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Kadhafi calls for jihad against Switzerland over minaret ban

Sure he is an indian got migrated to Swiss after 9/11.
India has profited most from anti Muslim media drive in Europe. I hope this world knows hindus are the most fantic people on the earth.

@ Hussein: Minarate ban is nothing more than a retaliation to Gadafi's act of withdrawing his money from Swiss banks.

You live in Pakistan???????? what do you know about Hindus......
To Bash India you Abuse Hindus???..There are bad people,religious Fanatics every where???????? But India their percentage is much ,much below than your country.
I am a Keralite Christian (south Indian State)
I have worked in Entire India... from Bhopal to Jammu never ever felt that Hindus are Fanatic.......

Indian Muslim Population is much more that of Pakistan ( 2nd after Indonesia)
India is Diverse
So please dont Post such Things.
Dont throw stone at others sitting inside GLASS HOUSE.
God bless you
 
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Though i dont agree with gadafi but swiss govt. should change its policy as itr is against basic human rights and come out of the islamophobia tht its scared of.
 
he need to go mental hospital first .i really never see some sick brainless and totaly stupid like qadafi in such big post in my whole life.he call him self king of kings my AS$
 
How many muslims you have in Switzerland?
How many fanatics amond them?
Why to be scared of another culture and believe you would loose yours? the globalization is changed the culture of every country, are you scared of this?

First show me one liberal Muslim country (Turkey is not constitutionally Islamic) that allows public celebration of non-Muslim religious events without any fear or worry in any part of their country and then talk. In Switzerland, Muslims can worship, celebrate and observe their religious tenets.

I understand about burqa and minaret laws
but i don't understand why in your country you let the hatred to be shown against muslims. people who show so much anti Islam faith they are not better than nazis, they show a particular part of society .
I can see here as well, the "nationalist partis" (fun that they gave the country to Germany but they call themselves nationalists) they say Islam is this Islam is that. They always repeat this stupid word about our prophet being pedophilia and that Islam is jihad without understand anything about the meaning of jihad
when i try to explain , i am insulted. for them they have all the truth about Islam.

That is the opinion of certain parties and has nothing to do with what Swiss laws are made for. Swiss laws are specifically meant for retaining our culture. If we were not comfortable with globalization, we won't have allowed any other faith but Christianity in our country. But you see me and many other non-Christian proud Swiss citizens.

I worry that Europe is becoming crazy again :(

but anyway i condemn the Khadafi words
this guy is really sick. he doesn'"t know anything about Islam as whown in his message.
Ok let him make a personal fight with a swiss guard in vatican and let's see who'll win tc

Europe is any day saner than what is there in Middle East and Southern Asia so don't worry about our sanity. And thanks that you feel Mr. Gaddafi is an idiot... very few people here would agree with this.
 
Sure he is an indian got migrated to Swiss after 9/11.
India has profited most from anti Muslim media drive in Europe. I hope this world knows hindus are the most fantic people on the earth.

Get a life buddy.. you lot are OBSESSED with India AND you hate Hindus. Now we know who is the fanatic here. I am a Hindu and proud to be one for I am a follower of the world's oldest faith that guide me to be the best person I can be. Your religious short-sightedness and refusal to accept Western Hindus disgusts me. If you think that we Western Hindus are not possible then even you as Pakistani Muslims are a lie in the name of existence since only Arabs are Muslims.

Because of your obsession with India and intolerance of non-Muslims, you consider everyone that doesn't agree with you an Indian. I care least what is happening in India and what their government does to their people for all that matters.

Do you know the Swiss laws of immigration? You just don't migrate here and become a citizen with the drop of a hat and continue supporting radical militant organizations worldwide unlike Britain whose situation is open to the entire European continent. You need to comply with a whole host of laws to obtain Swiss citizenship, which still will be tested out of you.

I am BORN a Swiss; I have proudly studied Swiss curriculum and am proud to have completed my conscription service with Schweizer Armee (Swiss Armed Forces) for three years as is required by the national law of my country and am proud to be a reserve.

@ Hussein: Minarate ban is nothing more than a retaliation to Gadafi's act of withdrawing his money from Swiss banks.

