" It's India's right to have Permanent seat at UN Security Council " -PM Modi

[deckingraj]

Rupee word emerges neither from British nor from muslims.

In Sanskrit, Raupya/Rajana means silver. Rupee was the simplification of this term.

Learn some language history before trolling trash.

Now this is harsh ...why give face palm even if the person is a moron to begin with??

 

[mike2000 is back]

UNSC permanent membership was NOT meant to be a certificate of excellence that you hand it out to the most innovative in ALL FIELDS! If that was the case, China shouldn't have been there when they got there! Even as we speak, at least 2 (perhaps 3) of the 5 members are already hopelessly out of the league if you take economic clout/military might or population as a standard of measurement!



Its been 70 years since you won the War using the resources plundered from your former colonies! How long can you continue milking the system?

Just because a bunch of countries ended up on the winning side, doesn't give them a right to rule the vast majority of humanity which BTW, lives outside all those countries - bar China! In the last 70 years, UNSC has failed spectacularly to stop many of the conflicts in the ME and beyond - simply because this gang of 5 can't think beyond petty politics and agree on a common good of the people it was originally chartered to represent!

On Topic:
I think this system needs to go for the sake of everyone on this planet!

I think the rest of the countries that are not represented (India, Brazil, Japan, Germany et al) should start working towards undermining this "bullies club", in favor of a new system that favors representations from all corners of the world irrespective of their economic clout or whose membership doesn't depend on whether or not, you won some old war.



Yeah, right! None among the P5 have any territorial disputes with their neighbors.

I never said UN permanent membership should be based on importance or excellence etc I was just using Modi's own logic. He also justified it with India's peace keeping contribution to the UN , by this logic there are also several other countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh etc who should get a seat as well. He also said India is the most peace loving country and the country of (never mind that buddha came from nepal) and ghandi. Well I already talked about this on another thread, India being a peace loving Buddhist non aggressive saint country is laughable and meant only for the Naives/illiterates to accept. No big country is so called peace loving /non aggressive. If India really was one it won't have exploded a nuclear bomb and called it smiling Buddha. Lool it wouldn't have sponsored terrorist group LTTE in sri Lanka, it wouldn't have annexed Sikkim, it would have let go Kashmir and many disputed terroritories plus insurgents in its nortg east etc . I'm not blaming India for all the above though, since I know every country always does what is best for their interests, but find it funny when India or any other country tries to frame it as if its some saint country who has never done any harm. Lool in short no matter what points modi comes up with, there are dozens of other countries who meet those points and should be made permanent members as well. Therein lies the problem.

As for your last point, well its true that the P5 who were the victors have monopolised the UN high seat. But then again what do you expect? I said the world has never been fair and won't ever be. I'm sure if India had been part of the P5 it too will not want to let others in(especially its rivals) and dilute its influence. India is only whinning now because its not part of the 'bully club' as you called it. Lol fact of the matter is that India like other powers have to accept it the at it is, there's nothing much they can do, and just wish//hope one day the P5 might agree to let new members in. Crying and whinning while making ridiculous threats like forming a new group will only be met with contempt/laughter to be honest

 

[Tshering22]

It is Anglofication, not simplification. Vizag is a British name of Bharatiya city named Vishakapatnam(Britishers found it hard to pronounce it so they renamed whole city, and slavish rulers post 1947 accepted it).

Vishakhapatnam is still the term used in common discussions among Indians. Vizag is used only when there is no space to write somewhere.

Indians have habit of embracing the slavery by giving weak excuses. Similarly, Modi feels ashamed to call it "Make in Bharat", he calls it "Make in India".

Bharat and India are the official names of India. The world doesn't know Bharat; it knows India.

China and Japan are also not their traditional names if you didn't know.

China's real name is: Zhongguo (hope that's correct english written) meaning the 'middle kingdom'.

Japan's real name is: Nihon.

Indonesia also uses word Rupee, because they were also British colony. Its a British given word.

Indonesian armed forces to this date use Sanskrit as their military slogans. Indonesia's past and our past is a lot similar and culturally we have been linked through faith, habits and Sanskrit (modern Bahasa derives Sanskrit like most Indian languages).

FYI Indonesia was conquered by the Dutch. Rupiyah is their choice not the Dutch/English.

Rupee is used in the following countries in some or the other form:
- Mauritius
- Seychelles
- Maldives
- Sri Lanka
- Pakistan
- Nepal
- Indonesia

Simply because all of shared history and the British continued the use of what was already there in these lands.

