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Kadhafi calls for jihad against Switzerland over minaret ban

You have to forgive Devalapro Parashuram..for him all who hates Pakistan are Indians and all who supports Indians are also Indians :lol: His previous target was Unity ..He converted that poor Afgan guy to Indian nationality ;)
 
Para jan,

I am interested to know, but what is the meaning of 'jan' at the end of a name? I know it singularly means 'life' , but not in contextual terms.

What do you think about minaret being forbidden in your country?
What opinion do you have towards Islam practice in Switzerland?

I believe that Islam is just another faith on this planet as there are numerous faiths around the world and has equal right to exist just as other faiths have a right to exist within their spheres. The minaret ban in my country is not because we are ruthless Nazis but because it is against the Swiss culture of construction.

Please check out the Swiss architecture culture on Google Images to see for yourself. Islamic minarets are of middle eastern origin and have nothing to do with my country and therefore the Parliament here has ratified the ban. All faiths here follow the national law dedicatedly.

It is the Muslim immigrants in this case who are imposing their religious influence on our country and are misusing our freedoms which is not good and will not be taken for granted. Swiss laws permit full freedom of worship and doesn't impose restriction on a personal basis. But this doesn't mean we bend the national laws according to migrants who don't belong to Switzerland and it is at their own wish they have decided to come here; we didn't call them here and impose restrictions on them.

Are the people of your country scared of invasion of muslims?

We aren't suffering from needless xenophobia, friend. But we are seeing the condition of United Kingdom and how many Muslim influences have come up in the country and bending their culture. We don't want that because Switzerland is not an Islamic country, neither having any intention to become one. We are proud of our culture and don't want to change it, since in Switzerland, religions are considered something very personal and not to be taken outside the places of worship or house.

On the streets, every Swiss is equal irrespective of religion and those who don't do this are spoiling the communal harmony and defying national laws.
 
You have to forgive Devalapro Parashuram..for him all who hates Pakistan are Indians and all who supports Indians are also Indians :lol: His previous target was Unity ..He converted that poor Afgan guy to Indian nationality ;)
I don't hate any nationality and Pakistan is just as much a country as every other country is. But I don't understand the mentality of some Pakistani members here who start policing around the policies and internal matters of other countries without any reason and then bring religion as an excuse to fight it off, finally blaming others as anti-Islamic.

This is very unprofessional and undermines the reputation of this forum
 
Qadafi has no credibility - he should just sell his oil and retire - I mean really he is most ecentric of so called leader/dictators left in world

But in all honesty - I see no harm in having Minarets in City , its just a building if someone is against it that shows intolorence to other faith which is wrong

I think US is pretty good in term of balanced outlook ...in this sense you can find churches/mosques/synagogs/Mandirs and all are protected by law
 
Daniel Streich Embraces Islam: Swiss Politician Bans Minarets then Converts to Islam

gaddafi would do well to consult the Swiss politician Daniel Streich on the matter
LOL... political stunt buddy. Politicians and religion don't really go along well and you should know that well enough. His conversion even if true doesn't make a difference to us as long as he is a follower of Swiss national laws carefully.

Are you trying to prove that Switzerland hates other religions?
 
LOL... political stunt buddy. Politicians and religion don't really go along well and you should know that well enough. His conversion even if true doesn't make a difference to us as long as he is a follower of Swiss national laws carefully.

Are you trying to prove that Switzerland hates other religions?

i'm not trying to prove anything,butwhat do you mean by " as long as he is a follower of Swiss national laws carefully "
are you implying that he might end up living of state benefits ,opening a kebaab shop or slipping on a sucide vest ???,,,,the man is more swizz than you will ever be.
 
