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Japanese warship arrives Vietnam

Nightmare as in the painful eardrum resulted from the crying. Let's really make this simple. Our oil rig is there, your move.

It's actually true , chinese oil rig is there.
But you know im not in either sides , but , its a very idiotic way for china to take every single island , and put a flag on it.
Like , imagine this , a island small as a classroom , then China puts a flag on it , and claims it..
Pretty dissapointed.
The oil rig is nor chinese nor vietnamese , the sea shares border with 3 countries , Phillipines , Vietnam and China.
Its totaly useless to start a fight if , China yet doesn't understand themselves. That the sea shares border. a
Well China is a pretty big country and Strong, but it is still a hungry territory country, it need's more lands, that's why.
 
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how exactly do we copy? Does America let us take a look? If we were just copying why did we scrap plans to build a 10,000 ton ship some 25 or so years ago.

America is embargoing us and Russian ships are no where near their quality.


At best, we know more or less what the American ships can do and what ours should be able to do, that's about it.


We put billions into research, you can even see it from the type 52 series, new technology each step of the way, if we just copied, why do we need to do that, why not just one time and perfect.


Your inferiority complex has blinded you, if you ever decide to look at things objectively, you would see, there is no way to copy, there are thousands of systems on a ship, it's not a doll that you can just look at the outside and copy. These things are so complicated, even the length of the hallways are an important part.

Hence Vietnam can't even build a 1000 ton corvette, while we can build a 12,000 ton DDG and a 10,000 coast guard ship, cause we poured hundreds of billions into research and decades of research.



That's interesting cause Russia doesn't have AEGIS. Nor is ours actually AEGIS. So Russians designed a missile for a system they don't have and used on a ship that also don't have the same system?

It's a missile not a windshield wiper, you can't just stick whatever you want on it. Too many things needs to be taken into account before it can be even considered.

Also even Americans don't go the copied route for our ships anymore. Since you like Uncle Sam so much perhaps you should follow suit.

Infact , its also true , China isn't copying toys and stuff. China is known as the WORLD'S FACTORY , its where almost all of the electronics things are build.
 
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Vietnam is only afraid of China purchased Sovremeny-class??
Actually you should be afraid of 056 class, 054 class, 052 class...
What Vietnam navy has is similar to old type of battleship that China is going to retire..
And Chinese new types of battleship are much stronger than Vietnam Navy...


What is your 12,000 ton DDG ?
Do you have any battlecruiser in the same level as Piotr Veliky 099 ?
Even American can't compete that ship ...

I think Russian never step on the track as American. They made the difference to counter-weight USA
Japan, Korea follow US track as they are parts of AEGIS system.

China simply follow the idea of US. Try your best to build good quality battle ships.
Name your really good battle ships not a soon-to-retire ones.

Taiwan even has better warships.

Actually, Vietnam is only afraid of China purchased Sovremeny-class

Let's see 20 years old nuclear-powered Pyotr Veliky 099 of Russia.
Wow to its armaments ... and radar systems
 
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Vietnam is only afraid of China purchased Sovremeny-class??
Actually you should be afraid of 056 class, 054 class, 052 class...
What Vietnam navy has is similar to old type of battleship that China is going to retire..
And Chinese new types of battleship are much stronger than Vietnam Navy...

Yes. We never fear 052D,
Vietnam adopt different tactic, so we would not build and deploy destroyers to combats with other nation destroyers.

And Yes, most of Chinese types are much modern and stronger than Vietnam Navy. We know.
 
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Vietnam is only afraid of China purchased Sovremeny-class??
Actually you should be afraid of 056 class, 054 class, 052 class...
What Vietnam navy has is similar to old type of battleship that China is going to retire..
And Chinese new types of battleship are much stronger than Vietnam Navy...

Right now, VN doesn't have any naval ship that can take on a 054 or 052. But they have the Su-30 armed with KH-59ME.

Right now, PLAN does not have any naval ships that can take on a Su-30 at its stand off range. Not even the 052D can shoot down a Su-30 at over 150km away.
 
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Right, so we should talk, we should do business, rather than go to war...


Yes. We never fear 052D,
Vietnam adopt different tactic, so we would not build and deploy destroyers to combats with other nation destroyers.

And Yes, most of Chinese types are much modern and stronger than Vietnam Navy. We know.
 
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150Km away, Su 30 can hardly attack a 052 war ship..
Su 30 may not be able to detect warship that far
If you use these anti ship missile, it need to fly high to search the target.
This make these big missiles a nice target for 052 series..
you need to know that 052 series is designed to deal with massive air attack...
Vietnam`s air force is too weak to attack these anti-air warships

Right now, VN doesn't have any naval ship that can take on a 054 or 052. But they have the Su-30 armed with KH-59ME.

Right now, PLAN does not have any naval ships that can take on a Su-30 at its stand off range. Not even the 052D can shoot down a Su-30 at over 150km away.
 