Even today, Prayaag is known as "Allahabad". Modi refused to rename Ahmedabad to Karnavati-Nagar due to fear of muslims.

It is not Modi's job to rename it.

There are other things that are important to be done; like reviving the economy, scaling up the defence, military and technology.

Renaming will come from time to time.

As much as I dislike the islamic names of our many cities, it is something we will change in some time.

Don't feel ashamed to accept Hindus are mental slaves and mentally weak. They feel ashamed to project their true identity. They love calling Urdu indian culture, while the truth is, "Urdu" is Arabic version of Hindi, its not indian culture.

Recently, i have heard Arabic version of Rajasthan's song MALHAR. They renamed it "Miya malhar".

Slaves are always walked upon because they bend easily. Just like Native-American(Cherokee) culture vanished from mainstream and now exists only in museum, similarly Modi is promoting TAJ-MAHAL in Hannovar(Germany) and "Make in India", pushing native terms and culture into museum(just like his "Sanskrit day", days are made for someone who is dead).

I don't think they are cowards. They just tolerate barbaric cults and invaders a little too much.

As for your last point, well its true that the P5 who were the victors have monopolised the UN high seat. But then again what do you expect? I said the world has never been fair and won't ever be. I'm sure if India had been part of the P5 it too will not want to let others in(especially its rivals) and dilute its influence. India is only whinning now because its not part of the 'bully club' as you called it. Lol fact of the matter is that India like other powers have to accept it the at it is, there's nothing much they can do, and just wish//hope one day the P5 might agree to let new members in. Crying and whinning while making ridiculous threats like forming a new group will only be met with contempt/laughter to be honest

That's true every word of it.

But then again, that's what the G-4 grouping was formed. Brazil, Japan and Germany are as keen. In fact if you didn't know, we support candidature of countries from Africa and Latin America strongly as these are not represented in the UNSC at all.

 

[JaiShriAllahNath]

^^ you didn't disagree with any of my points. But added same old pacifist excuses like "this continues, but in future we will change it", "economy is more important right now"(as if renaming 5000 city names will halt economy), "it is not Modi's job". Also, ur history of Japan/china is wrong. China/Japan never accepted English the way India did. U just did a superficial comparison and tried to show "they are same as us". By the way, Arabization of languages is on rise in Indonesia. Many ancient temples are now being converted into mosques. You are misinformed on that one also.

You were also wrong on vishakapatnam. None of my friends from there call it "Vishakapatnam". They always call it "vizag". I think you have built around urself a wall of "all is well" and gone to sleep. This "carelessness"(a kind of psychological condition found in depressed colonized societies who refuse to stand up to injustice after a long period of genocide) is pretty praised/promoted/glamourized by islamic bolywood. For any Hindu issue, they say "keep silence". In next breath, they promote Arabized songs. Bollywood was very sanksritized in 1930s. Arabization started post 1971 Indo-pak war when USA aligned with Saudi-Arabia+Pakistan(1973 oil-$ agreement) and started pushing arabization. Vatican and Mecca work together when they are in India. They fight when they are outside India. you should know this.

Has anything changed? India is same old dead pacifist country. Same old excuses. Excuses are for slaves. Modi is also like you, postponing things instead of solving them fast and moving on.

 

[Dr Gupta]

^^ you didn't disagree with any of my points. But added same old pacifist excuses like "this continues, but in future we will change it", "economy is more important right now", "it is not Modi's job". Also, ur history of Japan/china is wrong. China/Japan never accepted English the way India did. U just did a superficial comparison and tried to show "they are same as us". By the way, Arabization of languages is on rise in Indonesia. Many ancient temples are now being converted into mosques. You are misinformed on that one also.

Has anything changed? India is same old dead pacifist country. Same old excuses. Excuses are for slaves.

English is a international language which benefits India, are you retarded?

 

[Rank]

lol a country whom 60% of population not even capable to earn $/ under massive poverty line.... a country whom defense heavily dependent on Russian and West countries becoming P.Member of UN is big LOLZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[JaiShriAllahNath]

English is a international language which benefits India, are you retarded?

Its a "medium", not international language. Go visit Japan/Europe/Russia/China/Korea. None of them use it. And don't abuse me, probably you are super-retarded & d1ckless too.

White-men don't want to lose 1.25 billion slaves(a future english-speaking employee workforce to work under DOLLAR framework). That's the reason english primary schools are directly promoted by Hillary Clinton and Bill gate's foundations in india. This is not charity, they are funding future employees. I am sure you are up for it.

