Deck talking with you now to me it seems like as if i am having the same meal three times a day. So i will just pick points that would require a response and skip the remainder;
Is this how you correct someone by saying you are not clear. Xeric make up your mind. Either correct me or cut the crap...
They say never correct your enemy when he is making a mistake. You get the point, right?
With doctorines like CSD one cannot relax and think "well there cannot be full-fledge war" so lets modernize in contrast with economy.
^^ Well by saying this you unwillingly accepted that CSD is a failure indeed. If i understand the CSD correctly i can sum up that the entire CSD revolves around one 'assumption' and that would be; Pakistan's nuclear threshold would not be crossed during the execution of CSD. Now if that doesnt happen, there's no fun in playing CS
So there's nothing bad in working our various contingencies in relation CSD, but then showing sheer disrespect to CSD (by planning from the outset; 'what if a full fledged war/nukes exchange?') was not expected out the mighty CSD.
That is why you will find even an average Indian ready to convert LOC into borders. B/w since you are not able to take rest of the kashmir from us can i infer that Pak is nothing against India??? What kind of stupid argument is that???
So no more Kashmir is our Atoot Ang, NA of Pakistan are also part of J&K, AK and Siachen should also be included in Kashmir talks??
Though we all know that indians today are more than happy in maintaining the status quo but then it reminds me of an old story which goes like this;
'Back in the old days there was some shopkeeper who sold cloth. One day some other guy came to him to buy a complete bundle/roll of a particular expensive type of cloth and after having it selected lied to the owner that he had paid for the roll, which infact he hadnt. And argument followed and the case aggravated,thereon the matter was taken to the court. After an exhaustive debate the judge was unable to decide whom the roll actually belonged to as both the parties didnt have any witness. And it was then tha judge came up with an idea. He announced that as the real owner cannot be fully ascertained so he has decided that the roll should be divided into two halves and given to both the claimants. On the real owner was frustrated and showed concerns (as he was loosing half of his product for nothing) but the lair was quite happy (as he was gaining half of the roll with a mere lie). This display of emotion was picked by the judge and he then immediately ordered the liar to be jailed and the roll to be handed back to the real owner'
i am not sure if you enjoyed the tale but i am quite sure that you are getting the idea behind it
Off topic but that's the Kashmir issue and the status quo bee ess in short.
Now you are behaving really naive. If you believe all that then i cannot help. In fact being an adversary i will love you to belive it....
May be next time i should also quote links?
You are telling me that you have increased your defence budget by 30% to fight with TTP???? OK i believe you..lets cut the crap now....
And you didnt know it, right?
No wonder you were trying to fool others, boy.
War in whatever form should only be the last option.....We have given diplomacy a chance this time and may be in your false ego you are not able to see the damage that we have done to you but fact will not change...Also we have made it ample clear that any more such attack will mean war...now what part is not clear to you???
So you accept that amateur decisions were made by your hierarchy?
And as for the damages, well labeling us as a state sponsor of terrorism didnt work for you. You still couldnt prove that the attacks had Pakistani establishment's (military or civilian) hand in it. You got JuD banned, voila! You proved that the attacks had origins inside Pakistan, Bravo!, but still we it was not enough to get the world term as a terrorist state. We were not slapped with sanctions, nor did anybody asked us to 'stop playing a bada$$'. Yes, terrorist heavens, Pakistan needs to dismantle
its terrorist networks etc etc has been said quite often. But who doesnt know we have lawlessness in our Tribal Regions? And the West has not forgotten that they had a big hand in promoting Jihad there. So you see, it was not exactly a 'new' tag. We still didnt go inside N.Wazirstan and are still meeting the demands as we take out those guys who would/can hurt us while keeping the trump card with us
Pakistan was churning out better GDP growth than India in early years of her independence....It is sanctions and your love for Jihaad that did you...anyhow i am not trying to belittle pakistan here however this is one conflict that you cannot win, period. If last 63 years of struggle and yet no success cannot wake you then what can i do.....
We were churning better GDP in Musharraf's era also, but that's not the point. We may not overtake the indian growth, thats again is not the point. Whether we can carryon with the maintenance of a large military against india is the point of concern indeed. So if floods, earthquakes and WoT couldn't cut our defence budget, we can sustain the wishful likes of CSD. And oh yes, you already agreed that the 25-30% hike was for the war in the west.
