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Joint Chiefs Chair Mark Milley says 'potential for conflict' with China and Russia is 'increasing'

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Aircraft carrier is product of WW2. It will face same fate as tank is facing in modern war.
Aircraft carrier is slow, fully exposed target. Modern missiles are 1000 times deadlier than kamikaze planes

Usa is super power in the oceans but China is not far in numerical strength. Quality wise you can't beat USA.

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Americans are so amusing.
For years they went around saying the ocean is a big place and their carriers and ships can roam about and hide.

Then slowly it sunk into their heads China got lots of drones.


Like Divine Eagles


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According to Popular Science, China’s Divine Eagle UAV has a maximum altitude of 25km (or 79,000 feet).

In contrast, the US Global Hawk has a maximum altitude of only 18km (or 57,000 feet).


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And Chinese Soar Dragon XiangLong

ANOTHER BIG BIRD

The 7-10 ton Xianglong, or WZ-7, with some stealthy features, would make an ideal EW drone thanks to its huge size, and lone endurance. Its unique 20 meter joined tandem wings increase its range and on station time.



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China’s long endurance drone the Feilong-1 has recently completed a trial at an undisclosed high-altitude plateau. Photo: Weibo



China’s long-endurance Feilong-1 drone is ready for high-altitude missions

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WZ-8 drones are hypersonic and fly very high and see very very far.

The CH-6 unmanned aerial vehicle at the airshow in Zhuhai.


The CH-6 unmanned aerial vehicle at the airshow in Zhuhai.Source: VCG/Getty Images
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Katrina Nicholas

A high-altitude, long-endurance drone that can fly for around 20 hours and reach top speeds of 700 kilometers an hour (435 miles an hour) was one of the flying gadgets unveiled at Airshow China 2021 in the southern city of Zhuhai on Tuesday.
Developed by Aerospace CH UAV Co., the CH-6 drone is aimed at high-end arms use while its long flying range means it could be used for a variety of military and civilian missions.
It can also carry out anti-submarine missions, maritime patrols, early warning missions and close-range air support, China’s Global Times said.


China Successfully Tests Solar-Powered Drone Capable of Being Airborne for Months​


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A previous version test-flown in September managed to remain afloat for five hours, with the latest flight indicating months-long capabilities.​

BY MARCO MARGARITOFF NOVEMBER 4, 2018


China successfully tested its solar-powered Morning Star drone supposedly capable of being airborne for months at a time, according to Business Insider.
The Developer Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) had already test-flown the unmanned aerial vehicle in September, albeit with a smaller wingspan. This latest flight utilized a 66-foot (20-meter) wingspan version weighing 42 pounds (18.9kg) aimed to reflect the final model. The test flight saw the drone reach and maintain a cruising altitude of over 66,000 feet (20,000 meters).
“With the development and first flight, in addition to a great number of ground, wind tunnel and scale model tests…a solid foundation has been laid for follow-up development,” said AVIC. “We will move quickly towards large-scale, heavy load and long endurance solar-powered UAVs.”

And not to forget

Maritime Militia​

The Maritime Militia, the first line of defense, counts one-hundred eighty-thousand ocean-going fishing boats and four thousand merchant[7] freighters, some towing sonar detectors, crewed by a million experienced sailors transmitting detailed information around the clock on every warship afloat. Their intelligence goes to shore bases that fuse their reports with automated transmissions from Beidou satellites and forward the data to specialists operating ‘vessel management platforms,’ collating, formatting, and sending actionable information up the PLAN command chain.

And sonar buoys all withing Western Pacific ocean. Supposed to be listening to fishes, but can also hear clearly screws of ships turning away.

China got the most super computers of the world. And the supercomputers will be putting all those data to know every second what ships are heading and speed they at.

American now know for sure their carriers and ships are pin pointed and can run but cannot hide unless they hide in Frisco Bay or Hudson Bay.

And Americans know for sure that DF21s and DF26 can do what they supposed to do, hit moving ships.
The target ship was moving, and was a lot lot smaller than a 100,000 carrier. Which made the hit by DF21 and DF26 equivalent to a pin point hits on the apricot, or medulla oblongata. Like bullets from 2 separate snipers hitting the medulla oblongata simultaneously.

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Chinese Long-Range Ballistic Missiles Struck Moving Ship In South China Sea: Report

The test could represent the first full demonstration of a real Chinese long-range anti-ship ballistic missile capability.
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Chinese Long-Range Ballistic Missiles Struck Moving Ship In South China Sea: Report​

The test could represent the first full demonstration of a real Chinese long-range anti-ship ballistic missile capability.​

BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK NOVEMBER 16, 2020


At least some of the ballistic missiles that China's People's Liberation Army fired into the South China Sea during an exercise earlier this year, which you can read about more in the War Zone's initial story on those drills, reportedly hit a moving target ship. If true, this would be the country's first known demonstration of an actual long-range anti-ship ballistic missile capability, which could significantly change the operational calculus for any potential opponent, including the United States, in the disputed maritime region and elsewhere in the Pacific.
The South China Morning Post reported last week that Wang Xiangsui, a retired People's Liberation Army (PLA) officer, had said that one DF-26B intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) and one DF-21D medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) had struck the target vessel as it sailed near the Paracel Island chain during the August exercise. Wang, who has been described as "well-connected" in the past, is best known as one of the co-authors of the 1999 book Unrestricted Warfare, which covered various asymmetric means to undermine and defeat countries that were technologically superior to China. It has become a highly influential text, and general concept, in national security circles.