You take everything with the view of vengeance eh? Sorry to burst your bubble but Switzerland doesn't care a fly rats as to what Gaddafi does or doesn't do. His money is taken out; many others will put in their money. You talk as if its a big deal.
 
Though i dont agree with gadafi but swiss govt. should change its policy as itr is against basic human rights and come out of the islamophobia tht its scared of.
Keep talking whatever nonsense you want to: Islamophobia and what not, but Swiss laws are here as FEDERAL laws, not like that religious law you have imposing your faith's dominance over others in Islamic countries. I being non-Christian am treated with equal respect as any Swiss Christian would be. Infact, even most Muslims here are fine with the laws and are liberal minded except for a few fanatics who want to see Switzerland turned into another Arabia.

If we wanted to get rid of Human Rights, even I won't be allowed to practice my faith. Don't talk like an ignorant.
 
I'm neutral on this topic of Minaret..swiss banned Minaret but not Building Masjids atleast for now!
Another important thing we should think about..i think this picture of Masjid-Aqsa will clarify: Do you see minaret?

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I'm neutral on this topic of Minaret..swiss banned Minaret but not Building Masjids atleast for now!
Another important thing we should think about..i think this picture of Masjid-Aqsa will clarify: Do you see minaret?

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this is not Masjid-e-Aqsa........ this is Baitul Muqaddas (The Dome of the Rock)

and there is no concept of Minarets in Islam as i said before....... whether you make mirates or not....... it doesn't really matter
 
Zaki it is called Masjid Al Aqsa...Exactly Zaki regarding minaret excellent point..the focus should be Nimaz Prayers to Allah not the design...End of days prophecy fulfilled people are more interested in design than gathering for Prayers..
 
Zaki it is called Masjid Al Aqsa...Exactly Zaki regarding minaret excellent point..the focus should be Nimaz Prayers to Allah not the design...End of days prophecy fulfilled people are more interested in design than gathering for Prayers..

that is Bait-ul-Muqaddas yaar also known as The dome of the rock in english

Masjid Aqsa is:

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Both mosques are in the same place but differ both Mosques yaar

look at this picture

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and recognize both mosques from this picture

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i think this is a bigger version of the above picture

 
zaki is right golden one is made by sahudeen ayubi its not old kaba bulding is rockin one.
 
If you wish to be considered a civilized country, then you have to provide certain freedoms to your citizens. Certainly, Switzerland is a sovereign country and can enact "whites only" laws, but don't expect to be treated like a civilized country if you do so.

Hark! Look who's talking! Switzerland has hundred times better freedom and safety for minorities as compared to what Pakistan has. Did someone talk about being civilized? Didn't expect that from a country that has a track record for un-recorded religious persecutions.

Religious discrimination is a medieval mentality. The Swiss have demonstrated their bigotry and medieval mindset for the whole world to see.

And Pakistan is a very secular country where minorities grow by leaps and bounds, taking highest government positions in Daniel Streich is still a respected Swiss politician here despite initial uproar of him converting to Islam. Name me any minority in your country of a ministerial level.

The minaret ban is not an isolated incident. A Swiss girl was banned from playing basketball with her scarf. Such a ban is not imposed by any other basketball authorities, only the Swiss.

And does Pakistan and any Islamic country allow limited clothing of women around in the streets? Does for example Pakistan grant the freedom for women to be walking around in skimpy clothing if they want to? Do you allow them to wear revealing clothes if they want to show off themselves? The answer is no. Most of the time, the girl would become a target of some sick honor killing or ostracized by your society as if she murders someone.

Head-scarves, veils, minarets are not Swiss culture and we cannot allow this. First teach your country to be liberal about others and then talk.


Once again, if the laws violate basic human rights, then they will and should be challenged. Switzerland cannot enact laws restricing freedom of movement for black people, and then tell them to go home if they don't like it. I would be very surprised if this medieval Swiss law is not censored by the European Commission on Human Rights.

Since when did "race and black people" come in the middle? I thought we were talking about religion. I think it is our internal matter and we don't need to be guided with a country with its own world record in human rights and freedom of minorities. Even if we impose maximum restrictions on certain people, they would be 50 times freer in Switzerland than any day in your country.