China is promoting own empire in the world, built on - Renmibi(currency) and Mandarin(China's language). They are building 300 mandarin teaching foundations around the world, which will promote Mandarin worldwide just like British/Hillary clinton promotes English in tribal areas of West-bengal.

Indian govt. is busy funding English institutes in Africa and Sri Lanka. Destroying similar cultures with own axe. LOL. With every English institute, you are making British/West popular as daddy. If you promote indian languages instead, those kids in Africa will grow up with affinity towards Bharat, they will do business with us.

Modi visited Hannovar(Germany) trade fair. That trade fair had Mandarin, Japanese languages on street board outside, but no Devanagari fonts. Why? Because chinese+Japanese governments promote their languages abroad, they fund teaching institutes. Their leaders visit those schools.(Indian leaders goto West/Europe only for begging, not promoting anything from Bharat). You can't enter Japan unless you learn little Japanese language and prove it to their embassy. These things are not "SMALL", but play main role in passing a deep message to Western world - "If you want respect from Japan, then accommodate Japanese as world language in Google/in Germany streets", this is how things are changed.

Why Twitter has TAJ-MAHAL on homepage(belonging to invader minority), but no Indian symbol? This is result of poor policies of indian government. They are slavish when negotiating terms of business, while allowing Twitter in India. Japan/China are smarter, they know these things and they negotiate strategically.

India is very huge compared to Japan by the way, and still Modi failed to get Devanagari on German street in Hannovar in such important event. It shows lack of expertise in Modi's team. Probably lot of anglophiles in team.

Let me repeat what i said before - Indian elites lack confidence in themselves. Indian scientists are fully capable of building own C-17, but don't want to fund it. They are funding French R&D labs instead. China and Japan are not mentally weak like this. Even Rajiv Gandhi showed more confidence in indian brains, than Modi.

Even Rajiv Malhotra has openly criticized Modi government for its lack of expertise & wasting big opportunities due to poor homework. He literally said - "this government is wasting time".

 

[Dr Gupta]

Its a "medium", not international language. Go visit Japan/Europe/Russia/China/Korea. None of them need it in day to day life.

English is a international business language, the fact that we are using it on this platform speaks volumes. Europeans learn to speak more than one language, if you visit countries like Czech Republic etc they speak 3 or 4 languages.
Global Business Speaks English - HBR


More and more multinational companies are mandating English as the common corporate language—Airbus, Daimler-Chrysler, Fast Retailing, Nokia, Renault, Samsung, SAP, Technicolor, and Microsoft in Beijing, to name a few—in an attempt to facilitate communication and performance across geographically diverse functions and business endeavors.

 

[Tshering22]

^^ you didn't disagree with any of my points. But added same old pacifist excuses like "this continues, but in future we will change it", "economy is more important right now"(as if renaming 5000 city names will halt economy), "it is not Modi's job". Also, ur history of Japan/china is wrong. China/Japan never accepted English the way India did. U just did a superficial comparison and tried to show "they are same as us". By the way, Arabization of languages is on rise in Indonesia. Many ancient temples are now being converted into mosques. You are misinformed on that one also.

You were also wrong on vishakapatnam. None of my friends from there call it "Vishakapatnam". They always call it "vizag". I think you have built around urself a wall of "all is well" and gone to sleep. This "carelessness"(a kind of psychological condition found in depressed colonized societies who refuse to stand up to injustice after a long period of genocide) is pretty praised/promoted/glamourized by islamic bolywood. For any Hindu issue, they say "keep silence". In next breath, they promote Arabized songs. Bollywood was very sanksritized in 1930s. Arabization started post 1971 Indo-pak war when USA aligned with Saudi-Arabia+Pakistan(1973 oil-$ agreement) and started pushing arabization. Vatican and Mecca work together when they are in India. They fight when they are outside India. you should know this.

Has anything changed? India is same old dead pacifist country. Same old excuses. Excuses are for slaves. Modi is also like you, postponing things instead of solving them fast and moving on.

Do yourself and the country a favour; destroy opposition, leftists, secularists and anything that stands in front of the government. Then All will change in an instant.

You think we want all these crappy names? No. But some things take time. The basic foundations of a country have to be strengthened before we can challenge anyone to do what we want.

Either that or we remove democracy. I'd love to kick out democracy in place of a single-party nationalist state.

But for now, that is wishful thinking. Do suggest options, friend.

 

[Established_1965]

My dear Chinese friends, before saying India doesn't deserve a Permanent seat, you should seriously do a soul searching.