"We launched the DF-21 and DF-26, and the missiles hit a vessel sailing south of the Paracel Islands," Wang said during a closed-door gathering in China's eastern Zhejiang province in October, according to the South China Morning Post. “Shortly after that, an American military attaché in Geneva, [Switzerland] complained and said it would lead to severe consequences if the missiles hit an American aircraft carrier. They see this as a show of force. But we are doing this because of their provocation."

Wang does not appear to have given any details about the target ship, its construction, how fast it might have been moving, or how the PLA may have cued the missiles their target.
It remains unclear exactly how many missiles the PLA fired during the exercise on Aug. 26. South China Morning Post's initial report had indicated that two weapons had been launched, one DF-26B and one DF-21D, from sites in China's northwestern Qinghai province and in Zhejiang, respectively.


USA fanboys then come about foaming at the mouth that should their precious carriers be hit, they use nukes.

They think China got measly 200++ nukes.
Just like the 5000 km China underground GREAT WALL, contain only piddling 200++ nukes?
USA not realising China nukes are thermonuclear nukes and immediately usable as Chinese nukes are done to YuMing configuration.

USA must think why with only 200++ nukes, China can fire off 2000++ warheads express delivery via DF5 , DF31AG, DF-41 and JL2 and JL3 and much more.

Perhaps they think most of the warheads are delivering dim sum, sweet and sour chicken and tea bags.

Should USA fire just one nuke at China or chinese forces, all the USA bases in Japan and Okinawa and Singapore and Diego Garcia and in USA be turned into seas and lakes of multicolor glass.

None of USA carriers will be safe even if the USA carriers try to hide in Hudson Bay or Frisco Bay.

USA want to play stupid games with phony FONOPs.
USA will win stupid prize.

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It is up to ALL stakeholders. Not just the US imported government. Get your facts corrected.
No its your Pakistani government and military. They served their own interests, not the U.S. unless it benefits them, you seen it in during the war in Afghanistan. Can't trust the Pakistanis with information on Bin Laden so they raided the compound itself instead of letting the Pakistani government do it. Pakistan closing down logistics supply to Afghanistan in retaliation for the deaths of their troops by U.S. Apaches, etc.
 
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No its your Pakistani government and military. They served their own interests, not the U.S. unless it benefits them, you seen it in during the war in Afghanistan. Can't trust the Pakistanis with information on Bin Laden so they raided the compound itself instead of letting the Pakistani government do it. Pakistan closing down logistics supply to Afghanistan in retaliation for the deaths of their troops by U.S. Apaches, etc.

Hold this discussion in relevant topic. I know you are eager and angry to prove your point, but you got no point. Fact remains that your country is involved in yet another regime change
 
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Hold this discussion in relevant topic. I know you are eager and angry to prove your point, but you got no point. Fact remains that your country is involved in yet another regime change
Whatever, its just an excuse by the former PM not to be removed by blaming on U.S. Even the Pakistani military would have figure that out and not do anything but support the PM and keep him in power.
 
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Americans are so amusing.
For years they went around saying the ocean is a big place and their carriers and ships can roam about and hide.
Chinese are so amusing. For 300 yrs they were behind the Europeans then the Americans in military affairs, now with a few shiny toys they think they can take on a global military power that has unchallenged presence right on China's doorstep.
 
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We should, but we aren't. The armed forces have removed a sitting PM because he was critical of US meddling. That should tell you where our allegiance lies.
Yes and the army is wrong
 
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America is starting ww3.
How dumb

Well, according to the prophecy, they thought they are going to win.

But 99 of 100 participants are going to die.

There will be no war if both sides are not convinced by angels that they are going to win.

God wants this era to be ended as fast as possible.

The plan is all people in North America, Europe, Russia, China, Japan, and Australia will die.

And soon after the entire Muslims will be gone as well.

It's in the prophecy.
 
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The potential will hit infinity but amreeka will never make a pigs squeak in front of formidable powers that can shaft amreeka right in amreeka.

Sit tight and take it easy this potential will be just that a potential and nothing more.
 
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Chinese are so amusing. For 300 yrs they were behind the Europeans then the Americans in military affairs, now with a few shiny toys they think they can take on a global military power that has unchallenged presence right on China's doorstep.

I don't have much time for research but general question. The DF-41 the Chinese is that suppose to be stealth? If not I don't think it's a viable option to use on a carrier group.
 
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Against Russia? It will be air-air and the world now know the VKS is a nyet.

Against China? It will on the sea and we own the oceans.

Don't make us lauugh mate. You will find out very soon , what you are just intervene in Ukraine conflict directly. Why are you not doing it if VKS is nyet!!!
See how quickly the war engluf whole of Europe.
BS is cheap.
 
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Well, according to the prophecy, they thought they are going to win.

But 99 of 100 participants are going to die.

There will be no war if both sides are not convinced by angels that they are going to win.

God wants this era to be ended as fast as possible.

The plan is all people in North America, Europe, Russia, China, Japan, and Australia will die.

And soon after the entire Muslims will be gone as well.

It's in the prophecy.
Your prophecy
 
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