Internal and external trolls both failing Pakistanis stand strong.

[Cuirassier]

Pakistanis have short term memory loss. Evident in some posts in this thread.

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

No different than the US military---. Try bad mouthing US military at work for a weak---and let us see if someone has a job---and if they can get a future job---here in the USA---.

No different that the US military? How many times has the US military deposed its national elected government, suspended the Constitution and declared Martial Law? Just like the Pakistani military?

 

[criticalerror]

I see 5th generation warfare is in full swing... with plenty of casualties..

 

[Verve]

No power on earth can undo the Idea of Pakistan!

This Idea lives in our hearts.. not result of conditioning or prapoganda... it lives in our hearts because it is us i.e. Paks.

We are Paks. Pak is Our Land. From Valley to Gawadar...

It is the Idea of Pakistan that Kashmiris are chanting, dying for and are buried with.

Our Flag is reptresentation of this Idea.

Even without any one calling for it. It is always there.

When was a Pak national leader after our first Prime Minister chantting it? None.

And yet the Idea of Pakistan is alive and well.....growing stronger everyday.

Any doubt? Go to the least developed part of Balochistan and you shall find Pak Flag.. mostly hand made, fluttering in the wind.

Now just wait for 14th August ... it is going to be bombastic.... from small childeren to oldest person... from Valley to Gawadar once again.... Pakistan Zindabad!

14 August is our special Eid!


#MarasiMedia #DieselMullahs #DollarKhoorLibtards #FakeEthnoNationalists all bite the dust on 14th of August every year and the feeling is growing stronger.

Pak's enemies must fear the day when a truly Nationalist Leader comes forward and only talks and acts in Pak's interests...

All we Paks want is to be left alone and live in Peace.

Why our enemies are bent-as-hell to make us wake up from our favourite drink... sattoo?

Wasn't 27th enough?

We said wait for our #SurpriseDay

We came in broad daylight.

And we put the danda... we left!


#DontMessWithPakistan

why don't we also celebrate 27th Ramadan as Pakistan Independence day ...

No different that the US military? How many times has the US military deposed its national elected government, suspended the Constitution and declared Martial Law? Just like the Pakistani military?

Assassinated a US president, then his brother.

Forced Presidents to start wars all over the world. Look at Trump alone, he's going back on everything he said during election campaign because the military complex wants him too.

Pentagon forms the foreign policy in USA.

Above it all though, Zionist run USA. US Presidents are all puppets.

 

[TheSeeker]

I agree with many folks here.Reality does not matter much.Narrative overrides realities.When majority of people still believe in fairy tails/God heaven and hell(narrative set by someone once) bs crap without even knowing the reality.I can say that narrative overrides reality.

 

[Rusty]

No different that the US military? How many times has the US military deposed its national elected government, suspended the Constitution and declared Martial Law? Just like the Pakistani military?

I mean... they do it to other countries all the time.


I feel bad for the Pak military.
They are the only institution that works in Pakistan.
So when politicians make a mess of things the military has 2 options.
1. sit by and watch the country crumble.
or
2. interfere for short term gain but long term harm.

The thing I want to criticize the military for is not going hard against political criminals. That is the biggest sin they have committed in my books.

 

[VCheng]

I mean... they do it to other countries all the time.


I feel bad for the Pak military.
They are the only institution that works in Pakistan.
So when politicians make a mess of things the military has 2 options.
1. sit by and watch the country crumble.
or
2. interfere for short term gain but long term harm.

The thing I want to criticize the military for is not going hard against political criminals. That is the biggest sin they have committed in my books.

But the Pakistan military should be above all criticism or scrutiny per the contention in the OP. Any attempt at doing so is immediately labeled as unpatriotic or worse.

So, the crux of whole argument is reality doesn't matter as long as people believe in the narrative presented to them.

I can agree with that premise, since the people of Pakistan have the right to determine the direction of their country. If they decide to keep the Army above all else, then so be it. Just be aware that such exalted claims often have a crash landing at the end, as we have seen many times before in the country's history.

 

[BHarwana]

But the Pakistan military should be above all criticism or scrutiny per the contention in the OP. Any attempt at doing so is immediately labeled as unpatriotic or worse.

Why do you want to make such fake attempts. If the Fifth gen war is failing against Pakistan and devices plans of Soro's group fail isn't it good?
If Pakistani people lable such attemps fake that is because they are fake and people have enough awareness to give a shut call to such attempts.

 

[B.K.N]

But the Pakistan military should be above all criticism or scrutiny per the contention in the OP. Any attempt at doing so is immediately labeled as unpatriotic or worse.

Anyone who criticizes army while army is fighting at multiple fronts is traitor

 

[VCheng]

Why do you want to make such fake attempts. If the Fifth gen war is failing against Pakistan and devices plans of Soro's group fail isn't it good?
If Pakistani people lable such attemps fake that is because they are fake and people have enough awareness to give a shut call to such attempts.

The claims of a 5th generation war are being peddled only to divert attention from the real issues of a failing economy, dismal governance and mounting social issues.

 

[B.K.N]

The claims of a 5th generation war are being peddled only to divert attention from the real issues of a failing economy, dismal governance and mounting social issues.

How much you get paid for anti Pakistan propaganda

 

[El Sidd]

How much you get paid for anti Pakistan propaganda

Mountain of persian fur

 

[SIPRA]

I can agree with that premise, since the people of Pakistan have the right to determine the direction of their country. If they decide to keep the Army above all else, then so be it. Just be aware that such exalted claims often have a crash landing at the end, as we have seen many times before in the country's history.

You have arrived at a correct conclusion. In my view, there are two reasons:

1) Somehow, it is the predominant collective psyche of the people of Pakistan, that army has gained such a control in the matters of the state.
2) Politicians have grossly failed to provide an alternative narrative, owing primarily to their utter lack of any character and credibility.

Army has proven to be a far better and stronger institution than the political parties; though this course is not at all politically desirable and advisable, in this modern world.

But the Pakistan military should be above all criticism or scrutiny per the contention in the OP. Any attempt at doing so is immediately labeled as unpatriotic or worse.

Ignore it. Keep on posting, what you think to be right.

 

[VCheng]

You have arrived at a correct conclusion. In my view, there are two reasons:

1) Somehow, it is the predominant collective psyche of the people of Pakistan, that army has gained such a control in the matters of the state.
2) Politicians have grossly failed to provide an alternative narrative, owing primarily to their utter lack of any character and credibility.

Army has proven to be a far better and stronger institution than the political parties; though this course is not at all politically desirable and advisable, in this modern world.

The Army has achieved its position of illegal dominance by actively undermining every other state institution, let us be clear. However, this also means it is the only institution that remains effective - but only up to a point and only for serving its own needs. Pakistan pays the price, just take a look at the state of affairs in the country.

 

[Verve]

The claims of a 5th generation war are being peddled

It's not a claim you traitor, it's a reality.

Using local media to internally weaken a country is in the operations manual of US special forces.

The US policy of breaking the Pak public from the army was formulated in 1998. Media is the major tool of this 5G warfare.