Internal and external trolls both failing Pakistanis stand strong.

[VCheng]

If you believe that the military industrial complex in the USA doesn't punish you if you cross their red lines then I have a bridge to sell you.

The CIA is deeply embedded in state level governments in the USA. If someone crosses certain red lines, the police will find their body in a hotel room with a suicide note.

I have been long saying that Pakistan needs institutions like the CIA and the Pentagon right away!

If anything, the Pakistani military isn't involved deep enough in governmental affairs. There is a huge list of people in Pakistan who deserve to be found with suicide notes.

I think you are binge watching too many Jason Bourne type movies.

 

[Numerous]

If anything, the Pakistani military isn't involved deep enough in governmental affairs. There is a huge list of people in Pakistan who deserve to be found with suicide notes.

Would you support someone murdering one of your family members or murdering you and leaving a fake suicide note?

 

[delta2]

I think you are binge watching too many Jason Bourne type movies.

LOL I avoid watching movies and TV shows as much as possible. They're utterly useless and are propaganda tools.


That being said, if the CIA wasn't embedded in all levels of the government in the USA then I'd say America was run by fools.

That is not to say that the CIA and other intelligence agencies aren't embedded in all levels of governments in the USA. They are, as they should, and must, be!!

Would you support someone murdering one of your family members or murdering you and leaving a fake suicide note?

Treason has no family, or family members.

A traitor will eventually betray his/her own family and home.

The ideas and issues are more important and bigger than mere family feuds. Such emotional juxtaposing brings no clarity to one's mind. The point is that the survival of a whole damn state, and a nation at a larger degree, is at stake here.

 

[VCheng]

I'd say America was run by fools.

Clearly, you are correct.

 

[delta2]

Clearly, you are correct.

Americans are no fools, sir.

If anything, they're as cunning as one can get.

 

[VCheng]

Americans are no fools, sir.

If anything, they're as cunning as one can get.

Sir, everyone knows Murikans are fat, lazy and dumb. And broke, no money either.


(For cunning, try UK. Or may be China.)

 

[delta2]

Sir, everyone knows Murikans are fat, lazy and dumb. And broke, no money either.


(For cunning, try UK. Or may be China.)

Yes, the lower and most of the middle class Americans, that is true and applies generally.

When I say cunning I mean the American deep state. They are ever vigilant and will not hesitate to do whatever needs to be done for the well being of their country. There will never be a Nawaz Sharif or a Zardari in the USA because their deep state isn't asleep like the Pakistani one.

 

[BATMAN]

I'm glad to see the genocide mafia has no choice but to keep their mouth shut or even praise Pak army. Loving the situation.

 

[HAIDER]

Yes, the Pakistan military is beyond all criticism. Of course. Such is the power of the narrative.

I think Asif Ghafoor in his last press conference pretty much sum the meaning of criticism and constructive criticism and pointing out the mistakes.

 

[VCheng]

Yes, the lower and most of the middle class Americans, that is true and applies generally.

When I say cunning I mean the American deep state. They are ever vigilant and will not hesitate to do whatever needs to be done for the well being of their country. There will never be a Nawaz Sharif or a Zardari in the USA because their deep state isn't asleep like the Pakistani one.

Well, when PDF claims the the Army and the ISI are only a product of the society from which they arise, then the same rule should apply to US society: a fat dumb and lazy society cannot give rise to an ever vigilant "deep state".

I think Asif Ghafoor in his last press conference pretty much sum the meaning of criticism and constructive criticism and pointing out the mistakes.

Yes, the Army remains above all criticism. It is all good for the country, you know, no matter what it does.

 

[HAIDER]

Well, when PDF claims the the Army and the ISI are only a product of the society from which they arise, then the same rule should apply to US society: a fat dumb and lazy society cannot give rise to an ever vigilant "deep state".



Yes, the Army remains above all criticism. It is all good for the country, you know, no matter what it does.

sarcasm .... ??

 

[VCheng]

sarcasm .... ??

Not really. This is what the good General seems to be saying per his statements: "the Army remains above all criticism. It is all good for the country, you know, no matter what it does." Do you disagree?

 

[B.K.N]

Not really. This is what the good General seems to be saying per his statements: "the Army remains above all criticism. It is all good for the country, you know, no matter what it does." Do you disagree?

Yeh aap ko external troll keh rhay hain

Army and the ISI are only a product of the society

Army is not product of society but I think it's the only institution which is not affected by society or is least affected

US society: a fat dumb and lazy society

Is it true looking at photos of us soldiers they look very muscular and athletic compared to Pakistani soldiers

 

[Shane]

The debate of involvement by security forces in the political realm and how the Bhutto Government was brought down and its negative impact that still hurt the country in the shape of Sharifs and Zardaris and Mushy the dictator who compromised with the corrupt using NRO is no secret.

That there is realization in the rank and file that the monsters of corruption and political mutation nurtured over the decades need to be put behind bars is nothing short of a miracle and a light at the end of the dark narrow tunnel this nation has been going through since the Martial Law of General Zia.

Pakistan needs to punish the economic terrorists who have buried the economy under foreign debt and turned our economy into an import based economy by all but destroying the local export industry.

That the narrative of corrupt mutant politicians has become alligned with that of the enemies of Pakistan like India over the years is no secret either.

This inevitable alignment between anti Pakistan elements has turned the tied even more against the corrupt politicians as patriotic democratic people of Pakistan have proved that they will never go against Pakistan's security forces. (And hence the ongoing futile yet still well backed agenda of PTM etc)

That's why we see the corrupt politicians are caught in a fix as they are not willing to admit to their economic crimes and surrender their loot but they want Pakistan Army to continue to look the other way if not provide them protection they had gotten used to for decades.

The above debate aside...Posted the following about the ongoing social media shenanigans against the state in another thread, it seems appropriate to share the same here too.

For a refresher course after every few months, of who are allied where, toeing what agenda and with what goal in mind, I visit twitter accounts of the notorious "libtards" the likes of Gul Bukhari, Ayesha Siddiqua, Hussain haqqani and politicians of PMLN, PPP, PTM and the sleaze bags like Waqas Goraya etc etc and see what they are sharing, with who and at what level.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1142495811558940678

The comraderie and rapport among libtards, the corrupt politicians, the islamophobic, and the anti state elements becomes evident that they are seeking refuge more and more among one another and have become all but part of the same pie.

That their mantra rhymes with that of Indian narrative against Pakistan on world stage is as evident as daylight and nothing new but their coming together on social media against the present government should be an eye opener for ordinary Pakistanis and specially the lovers of Qeemay walay naan.

This is not a random comment. It has slowly become more and more crystal clear, they have become complacent over time and have let their true anti state colors show more and more.


@Arsalan @Dubious @BHarwana @Tps43 @Khafee @ghazi52 @PakSword @Farah Sohail @Zibago @IceCold @Moonlight @Path-Finder @war&peace

 

[VCheng]

Army is not product of society but I think it's the only institution which is not affected by society or is least affected

Where does this Army come from if not from the society of which it is a part?