As said before we can afford it, so yes Pakistan is nothing but a nuisance for us. Also i would appreciate if you can suggest how exactly what was a U turn...
So no more Akhund Bharat, Pakistan was torn out of us and we will take it back etc etc bee ess? i am glad we were able to 'convert' this mentality quite soon enough. Shouldnt we be celebrating this as a victory, just asking? You declaring Pakistan as a nuisance may it be because you dont want a war with Pakistan as it would hurt your growing economy or was it because you left Pakistan's destruction as a bad-job, for us that's an achievement.
however it is definitely causing lot of discomfort across the border...
Hello...start reading the post before making these imaginary accusations...How many times i have to say that official version is we deny CSD but all the recent acquisitions and planned one's suggests that it is very much a doctorine. As far as my personal stand i have clearly said that official denial was only diplomacy...It is very much there and work is going on...
^^^ You are still confused.
Now will Pak be able to cope with it, only time will tell...My point for the 100th time, CSD will put lot of strain on your budget...
Also allow me to complete my century, my 100th point that you people dont know a tosh about how CSD has affected Pakistan (even if it had affected us at the first place). Now please dont act Gubbi and post rupeenews
You will end up defaulting if they pull out...
We didnt till now despite of the earthquake, floods, CSD, Limited and Two Front Wars, more earthquakes and WoT, i dont what more evil would that be which would finally give your dream a reality.
If you still have not realized the long term strategic relations between India and US then you better should stop calling yourself think tank..
The relationship between the US and india is not a rocket science, containment of China, a huge market for the US, more jobs and stuff and a few others. But then you miss the fact that the US wouldnt be creating a drastic imbalance in our part of the world. Atleast not till the time it is stuck up in Afg. Some other facts like the geo-strategic location of Pakistan, Pakistan sharing land borders with the most rogue country in the world, Pakistan providing an outlet to CARs' oil, Pakistan's relations with China etc etc are a few points that may require some pondering on your behalf. An appetizer:
Obama's support to India's UNSC bid not at Pak expense: US - The Times of India
What imbalance??? Are you assuming here??? Where was this imbalance worries when you were under sanctions??? They did it after 65 when we were getting armed by Russia and they did not bother. ...........................................................one chose to ignore writing on the wall then i am sorry, cannot help.....Please don't put too much hope on this impabalance thingi....You have paid in the past and there is high probablity you will end up paying even more dearly....
i'll again relate this with what i usually say. Let's talk tangibles, we'll see when india gets the perm seat in the SC. As for the nuclear deal, well what happened when China came in to fill in void thus created? And i hope you know that in case of the nuclear deal between the US and india Pakistan was compensated via aid and weaponry which india so much wants not to be used against her. Moreover what you quoted cannot be termed as imbalances exactly, a drastic imbal would be india getting seat in SC, US accepting Kashmir as india's integral part, the US asking Pakistan directly to stop 'exporting terrorism inside india', the US NOT conveying Pakistan's concerns (as it did in case of CSD) to india etc etc.
Sorry i will always pray that time don't come...However you can always join the jihadi pigs and try your hands....
Why should i join the skunk$ if i can do the same proudly in Siachen, Kashmir and Tribal Areas?
Do you think Pakistan will budge against US pressure and will not retaliate??? Now if you with so much dependency on them will not stop then what made you think India will???
The question will die its own death, rather this question would not even arise. The more pertinent question would be; would india even go for a preemptive strike against Pakistan, would the US allow it to happen? You may feel free to think otherwise, but shaking the the entire spectrum that too when the US is active in Afg, i dont think so.
another mumbai and New Delhi will be compelled to react...Have no confusion about it...
This tactics has already failed twice. Man, you people need to think another way to excuse an attack against Pakistan.
I know this that another terror attack on India and your desire to meet us before you shed away Khakhi will come true...
i dont agree. What i believe is that i would remain in Khaki but your guys would not be in olive drabs rather i would have to face them in shalwar kameez hiding somewhere deep in Khost.