Iran-India to build gas pipeline through sea to save transit fee

[Observer7]

Wow thats the news... India very much required it. As it was not feasible to bring the gas through Pakistan. Cause the hostilities between the two countries is never ending. And always there could be a chance of disruption and flow. Great news India....Keep Going.

 

[longbrained]

Why not ..we just need to stay 12 Nautical miles from your coast line and there is not a jack you can do about it!!

As I said in my above post, India can not build the pipe line since it is much more costlier than IPI and India does not have money for even IPI let alone this one. Undersea pipes cost three times more than over land ones.

But India has now another problem too. Upto 200 nautical miles off the Pakistan's shore is considered exclusive economic zone under international laws of seas and this means that the pipe line entering that zone has to first take permission from Pakistan. Any commercial activity in that zone is controlled by Pakistan. To go around this zone India would have to build the pipe line in international continental waters which would make the length of the pipe line ridiculously long and so expensive that India can never manage to pull it off. It is a pipe dream. Pakistan is indespensible if India wants to have energy security for its future generations.

 

[Vasily Zaytsev]

Not possible. They can not built a underwater pipeline without using Pakistan's coast line.

What are you smoking , for oman India pipeline, where does pakistani coast line comes into picture.? The pipeline is almost 1000 km away from Pakistani coast line.

The same can be used by Iran or Iran can use the same route for its own pipe line.

Pakistani coast line will be way up in the north of the pipe line many hundreds of Kms away.
Even our our refineries in Gujrat are much close to Pakistani coast line than this proposed pipe line.

 

[jha]

As I said in my above post, India can not build the pipe line since it is much more costlier than IPI and India does not have money for even IPI let alone this one.

Money was never an issue, sweety..Our Forex reserve is around $ 317 Bill.

 

[idune]

Can any indian show any fesibility study done on undersea gas pipeline between Iran and India?

 

[jha]

What are you smoking , for oman India pipeline, where does pakistani coast line comes into picture.? The pipeline is almost 1000 km away from Pakistani coast line.

The same can be used by Iran or Iran can use the same route for its own pipe line.

Pakistani coast line will be way up in the north of the pipe line many hundreds of Kms away.
Even our our refineries in Gujrat are much close to Pakistani coast line than this proposed pipe line.

They are still in shock..Can not comprehend how can India pull something like this...
This OMAN factor has taken them by surprise...

 

[Kinetic]

As I said in my above post, India can not build the pipe line since it is much more costlier than IPI and India does not have money for even IPI let alone this one.

But India has now another problem too. Upto 200 nautical miles off the Pakistan's shore is considered exclusive economic zone under international laws of seas and this means that the pipe line entering that zone has to first take permission from Pakistan. Any commercial activity in that zone is controlled by Pakistan. To go around this zone India would have to build the pipe line in international continental waters which would make the length of the pipe line ridiculously long and so expensive that India can never manage to pull it off. It is a pipe dream.

Look like some people got too hurt reading the news! Those signing the deal know more about the cost and the location of the pipeline than you.

As I said in my above post, India can not build the pipe line since it is much more costlier than IPI and India does not have money for even IPI let alone this one.

You said that does not mean it is true, India not only can build this pipeline but building others as well. India is considering pipeline from Myanmar. Where did you got the money thing?

The gas pipeline between Oman and India will cost $ 3-4 billion and between Iran-India should be same. India do not have the money o invest? lol

 

[Vasily Zaytsev]

As I said in my above post, India can not build the pipe line since it is much more costlier than IPI and India does not have money for even IPI let alone this one.

But India has now another problem too. Upto 200 nautical miles off the Pakistan's shore is considered exclusive economic zone under international laws of seas and this means that the pipe line entering that zone has to first take permission from Pakistan. Any commercial activity in that zone is controlled by Pakistan. To go around this zone India would have to build the pipe line in international continental waters which would make the length of the pipe line ridiculously long and so expensive that India can never manage to pull it off. It is a pipe dream.

