Kashmir | News & Discussions.

[advaita]

So you're saying you guys are enslaving and illegal ruling over Kashmiris as part of a child's tantrum?

We weren't yours to begin with in 1947, the Kashmiris aren't yours now. Countries aren't made by putting a gun to their temples and make them follow you. They have to want to be Indians. The people who left you didn't want to be Indians. The people who are going to leave you also don't want to be Indians.

Let the lands that don't want to be Indians leave.

I want to prevent partition of my country. How is that childish tantrum.
About you not being our to begin with. Yes dead right, that is why pakistan is for muslims who dont want to be with India. So again take them pls.

 

[Spring Onion]

Respected lady kindly inko le jayiye.

Your above statment to take Kashmiris to Pakistan exposes the real Indian mentality that is always at work. On one hand the Indians trying to sell the fake notion that Kashmiris are Indians but on the other hand when they shout and resist the Indian brutalities you Indians come up with the demand "inko le jayiye"


Mr advaita ap apni ghasib fauj ko le jayae.

The land belongs to Kashmiris and they are going to stay there. Its Indian army that should go away.

 

[SSGPA1]

See large minorities in non-kashmiri muslims too, love you and when we ask them if they would like to go over still they refuse. Then what do we do. Obviously India cannot be partitioned again, even if the whole world wishes to.

First of all India didn't concede crap. Kashmir is not part of India so there is no question of conceding anything.

There was no united India ever rather a combination of princely states and land occupied by the British. Before that, Moghuls were rulers of Hindustan along with alliance from many states.

Pakistan got its independence from British Raj and so did India.

In 1947, majority stayed where they were and only people moved who didn't wanted to live in India and Pakistan.

 

[advaita]

There is only ONE opinion that matters. Kashmiris... Kashmiris only!

Well in that case every child can sue his parent. Kashmiri opinion was taken in 47 and that was through the mode of partition. They didnt go, so their ancestors wanted to stay. Now there offsprings dont then also it is ok with Indians they can go join the land created for the muslims who dont want to stay with India.

 

[Spring Onion]

Kashmiri ancestor had already self determined. Obviously self determination cannot be done with every generation. Otherwise let Baloch self determine. and Seraiki, and sindhi, and ...........

If they were on UN resoultions we would have so move on man. And hey do not add NWFP to your list otherwise you will get some real time hard hitting

Kashmir is altogather different.

 

[Spring Onion]

Well in that case every child can sue his parent. Kashmiri opinion was taken in 47 and that was through the mode of partition. They didnt go, so their ancestors wanted to stay. Now there offsprings dont then also it is ok with Indians they can go join the land created for the muslims who dont want to stay with India.

Kashmiri opinion was taken when Mr Gulab Singh sold them against a meager money ??

And if their opinion was taken in 1947 then why they are protesting till this day against Bharat???

 

[Awesome]

Well in that case every child can sue his parent. Kashmiri opinion was taken in 47 and that was through the mode of partition. They didnt go, so their ancestors wanted to stay. Now there offsprings dont then also it is ok with Indians they can go join the land created for the muslims who dont want to stay with India.

Kashmiris are not children and you're not their parents, they are not seeking emancipation from their parents but freedom from their hostage takers.

They want freedom, they're freaking hoisting the flags of your enemies and burning down your own.

This is the only way. From all that you're saying its clear, deep down you know, the Kashmiris really really hate you. It's only greed that keeps India binded to the land of the Kashmiris.

 

[SSGPA1]

Kashmiri ancestor had already self determined. Obviously self determination cannot be done with every generation. Otherwise let Baloch self determine. and Seraiki, and sindhi, and ...........

Patel and others forced Raja to join India by sending the army.

Think about Sikhs, Muslims, Tamils, Assamis, West Bengal and many others before talking about Pakistan.

A poll was conduct this week and majority of Pakistanis think as Pakistanis first and then about their ethnicity. I knew that and this poll was conducted for you

Good thing is that India is not governed by people with your mentallity otherwise India would have been divided into 50 pcs by now (per the Chinese plan)

 

[advaita]

First of all India didn't concede crap. Kashmir is not part of India so there is no question of conceding anything.

