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Iran may cancel $7bn gas pipeline deal with Pakistan: Iranian media

Was Qatar selling us Gas at far lower price compared to Iran? Why Iran hasn't lowered price of gas as Pakistan wanted? What this all fuss about? Any idea, guys?

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Qatar can provide you only LNG.
As other subs said above , the main problem is struggling over price of the gas. You cannot expect us to sell it for free guys :D
Although the headline is Illusory. Media says that there are 3 scenarios for that pipe line. Sanctions are over guys ;)
Plus Pakistan can provide it from Qatar in the same way as did in the past, through LNGs. Qatar will not say no
 
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has shared with Iran amendments to gas sale and purchase agreement (GSPA) to extend implementation schedule and revise pricing under the $1.35-billion gas pipeline project.

A senior government official on Thursday told Dawn that the Economic Coordination Committee (ECC) of the Cabinet hasn’t yet allowed the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Resources to start formal negotiations with Iran over fresh pricing.

He said the ministry requested the ECC in July this year to revive a committee to start formal talks and “we are still waiting for the approval”.

The petroleum ministry told parliament a few days ago that for the Iran-Pakistan (IP) project to be implemented in the extended period, “amendment to the GSPA was required”. It said a draft amendment had been shared with Tehran that agreed to negotiate it along with some other changes.

The official explained that the two key amendments were required to be made in the GSPA that had been “under suspension” for a few years. These proposed changes related to extension in timelines under the original agreement Pakistan should have completed the pipeline on its side by Dec 31, 2014 and gas flows should have started with effect from Jan 1, 2015.

Secondly, the pricing formula has to be revised based on latest market situation, prevailing prices from competitive sources and international best practices. Both Tehran and Islamabad wanted extension in dates and prices that would trigger a series of actions in line with best international practices.

The talks on the project were revived after a few years of suspension in March this year during the Iranian president visit to Pakistan. The two sides agreed to GSPA amendment for extension of time to finalise workable implementation schedule, price negotiation as per review clause in GSPA and Iranian proposal regarding amendments to the GSPA.

Since the project could not be completed due to unilateral withdrawal from government-to-government cooperation agreement by Iran, the Pakistani side proposed to extend the time for completion of the project for which proposed amendments to the GSPA were shared with Iran. The Iranian side also verbally suggested making some amendments to the GSPA. It, however, did not share any draft despite repeated requests.

The federal cabinet approved signing of the Iran-Pakistan GSPA on June 3, 2009. The petroleum ministry also sought permission to constitute a price negotiation committee led by the secretary petroleum and comprising secretaries or their nominees of the ministries of finance, law, foreign affairs and managing directors of the Sui Southern Gas Company, Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Ltd and Interstate Gas Company.

The sources said Pakistan discussed the issue of “snap back” of sanctions besides setting realistic time frame for achieving financial closure and construction timelines. Iran assured alternative preparations to the sanctions issue through contractual frameworks.

Iran has told Pakistan that the pipeline segment on the Iranian side will take about one-and-a-half years to complete. Pakistan has stressed the need for setting the right timelines targeting early completion yet adequate provisions and flexibility for long-term measures and all eventualities towards achieving an amiable financial closure and construction.

On the matter of price review, Pakistan has referred to new and transformed gas market dynamics, including the availability of liquefied natural gas as a cheaper alternative fuel to the Iranian gas. Iran has officially conveyed that there was no difficulty in reviewing the price mechanism under the price review trigger.

To satisfy Iran over payments and banking arrangements, Pakistan has already taken a few steps in lifting restrictions on banking transactions with Iran, including a notification by the State Bank of Pakistan a few months ago. Iran has already indicated revisiting the price formula indexation from Japan Crude Cocktail to Brent and a discount for peak off-takes in summer.

Pakistan is currently building the 700-kilometre Gwadar-Nawabshah gas pipeline through Chinese assistance.

Another full report
ISLAMABAD:


With Iran coming out of decades-long global economic isolation, China has offered Pakistan that it was willing to finance the un-built portion of a multibillion-dollar gas pipeline project.
Officials told The Express Tribune that the China Petroleum Pipeline Bureau (CPPB) – currently engaged with the $1.4 billion Gwadar-Nawabshah LNG terminal and pipeline project – was keen to work on the remaining portion of the gas pipeline from Gwadar to the Iranian border to implement the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project.

Other countries pull out, China increases investment in Pakistan

China was providing 85% of the total financing for the LNG pipeline project and wanted to emulate the same model for building the remaining portion of the pipeline from Gwadar up to the Iranian border.

The IP gas pipeline project had been stalled due to international curbs against Tehran. But soon after lifting of the sanctions, the United States had imposed certain sanctions against Tehran that were hindering the implementation of the IP gas pipeline project.

Officials said China had also expressed its desire to work on the remaining portion of the 80km pipeline from Gwadar to connect it with the Iranian border. China was lobbying to award the contract of this portion as per the cost decided for the Gwadar LNG pipeline.