DOn't worry this pipe line would be way away from your 200 nautical miles of Pakistan EEZ. So no question of any permission.

Whether it could be long and expensive thats India's headache. We can still afford it!!!.

 

[Observer7]

India can certainly spend their cash on Feasibility studies , but any bio hazard - close to Pakistani zones will be destroyed

Because effect of a "Man Mad disaster " will effect life in vital sea fishing areas and its not acceptable for Pakistani People and Our country in general that such a dangerous project is done under water where BP (UK) showed how much damage such a project can do to eco systems and marine life

Pakistan does not have 100-200 billion dollars to do clean up work , no Sir ... We will simply refuse any such line to be passed thru

India can make a pipe line and flow it thru , swis canal , thru europe , thur US ports , and from Japan and from Bangladesh to its East coast no problem


The underwater currents determine the flow of "Pollution, hazard effects and danger to coastal areas of Pakistan"

Even a underwater leak , will result in Gas being mixed in SEA water and it will effect the marine life , and you would see dead fishes showing up on Pakistani coastal lines and obviosuly India will have no means to repair small Permanent leaks

From stand point of maintenance also its easier to fix land based Gas lines

Otherwise a Terrif will have to be paid , that will be Insurance for any natural or man made disaster

The OMAN coast line is prone to SEA based storms and also occasionally storms are born in that region , which would probbly destroy underwater cables or rigs

Pakistan cannot do any thing about it. As this will be in international waters. Pakistan will be having rights only at its waters, but once it is out it cant do any thing much. Also if Pakistan creates any problem then it is jeopardizing its relation with 3 countries Iran, Oman and India. And Pakistan is in no state to have hostilities with Islamic countries like Iran and Oman.

 

[ares]

As I said in my above post, India can not build the pipe line since it is much more costlier than IPI and India does not have money for even IPI let alone this one.

But India has now another problem too. Upto 200 nautical miles off the Pakistan's shore is considered exclusive economic zone under international laws of seas and this means that the pipe line entering that zone has to first take permission from Pakistan. Any commercial activity in that zone is controlled by Pakistan. To go around this zone India would have to build the pipe line in international continental waters which would make the length of the pipe line ridiculously long and so expensive that India can never manage to pull it off. It is a pipe dream.

Don't go about making fool of your self..I know UNCLOS on back of my hand ..read rules regarding a country's EEZ.

EEZ for all intents is international waters..a host country is only allowed exclusive fishing and drilling rights in an EEZ and not much more ...the host country does not have exclusive rights for underwater pipelines/cables etc

 

[shrivatsa]

Can any indian show any fesibility study done on undersea gas pipeline between Iran and India?

To a bangladeshi why should we,you are in no way related to this pipeline. these is between India and other supplier parties and they are smart enough to know the pros and cons

 

[T90TankGuy]

Can any pakistani think constructively i mean first idea you get is bomb !

you should get the award for the post of the day . Pakistani members here feel the world revolves around them and hate being left out. is it any surprise seeing the mentality here why people in the west are reacting to Pakistan in the way they have been. i am surprised how senior members here have not admonished people who speak blatantly of supporting a terrorist act.

 

[jdme]

This is going to cost a lot, if the project is even feasible. Good thing India is skipping Pakistan entirely.

 

[shrivatsa]

you should get the award for the post of the day . Pakistani members here feel the world revolves around them and hate being left out. is it any surprise seeing the mentality here why people in the west are reacting to Pakistan in the way they have been. i am surprised how senior members here have not admonished people who speak blatantly of supporting a terrorist act.

I cant understand where this line of thinking comes from is it due to militarization of the society or eternal hate against Indians.
There was a plan before of building pipeline in partnership with Saudis. pipeline can be extended to Russia through central Asian countries.

 

[karan.1970]

I cant understand where this line of thinking comes from is it due to militarization of the society or eternal hate against Indians.
There was a plan before of building pipeline in partnership with Saudis. pipeline can be extended to Russia through central Asian countries.

Its actually both.. And I am surprised no one from Pakistan has yet brought up the nuclear angle on this..