It was Republic of China which participated in WW2 and got a permanent seat as a price. I don't think PRC could have joined the allies during WW2. Supporters of PRC should seriously thank ROC for this.

Don't forget in 1969 what USSR did to China (Sino-Soviet border conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mike2000 is back]

that's true in every word.
But then again, thats why the G 4 was formed. Brazil, Japan and Germany are as keen. In fact if you didn't know, we support candidature of countries from Africa and Latin America strongly as these are not represented in the UNSC at all.

Yes true. But you should know the so called G4 has even less chance of joining the P5, since China has openly said IT WILL NEVER ALLOW Japan to join, well not until Japan has sincerely/fully apologised for its past war crimes, stop visiting yashukini shrine, and return back the senkakus islands we all know this will never happen, so that's null and void, since the G4 wants to join as a group. Plus France and yes Britain will be reluctant to allow Germany as well , I'm not even talking about other developing countries like Brazil, turkey, Indonesia, mexico, Nigeria, South Africa etc who will all shout discrimination and want to join as well else they won't accept any such vote which favours just 4 countries.In short I don't see the P5 expanding anytime soon
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[Tshering22]

It is Anglofication, not simplification. Both are different things. I know full history of rape of Bharatiya languages. It is you who is confused. Vizag is a British name of Bharatiya city named Vishakapatnam. Britishers found it hard to pronounce it so they renamed whole city, and slavish rulers post 1947 accepted it. For Britishers, this is simplification, but for Bharatiya people, this is "anglofication"(dilution of ur own identity and shifting to a dominating framework, due to ur weak resistance). Now u should ask urself, who u are? British slave or Bharatiya? If you are bharatiya, you will never say "this is simplification".

Indians have habit of embracing the slavery by giving weak excuses. Similarly, Modi feels ashamed to call it "Make in Bharat", he calls it "Make in India". In India, it is considered shameful to question slavery(be it islamic or English). Such voices are often considered tribalistic(VHP, Bajrang Dal). The recent mocking of Vada paav(a Bharatiya dish) by Anglo-indian Shobhaa De is a good example of this anti-Bharat racism. English educated class of BOMBAY(which has lot of parsis, sindhis, pakis, balochis) consider vada-paav a "backward hindu dish, which is unhealthy, filthy, unclean". They refer to Marathi people as "Ghaati"(a derogatory word). If these bombaiyya types saw some cow on road, they feel "sick", but they don't feel sick when eating intestines, bladder of same cow.

Indonesia also uses word Rupee, because they were also British colony. Its a British given word.

Even today, Prayaag is known as "Allahabad". Modi refused to rename Ahmedabad to Karnavati-Nagar due to fear of muslims.

Don't feel ashamed to accept Hindus are mental slaves and mentally weak. They feel ashamed to project their true identity. They love calling Urdu indian culture, while the truth is, "Urdu" is Arabic version of Hindi, its not indian culture.

Recently, i have heard Arabic version of Rajasthan's song MALHAR. They renamed it "Miya malhar". This is called "cultural genocide". Indonesia was converted using these cultural hijacking tactics, with huge funding support from islamic nations outside.

Slaves are always walked upon because they bend easily. Just like Native-American(Cherokee) culture vanished from mainstream and now exists only in museum, similarly Modi is promoting TAJ-MAHAL in Hannovar(Germany) and "Make in India", pushing native terms and culture into museum(just like his "Sanskrit day", days are made for someone who is dead).

In India, if you speak about Marathi authors like P.L.Deshpande(who was more talented than morons like Shakespeare), then you would be called "a backward person who has no respect for English daddy who civilized our country"(Amartya sen & Romila Thapar's bogus history) and you will never get invite in that party.function. This racism has only grown in India, not decreased. This racism exists even within BJP, that's the reason of recent fights between ShivSena/VHP vs. Modi. Modi is pretty guilt-ridden guy, he lacks proper rooting.

This is the reason i respect JAPAN, not morons like Modi who promote India and Taj-mahal, and forgot his own roots. It is better tobe called "TRIBAL VHP member" than sitting with anglocized a$$holes. Now, i welcome the trools of Modi to attack me and civilize me.

I respect your sentiments bhaisahab.

Modi is not against returning the pride of Bharatiyas. In fact why are you attacking him?

He is just new right now and has done so much for the country. He has not promoted Taj Mahal in any campaign.

He always says 'Bharat Mata' and not mother India. He prefers to talk in Hindi/Gujarati wherever he wants to.