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It's actually true , chinese oil rig is there.
But you know im not in either sides , but , its a very idiotic way for china to take every single island , and put a flag on it.
Like , imagine this , a island small as a classroom , then China puts a flag on it , and claims it..
Pretty dissapointed.
The oil rig is nor chinese nor vietnamese , the sea shares border with 3 countries , Phillipines , Vietnam and China.
Its totaly useless to start a fight if , China yet doesn't understand themselves. That the sea shares border. a
Well China is a pretty big country and Strong, but it is still a hungry territory country, it need's more lands, that's why.

Please, according to some posters here, they would remain disappointed or outraged unless China grovel at their feet and bow to their every demand. Also, China has never published a single article threatening war, it is the other parties that keep insisting that ""they can fire a missile at it" and all.

BTW, you do realize this post is quite old and the oil rig has since moved to a new location after the initial exploration right?
 
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150Km away, Su 30 can hardly attack a 052 war ship..
Su 30 may not be able to detect warship that far
If you use these anti ship missile, it need to fly high to search the target.
This make these big missiles a nice target for 052 series..
you need to know that 052 series is designed to deal with massive air attack...
Vietnam`s air force is too weak to attack these anti-air warships

The KH-59ME has a range of 200km. The Su-30MK2 can detect a big ship like a 052D well over 200km away.

The HHQ-9 SAM on the 052D can only engage a fighter within 150km. It can only engage a AshM like the KH-59 within 70km.

This means the 052D can't do anything to the Su-30 and have to wait until the KH-59 comes within 70km before it can engage it.
 
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200KM is the max range fired from high attitude
The missile can hardly hit the modern anti-air warship..
a normal tactic is fly under horizon to 50-70Km to ship, fly high and shoot the missile..
Yet it is quite risky against modern anti-air ships like 052D..
If you shoot a missile 150Km away, it is very likely that it will not be able to find the ship

The KH-59ME has a range of 200km. The Su-30MK2 can detect a big ship like a 052D well over 200km away.

The HHQ-9 SAM on the 052D can only engage a fighter within 150km. It can only engage a AshM like the KH-59 within 70km.

This means the 052D can't do anything to the Su-30 and have to wait until the KH-59 comes within 70km before it can engage it.
 
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200KM is the max range fired from high attitude
The missile can hardly hit the modern anti-air warship..
a normal tactic is fly under horizon to 50-70Km to ship, fly high and shoot the missile..
Yet it is quite risky against modern anti-air ships like 052D..
If you shoot a missile 150Km away, it is very likely that it will not be able to find the ship

You only need that tactic if you really want a stealth attack or you are using a short range missile.

The Su-30MK2 + KH-59 dont need that tactic. Su-30 can give guidance to the missile from the safe stand off distance of >150km. When the KH-59 gets closer to the ship, it turns on its opto-electro sensor for pinpoint accuracy.

The 052D will need to intercept the KH-59 before this happen. It can intercept the missile but it can never intercept the Su-30. It can only intercept a Orion size plane from 150km-200km range, not a fighter.

Bottom line is, 052D still can't deal with a fighter. It still needs other fighters for aerial coverage from 150km range.
 
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You can bully smaller and weaker ASEAN countries,. But that would be a great mistake if you invade Japan's Senkaku Islands.
They will occupy your Nanking once again if you dare to invade their Senkaku.

LOL sure if they want Nagasaki and Hiroshima glowing in dark again,
What is your 12,000 ton DDG ?
Do you have any battlecruiser in the same level as Piotr Veliky 099 ?
Even American can't compete that ship ...

I think Russian never step on the track as American. They made the difference to counter-weight USA
Japan, Korea follow US track as they are parts of AEGIS system.

China simply follow the idea of US. Try your best to build good quality battle ships.
Name your really good battle ships not a soon-to-retire ones.

Taiwan even has better warships.

Actually, Vietnam is only afraid of China purchased Sovremeny-class

Let's see 20 years old nuclear-powered Pyotr Veliky 099 of Russia.
Wow to its armaments ... and radar systems

we don't need 12000ton DDG for Vietnam small weak Navy,
 
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Right now, VN doesn't have any naval ship that can take on a 054 or 052. But they have the Su-30 armed with KH-59ME.

Right now, PLAN does not have any naval ships that can take on a Su-30 at its stand off range. Not even the 052D can shoot down a Su-30 at over 150km away.

Yeah, any attack from a land based Su-30 will lead to retaliation against Vietnam mainland, and risks escalating to a land war, if that is what they want, we have no problem with that.
 
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Japanese Warship, JS Kunisaki arrives in Vietnam:

JMSDF personnel "posing" for picture in Vietnam,
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JMSDF Fleet Command Ship, the JS Kunisaki docked in Viet Nam.

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LCA from Kunisaki to Vietnam beach or island? Never heard. So it's surprise to me.
 
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