Switzerland does not exist on a separate planet. If they want to co-exist as a civilized member of this world, they have to learn to behave themselves and hold their bigotry in check.

Don't worry, we acknowledge where we live and the world seems to have no problem with us except for Pakistanis on this forum. Our fellow Europeans love us and respect our country and we are having an excellent relationship with the entire world.

Even the Arabs and Turks haven't told us what to do about this minaret issue except a few comments but Pakistan of all the countries comes telling us what should be done. Stop being a global religious police and first handle your country.

All the Muslims are asking is the freedom to practise their religion and be treated like first class citizens. By targetting Islam specifically, the Swiss have focussed their discrimination onto a particular religion -- just because it happens to be politically acceptable these days.

Stop blowing things out of proportion, man. Those who are Swiss citizens need to behave like Swiss citizens and not Arabs first. The Muslims here are having tons of times better life than you have in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran. Come here and ask them yourself whether they would want to return to their home country or stay here in Switzerland. You'll be shocked at the reply.

Your argument would be more credible if the Swiss law forbade construction of all non-Christian religious buildings. It would still be bad, but it would better hide the Swiss' bigotry.

You are entitled to make your allegations rightfully when just one of your Islamic countries give even one tenth the freedom and liberty Switzerland gives all her citizens irrespective of religion.

Because they are not Pakistanis; they are Swiss residents and are entitled to freedom of religion in their place of residence.

Then don't be a religious police around the world. They are people who become our citizens knowing our laws well and our constitution at their own risk. If they don't want to, they will decide. Pakistanis don't have the right to do so. Switzerland has a track record of religious freedom that you won't be able to attain in your country for the next century. Come here and see for yourself.

India was recently placed on the list of countries with terrible religious persecution. Thought you'd like to know.

Why the hell should I care what India has to do? I am aware that they aren't really open with religion either but it is their country and their laws, What the hell do I have to do with them? is it because I am a Hindu?

Just FYI I am Swiss born and not an Indian immigrant. Just google Western Hindus and you'll get what I mean.

I never claimed anything about your religion. I don't give a r-a-t's a-s-s whether you believe in Hinduism or Shamanism. At issue is your bias as evidenced by your posts.

Are you sure? Check your post again or get your eye tested, buddy.

Your self-righteous tantrum notwithstanding, the whole point of my statement linking you to India was to highlight your pro-India bias, which is amply evident from your posts in this forum. There is nothing wrong with having such a bias. I have a pro-Pakistan bias. It's simply a matter of admitting it.

Now that you have admitted your Indian connection, you have proved my point.

I seriously cannot help you if you are obsessed with Indians. There are many points that Indians have stated rationally and I just happened to agree with them, just as I do with numerous Pakistanis. Please see how many Pakistanis I have thanked for their valuable comments that add to knowledge and contribute positively to this forum rather than the usual religious obsession that some people conduct here and are not expelled.

By ethnicity, you are an Indian since your nation was born out of the then India. How much do you know about your former motherland? Have you ever been there? Answer me these questions. I know India as much as any Swiss would do and a little better since I go there on religious pilgrimages and diplomatic work from United Nations. Visiting the place as a tourist/ delegate and staying there marks a very big difference between the two situations.

Just because I am racially part Indian doesn't mean I have to naturally align myself to New Delhi. You don't see me crying my eyes out for India's domestic issues that are sometimes discussed on this forum.

Anyway, please get your Indophilia checked. You are seriously obsessed with Indians.
 
Parashurm aka Sixth Avatar of Vishnu......... stop this nonsense please

Keep this switz ideology with you.... you are in Pakistani forum, you are most welcome to express your opinion too....... but i believe it is the internal matter of us Muslims (no matter whether they belong to Pakistan, India or wherever) so better stay away from this thread :angry: i heard enough of your nonsense and can't take it anymore...... i would rather avoid you than replying and showing the real face of you (that is Indian for sure)

better discuss in other topics than telling us what Switzerland can do and what they cannot do
 

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