There was no united India ever rather a combination of princely states and land occupied by the British. Before that, Moghuls were rulers of Hindustan along with alliance from many states.

Pls see history, Indians were there even in Pakistan, Hindus and Buddhists to boot, your ancestors perhaps. Still we are not claiming any area of Pakistan for the very simple reason that the partition was under an arrangement and howsoever bitter for us we are dutybound to respect it. We will try our level best to ensure it that even you are held accountable for it.

Pakistan got its independence from British Raj and so did India.

No contest.

In 1947, majority stayed where they were and only people moved who didn't wanted to live in India and Pakistan.

My point exactly, partition is done and over with. If anyone still not done with he can move out.

 

[Omar1984]

Kashmiris have much more in common with Pakistanis than with Indians and this is a fact.

In Pakistan, Kashmiris are one of the most patriotic Pakistanis. Khwajas and Bhats are famous Kashmiri surnames and they are very influential in Pakistan.

Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif are also Kashmiris and are loved by entire Pakistan especially Punjab province of Pakistan (the most populated province).

Now you tell me are Kashmiris Pakistanis or Indians.

 

[Spring Onion]

Kashmiris are not children and you're not their parents, they are not seeking emancipation from their parents but freedom from their hostage takers.

They want freedom, they're freaking hoisting the flags of your enemies and burning down your own.

This is the only way. From all that you're saying its clear, deep down you know, the Kashmiris really really hate you. It's only greed that keeps India binded to the land of the Kashmiris.

They even do not like Indians even if they are Indian Muslims because Kashmiris are different people and they are a separate state not part of India.

 

[Awesome]

Kashmiris have much more in common with Pakistanis than with Indians and this is a fact.

In Pakistan, Kashmiris are one of the most patriotic Pakistanis. Khwajas and Bhats are famous Kashmiri surnames and they are very influential in Pakistan.

Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif are also Kashmiris and are loved by entire Pakistan especially Punjab province of Pakistan (the most populated province).

Now you tell me are Kashmiris Pakistanis or Indians.

Exactly in Pakistan Kashmiris have been elected Prime Minister! They are tightly integrated within our society, especially Punjab. In Pakistan they are a stronger group than what Jews are to America.

So Pakistan's stance is clear. Support Kashmiris. Kashmiris stance is clear, kick out Indians out of their land. India's stance is hold on till the very end because its an ego issue?

That's such a crappy reason when you think about it. Such a bad one.

 

[Hyde]

and guess what? Indians still claim Kashmir is part of India

Kashmiri's never accepted themselves as an Indians or else there was no war at all in Held Kashmir. The only reason we hear news about murder, rape and strikes is because despite the 62 years of independance they still want to join Pakistan because we not just share the common interests, language, culture but also a religion

 

[Khajur]

Well I don't support that and don't care. That IS India, that is an independence movement. Kashmir is an Expunge illegal occupiers movement. Kashmir was never ever a part of India. Assam is.

I think the Assamese just wanted to piss off the Indians so they put up the Pak flag, it should be really disturbing for Indians especially since thats a whole different level of hatred... we really should not read more into that.

Oh no no...why leave Assam??

Assam is fair game too.

Afterall Jana and wise mentor in red cap would love to hear Radio Pakistan being broadcasted from New Deheli.

 

[SSGPA1]

Pls see history, Indians were there even in Pakistan, Hindus and Buddhists to boot, your ancestors perhaps. Still we are not claiming any area of Pakistan for the very simple reason that the partition was under an arrangement and howsoever bitter for us we are dutybound to respect it. We will try our level best to ensure it that even you are held accountable for it.

My point exactly, partition is done and over with. If anyone still not done with he can move out.

It is late in India so you should get some sleep because now you are calling all Hindus Indians and I tell you what my Hindu friend from Pakistan didn't get married for a while because he couldn't find a suitable Hindu Pakistani girl in the USA. This all happened while there is a load of Hindu Indian population in the US.

Partition was never complete because Kashmiris never got th right to self determine.