Invasion of India: Doc

[LeGenD]

Most of Indian muslims are hindu converts, all of Bangladeshi muslims are converts as well, most of Pakistani populace let's say 90% are Hindu converts as well, though u do have some infusion of population from other lands. Any pre - partition history belongs to the greater India. Though the British ruled over parts of India you never heard them claiming history of the lands they ruled. Pakistan as a nation's history starts from 1947. A land known as India though ruled by various kings was in existence from many centuries. The British trading company that was formed in the 1700's was called The east India company - why was that? Columbus, Alexender, Vasco da gama, etc came looking for India. The french, Portuguese came looking for India. Nowhere in the annals of history is the word Pakistan mentioned before the 1940's. Porus was a hindu Indian king.

Foreigners coin the world Hindustan for the whole subcontinent because this makes it easier for them to identify the people of the subcontinent.

However, this does not changes the fact that subcontinent used to be as much divided in to different tribes or kingdoms as Europe has been and possibly more so.

and you are saying that those tribals remained like that till the modern Pakistan, no one from them moved anywhere? Present proof and then we can discuss otherwise I consider it bullsh!t

All humans are related to each other in one way or other. Migration is part of human nature. Point here is about recognition of ancient inhabitants of Punjab region to whom Porus belongs and ruled. He does not represents the whole subcontinent.

 

[truhind]

where r u.....on Mars!!

so you do believe that name hindustan was used to identify the people, so either you are a descendent of a hindu or a hybrid with some migrant or invader with lunatic mutancy.

Foreigners coin the world Hindustan for the whole subcontinent because this makes it easier for them to identify the people of the subcontinent.

However, this does not changes the fact that subcontinent used to be as much divided in to different tribes or kingdoms as Europe has been and possibly more so.


All humans are related to each other in one way or other. Migration is part of human nature. Point here is about recognition of ancient inhabitants of Punjab region to whom Porus belongs and ruled. He does not represents the whole subcontinent.

so you do believe that name hindustan was used to identify the people, so either you are a descendent of a hindu or a hybrid with some migrant or invader with lunatic mutancy.

No ones.

where r u.....on Mars!!

 

[LeGenD]

where r u.....on Mars!!

so you do believe that name hindustan was used to identify the people, so either you are a descendent of a hindu or a hybrid with some migrant or invader with lunatic mutancy.





so you do believe that name hindustan was used to identify the people, so either you are a descendent of a hindu or a hybrid with some migrant or invader with lunatic mutancy.

I am not much in to ancestry thing. My father belongs to ancient tribe.

And learn to post with manners.

 

[truhind]

debatable unless terrorists within a british india or in afghanistan with the hindu factor ?

terrorism is not region bound.....history says it's almost at any part of the world.

You entire discussion is headless without any sense.

Its not Indians who have inferiority complex, but its you who is effected by it.

Indus valley civilization belongs to India and has been part of us till just 60 yrs back. We Indians live, breath and enjoy that very culture, where as you guys don't. so you can not claim it.

Your Identity and foundation of your Country is based on one specific religion, so in no way you can claim someones else religion and civilization .

Not all, but definitely you are Arab and not Punjabi. You are a true case of Identity crisis.

Again Pakistan does not have any history beyond 60 yrs. Its India/ Hindustan/ Bharat/ Aryavart to whom all history and historical evens belong. And we are the proud heir of that history.

From Alexandra to Muslim Invaders to Britishers all came to Bharat for its wealth. Pakistan was no where in there wild wild dream. lol

Unable to understand why you are so obsessed with our history, culture and civilization?

Its all bullshit, how many ancient scriptures you know about pakistan....lemme guess....none!!!
We have world libraries full of our civilization. It is just the cost we are paying for your muddleheadedness which is the result of britishers' DAR policy.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Location, Location, Location is everything, what do you think? Porus would be with his descendants not some Tamil like you, hands off our heritage.

So what if you are a descendant?

Porus would have been highly disappointed if he had known that his descendants would adopt some identity originating in Arabia.

 

[Bhairava]

There is still 200 million Muslims in Northern and central India.

Just to show you how much we love to make you happier, I want a second Partition with Haryana, UP and Bihar being formed as Mughalistan. Being a full blooded Mughal from both sides of my family with ancestral roots in Dehli ( yes Dehli is how we pronounce that city in my family and not the Delhi version of some Dyslexic Britisher ) I would make Dehli as the Capital of my Mughalistan Empire.

You can call Delhi as even lolatringtring, doesn't make a darn difference lol.

Actually I feel for the Muhajirs. Neither wanted here and just barely tolerated there and so the extra jump to prove the patriotism. Jump a little higher matey.

Porus was hindu for sure. But he is not a resident of modern age India.

Porus is one of the ancestors of natives of Punjab region of modern age Pakistan. Greeks called these natives 'people of the Indus'.

And how did you arrive at that conclusion ?

Many claim that Puroshotthama was a Paurava rajput from modern day Rajasthan.

So we shall desist from imposing the modern day political boundaries on ancient day kingdoms that spanned both countries. Fair ?

 

[Bang Galore]

Greece was not formed in the name of religion dude.

Pakistan was.

Apples and oranges.