A senior government official said Pakistan was working on LNG import projects but LNG supply was not a secured source because in case of war, this supply source could be halted.

He said this was the reason why the IP project was considered to be an essential as well as strategic project for Pakistan.

Is Pakistan really a dream destination for China?

“In case of some interruption in the supply of LNG, Pakistan will be able to get gas supply through the IP pipeline,” the official added.

The other reason was that prices of steel and other material for gas pipelines had dropped over the years. During the last PPP government, Iran had decided to lay the IP pipeline by nominating an Iranian company. Iran had also pledged $500 million financing for the project.

The offer of the Iranian company contract was $2.8 billion. German consultant ILF had estimated the contract cost at $1.8 billion. However, its cost had come down to $1.6 billion since.

The official said the approved cost of the LNG pipeline project by the Executive Committee of the National Economic Council (Ecnec) was $2 billion that included the $1.4 billion EPC (engineering, procurement and construction) cost and $600 million in duties to the government.

He said if the pipeline is extended up to the Iranian border, its cost as per the Gwadar LNG pipeline terms and conditions would come to $1.6 billion.

The official added that the government was working on a plan to set up two jetties at the Gwadar Seaport to deal with 1,200 mmcfd LNG where two floating terminals would be made operational.

The Chinese company would also work on the project as the EPC contractor and China would provide financing for it.

We need cheap price.
 
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Someone should take a look at the subject of this thread..It is misleading and trolling in nature..Iran is not saying to cancel rather providing option to complete for Pakistan.

I am also surprised, why Pakistan is not really importing oil and gas in big way from Iran if Iran is just your next door neighour....Unless Iran price is expensive than Arab nations fuel price.
 
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Pakistan had to complete that pipeline 5 years ago but KSA is controlling Nawaz Gov and we have to suffer with no CNG and trade deficit by purchasing more oil from Gulf. Iran has completed their side of pipeline for many years now but waiting for Pakistan to complete. but now no one can interfere as China and Pak Army is determine to make the pipeline work so finally some good days for Pakistan public.
Wasnt the previous Pakistani govt pro-iran then why didnt they complete it? Rather than blaming Pakistan, blame Iran's nuclear program due to which they faced UN sancations.

Qatar can provide you only LNG.
As other subs said above , the main problem is struggling over price of the gas. You cannot expect us to sell it for free guys :D
Although the headline is Illusory. Media says that there are 3 scenarios for that pipe line. Sanctions are over guys ;)
Plus Pakistan can provide it from Qatar in the same way as did in the past, through LNGs. Qatar will not say no
We want you to sell it on market price rather than price of your own will. Iran is selling gas with higher price and you want us to pay more for less services.
 
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Pakistan had to complete that pipeline 5 years ago but KSA is controlling Nawaz Gov and we have to suffer with no CNG and trade deficit by purchasing more oil from Gulf. Iran has completed their side of pipeline for many years now but waiting for Pakistan to complete. but now no one can interfere as China and Pak Army is determine to make the pipeline work so finally some good days for Pakistan public.

You don't seem to follow news. Iran sanctions are the main hurdle behind pipeline.
 
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We need cheap price.
:P :D So buy from Qatar. You will need some milking buckets :lol:.
I hope your government will be satisfied to deal fairly and we say cheers after that deal. Anything is possible
We want you to sell it on market price rather than price of your own will. Iran is selling gas with higher price and you want us to pay more for less services.
Perhaps i'm wrong but as i remember Turkey is purchasing Iranian Gas already and price is the same price. If your government has budget problems, Iran can agree on long term pay back for purchased Gas. Anyway let's wait on the result of negotiations.
 
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Pakistan's economy can't sustain blowback if it go ahead with dealing under sanctioned Iran, Best time for negotiating with west was when they attacked Afghanistan now wait for sanctions to be lifted.
 
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If HaramDari take power in next election it might give a new life to this deal .. we all know that Haramdari is close to Iran and Nawaz is close to house of Saud .




If you are taking about AZ he is close only to MONEY. No Money No Honey BaBe
 
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Well hopefully the project concludes now that UAE has no objection to it

As for sanctions on Iran I don't see any Sanctions

  • Boeing sells stuff all the time , all the time
  • Recently Austrian company bought some rights to invest in iran etc
 
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Hats off for the word, was always confused to what should I call this cur. He literally took our country to the brink of falling in stone-age.
Zardari has nothing to do with stoneage. There are other extremist people which want to drag us in stone age, keeping mismanagement on one side ., zardari gave all powers to parliament, and he made history to complete 1st term and peaceful transition of power to others. Remember, it is PPPP that is consistant in policy against stone age taliban and other extremists even they gave sacrifices, on other hand imran khan and Nawaz has not consistent policy against terrorists. Confused people, confused policies.
 
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wtf.. Complete it or drop the program.. For how long public will have to read articles on this subject?

As for pricing i think Turks to have problem with Iranian gas compared to Russian gas... Quote any Turkish member..
 
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Pakistan has extreme poverty and energy crisis so we need energy right now its so awful the electricity sector.
 
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