He makes it a point to always visit our spiritual places abroad wherever available to highlight our culture and show our pride.

Where is your anger against that pooch Manmohan no-at-all-Singh? Or his Italian mistress?

Where is your anger for 10 years of mismanagement when they were openly supporting muslim and christian aggression against both your Hindu and our communities?

Where was your anger when MMS in his first term had the fcking audacity to say 'Muslims have the first right to resources in India'?

Why no anger against those traitors and cheats?

Why are you targeting a PM who is finally doing something for the country?


Please get realistic. The country needs advancement as much as it needs to get back to its roots.

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You are comparing Shobhaa De like b*tch to PM Modi? Really man?

I hate these wannabe colonial types too. But I am not clouded with irrational anger against THE ONLY MAN who is standing up for my country and motherland.

It is because of Modi that today we have restored the confidence that the world was losing in us between 2004-2014.

We were almost economically broken due to the list of scams, communalization and the loss of confidence in the mainstream society.

So much so that even Nigeria, Myanmar and Maldives were able to politically corner us.

Why didn't you go and lynch these traitors?

Why abusing PM Modi now?

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MAKE IN INDIA is an international campaign.

Just like Japanese write MADE IN JAPAN or Chinese write MADE IN CHINA.

Japanese don't write made in Nihon or Chinese don't write Made in Zhongguo.


Please get your priorities right.

The PM is doing his part for developing the country and keeping the Bharatiya (Hindu and other) identity proud as you have seen in his visits.

If you feel so much about roots and rootedness:

1- Please go around your society, gather the kids and teach them about the great heroes that emerged from your state and across the country. Teach them from Shivaji in west to Prithviraj Chauhan in north toChola in south to Vikramaditya of Kashmri to Chakradhwaj Singha in northeast to Prithvinarayan in the east.

2- Teach these children Sanskrit and the true Hindu philosophy (assuming you are Hindu, from your screenname). Teach them that it is important to be proud of one's culture and scriptures and language but be open minded enough to see others views as well. In fact, just teach them the scriptures.

3- Do you know any traditional martial arts of your state or region?

Or are you just meant to shout and whine online about PM Modi?

If you do, please teach them to your locality kids so that the next generation knows with great pride how your region has its own great martial arts like wushu of China and jujitsu of Japan.

I plan to teach my kids all I know in our traditions both Buddhist and Sanatani.

4- If not anything that you are aware, PLEASE spread awareness about convent schools when you hear your neighbour or family friend boasting how he/she is sending their child to a convent school.

5- Learn to meditate, and teach the art of meditation to kids around your locality and if you're a parent, to your kids.

6- Emphasize on Bharatiya culture like removing shoes/slippers outside the rooms, fold hands to greet elders with a soft bow and proper food manners like eating with clean hands etc.

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Bharat is as much yours as it is mine or PM Modi's.

Don't expect one man to don the Superman's cape and do all the job.

Do your bit to educate a generation. Things will change faster than cursing a sincere, respected PM.

 

[mike2000 is back]

My dear Chinese friends, before saying India doesn't deserve a Permanent seat, you should seriously do a soul searching.

It was Republic of China which participated in WW2 and got a permanent seat as a price. I don't think PRC could have joined the allies during WW2. Supporters of PRC should seriously thank ROC for this.

True talk, it was the KMT republic of China that fought Japan mainly, the communists under Mao were a mere guerilla force back then and avoided the main battles against Japan(which was wise since they didn't stand a chance against the well equipped imperial Japanese army if they went on directly against them) while the KMT bore the brute force fighting Japan for almost a decade. So after the war the KMT ROC rightly assumed its place among the P5. After 1949 when they lost to the communists and fled to Taiwan they still hold that untill 1972 when Nixon recognised PRC instead and ROC had to give its seat to PRC.

IN short, there's no issue if China deserves a seat since both government's I.e PRC and ROC both claim to represent 1 China, only difference is that we now recognise the PRC instead of ROC.Still its China, just different government's.

On another note, I personally admire/respect the KMT role during the war which many undestimate. They were poorly equipped compared to Japan, corrupt, fighting a civil war at the same time and yet still managed to hold off the mighty imperial Japanese army for 10 years from taking the whole country, meanwhile Japan steamrolled across Asia in a matter of months. Lool. Though they could have done better still , but they tried their best then giving the situation.

 

[Tshering22]

Yes true. But you should know the so called G4 has even less chance of joining the P5, since China has openly said IT WILL NEVER ALLOW Japan to join, well not until Japan has sincerely/fully apologised for its past war crimes, stop visiting yashukini shrine, and return back the senkakus islands we all know this will never happen, so that's null and void, since the G4 wants to join as a group.