For everyone claiming a similarity to Greeks, Egyptians,Persians & what not, here above is the answer. If the reason for your state was simply religion & if as your leader said, the heroes of the different community were not your heroes(by virtue of the fact that they didn't belong to your religion), the claims on any non-Islamic history are tenuous. In any case Pakistan becoming the state revolving around Punjab was not one of choice but of an accident of history. Not sure how East Pakistan fits into this narrative. Any Pakistani claims to the contrary is mere opportunistic & nothing more. Actually "Pakistan" should change its independence day to December 1971 to realistically reflect on the creation of the present state of Pakistan. You did not get your independence from India (that would be united Pakistan, a bit like Akhand Pakistan- a relic of history), the only claims of independence can be - you chaps from Bengalis & they from you.

 

[clmeta]

So??? There were divisions in all ancient civilizations. So were in Hindustan. That doesn't mean Hindustan didn't exist. It did and it included most of present day Pakistan.

Foreigners coin the world Hindustan for the whole subcontinent because this makes it easier for them to identify the people of the subcontinent.

However, this does not changes the fact that subcontinent used to be as much divided in to different tribes or kingdoms as Europe has been and possibly more so.


All humans are related to each other in one way or other. Migration is part of human nature. Point here is about recognition of ancient inhabitants of Punjab region to whom Porus belongs and ruled. He does not represents the whole subcontinent.

 

[KingMamba]

I recommend everyone watch the movie Alexander it has a lot of Alexanders battles including against Porus

As for the history why can't we just share it instead of bickering like children.

 

[neutral_person]

LOL did I miss a thread on Arabs/Turks/Persians disowning Pakistan? Why suddenly all of them are lining up for their Hindu ancestry?

P.S. All Pakistanis with Hindu and Sikh ancestry (like myself) are living in India now. Last time I checked, Pakistan has like 1% Hindus left, soon to be extinct probably. In 1947, close to 30% of Pakistan was non-Muslim, made up of Hindus and Sikhs who migrated to India. So yes, IVC and Porus is not only culturally and religiously India's, but by ancestry as well.

 

[clmeta]

Sounds reasonable. We have a shared history. We can't selectively choose what suits our arguements.

I recommend everyone watch the movie Alexander it has a lot of Alexanders battles including against Porus

As for the history why can't we just share it instead of bickering like children.

 

[Bhairava]

As for the history why can't we just share it instead of bickering like children.

What a killjoy...

 

[Dance]

LOL did I miss a thread on Arabs/Turks/Persians disowning Pakistan? Why suddenly all of them are lining up for their Hindu ancestry?

P.S. All Pakistanis with Hindu and Sikh ancestry (like myself) are living in India now. Last time I checked, Pakistan has like 1% Hindus left, soon to be extinct probably. In 1947, close to 30% of Pakistan was non-Muslim, made up of Hindus and Sikhs who migrated to India. So yes, IVC and Porus is not only culturally and religiously India's, but by ancestry as well.

this has been debunked so many times. East Pakistan had majority of the Hindus so when they separated obviously the numbers if Hindus fell

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

Royal Gujjar character is a Gujjar. They are not indigenous to India, but since his people have converted to Hinduism they are the rightful owners of the history. Unless of course he is a chamar or a marasi. Hilarious.

LOL......This kind of Trash is evident from tiny brain like yours! Keep your trash to yourself! Origin of Gujjars is uncertain. There are many theories but non of them are confirmed! Just speculations......

But we the gujjars are mentioned in our Holy religious books and are very much clear about our ethnicity and origin...And that's all i care about!!

Gurjars claim descent from Suryavanshi Kshatriyas (Sun Dynasty) and connect themselves with the Hindu deity Rama.[9] Historically, the Gurjars were Sun-worshipers and are described as devoted to the feet of the Sun-god (God Surya).Their copper-plate grants bear an emblem of the Sun and on their seals too, this symbol is depicted.[10] Also the Gurjar title of honor is Mihir which means Sun.[11][12] Ancient Sanskrit Poet Rajasekhara in his plays styled Gurjar rulers as Raghu-kula-tilaka (Ornament of the race of Raghu), Raghu-gramani (the leader of the Raghus)and so forth.[13]
In Ramayana, it is described that a war was fought among demons and gods.Gurjars fought against demons under the leadership of King Dasharatha.[14] There is also references of gurjar widows in Yoga Vasistha, whose husbands laid down their lives in the battlefield, having their heads tonsured as a mark of their bravement.[15] In Mahabharata war also Gurjars fought and later on along with lord Krishna migrated from Mathura to Dwarka, Gujarat.[16]

We the Gujjars of India are Born warrior!! Ever heard about Brigadier Kuldeep singh chandpuri ? Battle of Longewala ?I am sure you did!! He was Gujjar!

Now GTFO! With your delusional Trash!

And yeah, Unlike the so called Convert Gujjars of pakistan who were so cowards that they accepted Islam just for the sake of Life..!! I pitty them!!

Many Gujjars later converted to Islam during the Muslim rule in South Asia and most of them are currently in Pakistan.

Indians have an inferiority complex and it is evident everywhere.

LOL.....Complex of what? Not making high quality suicide vests ? ....

 

[Dance]

Plus even years after partition, people were still migrating back and forth from Pakistan and india