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Which ones of your mainstream media openly talks against the US military and Pentagon?

The US military does not interfere in politics. They respect civilian authority. They are subordinate to the civilian leadership. They do not stage coups and do not perform other rogue acts. No one has to protest against them. If we do not like their actions we remove the civilians who command them. I am sure such things are alien to Pakistanis.
 
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Inshaallah it will not be long when rented & sold out jabroni trolls will be crushed.
 
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Hi,

I have respect for you---but please spare me the BS---.

Please don't compound on the silliness of your importance of Berkeley---.
So do I, Berkeley was just an example, If you chose to turn blind eye to the entirety of the post, thats your choice, wouldn't surprise me given the current crop of membership here.

here is DC
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Which ones of your mainstream media openly talks against the US military and Pentagon?
umm, All of them:
MSNBC
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...ket-with-damage-to-fighter-jets-1343345219936

NBC
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...inappropriate-afghan-soldier-uniforms-n775081

Fox news
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-reportedly-buried-study-exposing-125-billion-in-waste

Washington post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b6c1db626edb

List is endless, there is no muzzle on anyone here. there is no sacrilege in criticizing anyone for valid reasons.


As for Vietnam war etc, the protests were against the US government and not against US Military. Protests were to bring the men back home and stop the coffins returning instead. You've flipped that as a movement/protests against the US military instead! Good one!

CIA is part of the military complex and heck it's killed one of your presidents as well. It's funny how Americans talk when they've done worst crimes themselves.

Well, you do have a point there, In US the elected government controls the military, not the other way around so your confusion is valid.
 
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Hi,

MilSpec---they count for nothing---.

Southern cal---arizona---nevada utah---midwestern states---east coast up north down south---no one criticizes the US military---no on cnn---no on Fox---no on msnbc---.

These people maybe protesting & there always are protesters---. But if you have a good job and you talk bad about military and make posts on face book---twitter etc---tough luck---.

I have said my piece and that is all from me---.
 
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Sir this @MilSpec comes from a country where thousands of students were suspended from their universities merely for asking how is the josh post pulwama attack, to this day anyone who raises doubt about IAF bogus claims is rated as terrorist/traitor
Tell him to criticize Indian army's war crime in IOK without getting lynched
Prostitution rackets , sex scandals corruption is prevalent in entire military apparatus but god forbid if anyone raises their voice about it they lose their jobs and life too in some cases
Takes a special kind of moron to drag India in a US conversation, but then again given your conduct such gem of a post is inevitable. You want to discuss accountability of the military and compare India and Pakistan you are welcome to do so.

Hi,

MilSpec---they count for nothing---.

Southern cal---arizona---nevada utah---midwestern states---east coast up north down south---no one criticizes the US military---no on cnn---no on Fox---no on msnbc---.

These people maybe protesting & there always are protesters---. But if you have a good job and you talk bad about military and make posts on face book---twitter etc---tough luck---.

I have said my piece and that is all from me---.

That is a ridiculous argument. No one criticizes the military, or the bureacracy or the post office or the FBI just for the sake of it. Certain actions of the government and it;s agaencies are accountable to scrutiny, whether its abu ghareb or gitmo, no media outlet has ever shied away from taking the government to task of misgivings of any of it's arm.

There is no constitutional medieval law like blasphemy law of Pakistan that is ever imposed upon any individual or organization for doing so.
 
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Takes a special kind of moron to drag India in a US conversation, but then again given your conduct such gem of a post is inevitable. You want to discuss accountability of the military and compare India and Pakistan you are welcome to do so.



That is a ridiculous argument. No one criticizes the military, or the bureacracy or the post office or the FBI just for the sake of it. Certain actions of the government and it;s agaencies are accountable to scrutiny, whether its abu ghareb or gitmo, no media outlet has ever shied away from taking the government to task of misgivings of any of it's arm.

There is no constitutional medieval law like blasphemy law of Pakistan that is ever imposed upon any individual or organization for doing so.

Hi,

Okay---here it is---.

Blasphemy law is a fraud---. It is based on deceit and based on lies---.

But this blasphemy is taking roots in india---BJP version---the indian form of blasphemy law has arrived very very fast---full throttle---.
 
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So do I, Berkeley was just an example, If you chose to turn blind eye to the entirety of the post, thats your choice, wouldn't surprise me given the current crop of membership here.

here is DC
Vietnam


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Iraq
GTY-Marches05-jrl-170119_4x3_992.jpg
There have been protests and long marches against Pakistani military as well.
Our mainstream print and electronic media to this day criticize dictatorships and dictators starting from Ayub to Musharraf.
Need I reproduce articles from our newspapers which contain harsh criticisms of military and intelligence agencies? Or do I need to post the golden words with which Asima Jahangir used to describe military on the TV? Our media used to telecast interviews of Baloch separatist leaders and TTP heads on prime time. There are plenty of TV programs in which Musharraf's Kargil war has been criticized.