Relations between Libya and Switzerland have been strained since July 2008 when Kadhafi's son Hannibal and his wife were arrested and briefly held in Geneva after two domestic workers complained he had mistreated them.

if above is true explains gadafis jihadi cause lol!
 
i'm not trying to prove anything,butwhat do you mean by " as long as he is a follower of Swiss national laws carefully "
are you implying that he might end up living of state benefits ,opening a kebaab shop or slipping on a sucide vest ???,,,,the man is more swizz than you will ever be.
Of course the man is Swiss.. but not more than me. A Swiss is defined by his adherence to Swiss culture and way of life, knowledge and pride of his country. Switzerland consists of a blend of local, German, French and Italian cultures that further beautifies our country's unique identity. I haven't said anything wrong about Daniel. I believe I qualify these requirement equally well as he does. Oh and don't go on race because my brother-in-law is an ethnic Swiss.

I certainly don't expect him to don a suicide vest if he is a good person indeed. And please stop worrying over him... he is a fellow and equal citizen of my country and you are no one to speak for him. Stop being over-defensive about religion. Devoutness is good but not obsession as is prevalent here. The simple fact is that Switzerland isn't like Britain's Socialist-Liberalist government that allows its culture to be bent backwards by dominance of an immigrant diaspora.
 
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if above is true explains gadafis jihadi cause lol!
Yup, the fool seems to be taking out personal excuses for waging a "holy" war against us. He doesn't remember that Switzerland is not his father's backyard to misbehave with our citizens. I am personally very happy that We have strained ties with such losers as the Libyan government who cannot distinguish between a personal issue and a national concern.

I wonder how such idiots end up becoming national leaders on the false identity of 'defenders of religion'. It is not like his fanaticism is not known.
 
I am interested to know, but what is the meaning of 'jan' at the end of a name? I know it singularly means 'life' , but not in contextual terms.
Sorry i miss my language sometimes
jan means "dear"
and if you put janam it means that you are very dear (a very good friend or family member)

It is the Muslim immigrants in this case who are imposing their religious influence on our country and are misusing our freedoms which is not good and will not be taken for granted.
I understand about Minarets it is architectural
But it is a part of many words used by the parti who was puting with minaret picture the burqa and as well saying bad words about Islam
this is more about why a fascist parti was behind this
and that they say more than minaret problem

We don't want that because Switzerland is not an Islamic country, neither having any intention to become one. We are proud of our culture and don't want to change it, since in Switzerland, religions are considered something very personal and not to be taken outside the places of worship or house.

On the streets, every Swiss is equal irrespective of religion and those who don't do this are spoiling the communal harmony and defying national laws.
How many muslims you have in Switzerland?
How many fanatics amond them?
Why to be scared of another culture and believe you would loose yours? the globalization is changed the culture of every country, are you scared of this?

I understand about burqa and minaret laws
but i don't understand why in your country you let the hatred to be shown against muslims. people who show so much anti Islam faith they are not better than nazis, they show a particular part of society .
I can see here as well, the "nationalist partis" (fun that they gave the country to Germany but they call themselves nationalists) they say Islam is this Islam is that. They always repeat this stupid word about our prophet being pedophilia and that Islam is jihad without understand anything about the meaning of jihad
when i try to explain , i am insulted. for them they have all the truth about Islam.
I worry that Europe is becoming crazy again :(

but anyway i condemn the Khadafi words
this guy is really sick. he doesn'"t know anything about Islam as whown in his message.
Ok let him make a personal fight with a swiss guard in vatican and let's see who'll win ;)
tc
 
Parashuram1 are you Swiss national? Are you of Indian orign?

Sure he is an indian got migrated to Swiss after 9/11.
India has profited most from anti Muslim media drive in Europe. I hope this world knows hindus are the most fantic people on the earth.

@ Hussein: Minarate ban is nothing more than a retaliation to Gadafi's act of withdrawing his money from Swiss banks.
 
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@ Hussein: Minarate ban is nothing more than a retaliation to Gadafi's act of withdrawing his money from Swiss banks.
France was attacking French rich people who were hiding salaries and putting this hidden money in Swiss accounts. They asked for informations and some rumor say they got information by stealing it.

Anyway since this time strangely Switzerland having problems with French people. The same parti is saying the people from the French city of Annemasse are invading Switzerland.

Anyway seems Swiss banks attitude is walking on nerves of Europe countries.
 