Japan has taken measures to do its best:

List of war apology statements issued by Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But Chinese demands are increasingly childish. It is like asking the British to return Pakistan, Myanmar and Bangladesh back which was partitioned and then asking you back Diego Garcia which is now a US overseas territory from UK.

Don't visit Yasukuni shrine? That's on their own land! What kind of demand is this? They're honouring those who fought for Japan that's all.

If these demands are to be realistically seen, no matter how aggrieved China has been due to wrong actions from Japan, this in today's context is simply impractical. Today's Japanese cannot do anything to undo what their ancestors did.

Plus France and yes Britain will be reluctant to allow Germany as well ,I'm not even talking about other developing countries like Brazil, turkey, Indonesia, mexico, Nigeria, South Africa etc who will all shout discrimination and want to join as well else they won't accept any such vote which favours just 4 countries.In short I don't see the P5 expanding anytime soon

Because deep down below all the smiles and niceties, you, France and US still hold them under the nuclear threat, applicable since WW2 got over. Germany is still a hostage to the whim of you three.

We know it.

Again, it is really false to blame today's German generation for what Hitler did in those days.

It is like we threatening you with nuclear war for what Churchill did in India.

Is it practical? No.

UNO is a body that is supposed to represent people from all sides both rich and poor.

We support candidature for other developing countries as well as I have highlighted.

Otherwise UNSC is simply pointless. It will hold sway only on small helpless countries which have no other means but will have no effect on emerging countries.

Tell me, there is no war going on due to any large emerging nation. They are stable and remaining quiet in their work.

So what criteria will you define to restrict that?

By the current UNSC definition even Switzerland will not be allowed to join despite being the most neutral nation on earth.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Japan has taken measures to do its best:


But Chinese demands are increasingly childish. It is like asking the British to return Pakistan, Myanmar and Bangladesh back which was partitioned and then asking you back Diego Garcia which is now a US overseas territory from UK.

Don't visit Yasukuni shrine? That's on their own land! What kind of demand is this? They're honouring those who fought for Japan that's all.

If these demands are to be realistically seen, no matter how aggrieved China has been due to wrong actions from Japan, this in today's context is simply impractical. Today's Japanese cannot do anything to undo what their ancestors did.




Because deep down below all the smiles and niceties, you, France and US still hold them under the nuclear threat, applicable since WW2 got over. Germany is still a hostage to the whim of you three.

We know it.

Again, it is really false to blame today's German generation for what Hitler did in those days.

It is like we threatening you with nuclear war for what Churchill did in India.

Is it practical? No.

UNO is a body that is supposed to represent people from all sides both rich and poor.

We support candidature for other developing countries as well as I have highlighted.

Otherwise UNSC is simply pointless. It will hold sway only on small helpless countries which have no other means but will have no effect on emerging countries.

Tell me, there is no war going on due to any large emerging nation. They are stable and remaining quiet in their work.

So what criteria will you define to restrict that?

By the current UNSC definition even Switzerland will not be allowed to join despite being the most neutral nation on earth.

I don't want to go into a pointless debate about if Japan has SINCERELY apologised or not, but what I know for sure is that south Korea and China are not making a big fuss about such things for nothing, fact is there are several things some Japaneseright wing officials say about their past war crimes during WWII that if it was in Germany they will be imprisoned/prosecuted, and it negates any past apologies they might have made.Anyway thats another topic.
As for we, France, and U.S being(maybe) reluctant to let Germany (or even India) join, its simply becausecno country wants to dilute their influence and let in another bigger competitor/peer. Its not like we hate Germans, Indians etc, nor is it because we are blaming current Germans for Hitlers actions. Its simply out of self interests as always.

Japan and Germany initiated the war and lost so they had to cede their high seats to the victors, while India wasn't even independent then hence no seat. As I said India is simply sour cuz its not part of it, had India been in P 5 it too will never agree to let others in (most of all its rivals like china, pakistan etc) since it will like to keep its priviledge as well. Lool do you deny this?

Yes I already said the current system of P5 is unfair since things have changed a lot today, but that doesn't mean anything at all to the P5 members, geo politics is not a clean/moral/ fair game, countries will always seek to protect their interests/positions no matter what others might think or say. So India has to accept the current situation and just pray/hope some unforseen event might happen in future which might lead to P5 enlargement, nothing much you can do.