It's just that anti-Pakistani trolls and Indian keyboarders who criticize the Pak army just for the sake of it and spread lies post ludicurous stuff are rejected by the public these days---Even they are saying ehatever they want on social media.

Unlike India where military is a holy cow which is extolled for tying people on jeeps, in Pakistan, people openly criticize the military on media. Our media even blamed a serving general for attempted murder without any shred of evidence. Even blamed ISI for a terrorist attack in Ziarat. And that is mainstream media. Can US MSM even dare to do that?

At the end of the day, you are just another Indian who thinks that the Indian army has never done any wrong and it's always the evil Pakistanis. Your mentality is reflected by the lunatics you have elected. You will remain partisan on this issue and won't budge despite all the evidence to the contrary.
So long.
 
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There have been protests and long marches against Pakistani military as well.
Our mainstream print and electronic media to this day criticize dictatorships and dictators starting from Ayub to Musharraf.
Need I reproduce articles from our newspapers which contain harsh criticisms of military and intelligence agencies? Or do I need to post the golden words with which Asima Jahangir used to describe military on the TV? Our media used to telecast interviews of Baloch separatist leaders and TTP heads on prime time. There are plenty of TV programs in which Musharraf's Kargil war has been criticized.

It's just that anti-Pakistani trolls and Indian keyboarders who criticize the Pak army just for the sake of it and spread lies post ludicurous stuff are rejected by the public these days---Even they are saying ehatever they want on social media.

Unlike India where military is a holy cow which is extolled for tying people on jeeps, in Pakistan, people openly criticize the military on media. Our media even blamed a serving general for attempted murder without any shred of evidence. Even blamed ISI for a terrorist attack in Ziarat. And that is mainstream media. Can US MSM even dare to do that?

At the end of the day, you are just another Indian who thinks that the Indian army has never done any wrong and it's always the evil Pakistanis. Your mentality is reflected by the lunatics you have elected. You will remain partisan on this issue and won't budge despite all the evidence to the contrary.
So long.
Just Wow on the comprehension part.

I replied to Mastankhan on him equating criticism of American military to Blashphemy Law in Pakistan.
I reflected upon no such equalancy. You drew upon that as a commentary on state of Pakistans criticism of it's military and somehow mangled India into it? How?
 
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Just Wow on the comprehension part.

I replied to Mastankhan on him equating criticism of American military to Blashphemy Law in Pakistan.
I reflected upon no such equalancy. You drew upon that as a commentary on state of Pakistans criticism of it's military and somehow mangled India into it? How?
Unlike Pakistan there is neither medieval laws or a fear of a military junta to speak up against Military or any religion.
That was what you said and implied in other posts of yours as well. That has been whats been propogated by other Indians as well
 
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That was what you said and implied in other posts of yours as well. That has been whats been propogated by other Indians as well
Remind me again why Sharif's first term was terminated.
Anyways if you believe the military has released its chokehold on Pakistan's institutions, then gr88 for you.
 
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Remind me again why Sharif's first term was terminated.
Anyways if you believe the military has released its chokehold on Pakistan's institutions, then gr88 for you.
If you believe that the military industrial complex in the USA doesn't punish you if you cross their red lines then I have a bridge to sell you.

The CIA is deeply embedded in state level governments in the USA. If someone crosses certain red lines, the police will find their body in a hotel room with a suicide note.

I have been long saying that Pakistan needs institutions like the CIA and the Pentagon right away!

If anything, the Pakistani military isn't involved deep enough in governmental affairs. There is a huge list of people in Pakistan who deserve to be found with suicide notes.
 
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Remind me again why Sharif's first term was terminated.
You are jumping from one topic to another. So long.
One can also say remind me why Obama wasn't able to shut down Gitmo or wasn't allowed to.
This is not NK where one cannot criticize the regime or military and as I said earlier, media criticizes military every day. Infact the usurper himself was the one who gave private media channel licenses and allowed complete freedom of speech which even civil governments didn't allow.
 
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Takes a special kind of moron to drag India in a US conversation, but then again given your conduct such gem of a post is inevitable. You want to discuss accountability of the military and compare India and Pakistan you are welcome to do so.
whats wrong in discussing the prevalent fascism in Indian society ?The fact that you want to discuss Pakistans shortcomings but at the same time trying to hide Indians growing state sponsored extremism under the grab of "iTs nOt RelEvaNt tO toPiK" nullifies all your previous arguments you are a prime example of hypocrite Bakht
Fix your own house before you raise fingers at others
anyways
if belittling Pakistan helps your erectile dysfunction who am i to judge
in your nation Pakistan is even dragged into premarital pregnancies some blame ISI for the dishonor but once again not my monkey not my circus
 
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