"allowed" by who? If Saudi Arabia can have its way, why not Switzerland?

Because Saudi Arabia is recognized as medieval in its religious restrictions. If the Swiss want to descend to the level of the Saudis, then so be it.

And who are you to dictate Swiss national laws?

If you wish to be considered a civilized country, then you have to provide certain freedoms to your citizens. Certainly, Switzerland is a sovereign country and can enact "whites only" laws, but don't expect to be treated like a civilized country if you do so.

Religious discrimination is a medieval mentality. The Swiss have demonstrated their bigotry and medieval mindset for the whole world to see.

The minaret ban is not an isolated incident. A Swiss girl was banned from playing basketball with her scarf. Such a ban is not imposed by any other basketball authorities, only the Swiss.

Switzerland is not Arabia and we cannot have Islamic influence in our country's architecture.

A minaret is a part of a building. It is your medieval bigotry which sees "Islamic invasion" around every corner. The fact that Europe is hiding their religous bigotry under the guise of secularism does not fool anybody.

I am a Hindu but you don't seem Swiss Hindus demanding towers for religious hymns as it is commonplace in Hindu countries in Asia. Infact, no faith here in Switzerland has a problem with our laws except certain sections of Muslims, who don't respect the culture of their adopted countries.

All the Muslims are asking is the freedom to practise their religion and be treated like first class citizens. By targetting Islam specifically, the Swiss have focussed their discrimination onto a particular religion -- just because it happens to be politically acceptable these days.

Your argument would be more credible if the Swiss law forbade construction of all non-Christian religious buildings. It would still be bad, but it would better hide the Swiss' bigotry.

They CHOSE to come here to Switzerland. They have to adopt to our laws. If they don't like, they can leave and go back to wherever they came from. Switzerland allows freedom of worshipping but not dominance over federal laws.

Once again, if the laws violate basic human rights, then they will and should be challenged. Switzerland cannot enact laws restricing freedom of movement for black people, and then tell them to go home if they don't like it. I would be very surprised if this medieval Swiss law is not censored by the European Commission on Human Rights.

Switzerland does not exist on a separate planet. If they want to co-exist as a civilized member of this world, they have to learn to behave themselves and hold their bigotry in check.

There are Swiss Jews and other faiths as well and they respectfully follow Swiss laws.

Because Switzerland has not enacted a law specifically targetting their religion and their community, restricting their freedom of religion.

If you are so sympathetic to these law-defying Muslims, why doesn't your country call them back?

Because they are not Pakistanis; they are Swiss residents and are entitled to freedom of religion in their place of residence.

And hark next time talk when your country shows love to minority citizens. Pakistan has one of the worst records of religious discrimination that goes unnoticed in your main media.

India was recently placed on the list of countries with terrible religious persecution. Thought you'd like to know. ;)

Yeah and you are a Saudi Arab in a South Asian disguise. I know it doesn't go into your heads but there are NON-INDIAN Hindus as well around the world, just as you are a non-Arab Muslim. And you are no one to dictate what faith I choose to adhere to irrespective of my nationality and race.

I never claimed anything about your religion. I don't give a r-a-t's a-s-s whether you believe in Hinduism or Shamanism. At issue is your bias as evidenced by your posts.

And yes, I am not hiding my identity unlike MOST so-called "ally nations of Pakistan" members here who seem to know more about Pakistan than their own countries. You want to know who I am, ask me. I am a Swiss-born national, proud of my country's achievements and capability. Our history has shown that we might be small but not weak.

My mother is an Iranian by origin and my father is of Indian-origin but both have been Swiss citizens. The only occasions I have been to India unofficially or out of work are for religious reasons.

Your self-righteous tantrum notwithstanding, the whole point of my statement linking you to India was to highlight your pro-India bias, which is amply evident from your posts in this forum. There is nothing wrong with having such a bias. I have a pro-Pakistan bias. It's simply a matter of admitting it.

Now that you have admitted your Indian connection, you have proved my point.
 
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