I am replying to Windjammer here:
The title of the post is "The Last Air Battle on this Day". I pointed out that this is not the only air battle on Dec 17th, 2 additional dogfights took place where PAF's 2 Starfighters were shot down by Mig 21's.
And i proved to you that at least one of your claim was just a progressive propaganda by your government
Because I rained on your parade, you went on a tangent about the superiority of one aircraft to another. What does that have to do with the 'Last Air Battle'? Nothing, of course.
Since it was hard to digest, you digressed to the cheap banter, as you are the foot print of the beast you detest, let me shove it into your face, in 1965 war, the first encounter between two F-86 Sabers and four IAF Vampires resulted in all Indian aircraft going down in flames, after which the IAF withdrew all it's Vampires and Ouragans from service, such decisive encounters prove which aircraft or air force is worth it's salt and PAF despite all it's shortcomings in 1971, proved it's worth and repeatedly met the challenge with even the most vulnerable assets and excelled.
Hence our worse took out your best.
You churlishly argued that Changezi died on some other day. I proved you wrong. Then your reply is that you cannot read English(to that effect).
I emphasised that i read elsewhere to the effect that he was shot down earlier during the war, it's you who needs to absorb what you can't comprehend.
You claimed that the Starfighter is a much older jet compared to the Mig 21. I pointed out that both flew in '54 and '55 for the 1st time respectively. Again, egg on your face.
Take a gulp and swallow that Beetle juice since you are spurting it all over the forum, here is a quiz, why is MIG-21 still in active service all around the world, while the F-104 has adopted the role of a gate guardian. ??
You called me a word you couldn't even spell. Yet you turned out to be the noob since you tried lying about the ability about PAF F-104's to shoot guns. Sorry, caught you fibbing again there.
And you, who are supposed to be much senior, instead of being realistic for once could only find comfort by blaming the inferiority of the Russian missiles, i guess losers exist in every age group. Just proves your mental age.
You recommended others to read Lal's book. I asked you for the opening line. Instead you forward me some page numbers. So you have basically not even seen the book in your life! And yes, I know that you have been copy pasting the same page numbers in other discussions. So rather lame to try the same con, IMHO.
I guess others by now know what a real noob is since Lal's book is not the point debate but rather the contents that matter, but hey for you, any port in a storm. Right. !!!
DG asked you a couple of questions but instead you scanned some pages which did not answer them. You might as well scanned your 1st standard report card alongwith your class photo.
What, the reflection is too gruesome to accept. ?? Posting a genuine article has indeed proved tangent to your verbal diarrhea.
Let me also remind you about your BS claims about the RJAF jets being caught out.
Basically, the crap lodged in your upper crust is oozing from every hole in your sorry structure, as nowhere have you proved any valid point to this argument, so eat it.
How do you reply to my questions? With a dictionary in hand, typing out comments about call centers in India? Please tell us what this has to do with my points or me?
Belive me, it's never difficult to have fun with a drama queen, In fact, i reply with a little hindrance, considering you, self admittedly are near your shelf life, and again it was your sorry self who desired to be rather a call center nuisance than some greasy finger alien.
Restrict yourself to the post in question: The Last Air Battle. Am I wrong in saying that 2 Starfighters were lost on the same day? Other than replying to this question, all other matter is just irrelevant.
The post in question was, an F-86 shooting down a MIG-21, while one F-104 may have been shot down earlier in the day, but nothing like the two that your wild imagination perceives.
All in all, any intelligent person will tell you that you have looked like a escapee from the pediatric ward. If you doubt me , ask some of your countrymen who are highly respected by all members of this forum.
Since debenture has settled in your self centered mind, let me beat you with your stick once again, check the credibility of your posts and the acknowledgement given to mine.
Let me know what the first line of Lal's book is. Do NOT scan any other books or quote page numbers
The cage in the geriatric ward or rather in BR awaits you, since your BS revolves around only the book, let me give you a hint, the topic on hand is...... Last Air Battle On This Day.