India cannot defeat Pakistan militarily

[Imran Khan]

 

[game]

If there was no military there would be no country in the first place.

This is what army and it's machinery made to believe . There are many countries that does not have military or just nominal military and still they are prospering ..ex: Switzerland

Pakistan is security state..even if Kashmir issue is resolved, they open another issue to keep the military relevant and above the country !

 

[Imran Khan]

This is what army and it's machinery made to believe . There are many countries that does not have military or just nominal military and still they are prospering ..ex: Switzerland

Pakistan is security state..even if Kashmir issue is resolved, they open another issue to keep the military relevant and above the country !

pakistan is unsafe because of this rouge military and thier actions . remember they have ruled directly 33 years .

 

[villageidiot]

If there was no military there would be no country in the first place.

Pakistan was made by lawyers and politicians, not generals. It is one of the very few, if not the only, nation state that was formed without fighting a war.

 

[villageidiot]

Have hope. Have faith in Allah. That's all I can say

That we do. However, we do not have an ounce of faith in the generals anymore.

 

[Areesh]

welcome back bhai


we hope india defeat paksitani corrupt army once for all . it should be total defeat and divide Pakistan into 5 countries .

Tum phir sharab pi kar forum par aa gaye?

 

[NagaBaba]

Tum phir sharab pi kar forum par aa gaye?

truth serum

 

[CONNAN]

At this stage why should India even Engage with Pak when you own destroying it from inside . all we need to do is sit and watch the course of events and leave it be.

 

[Trango Towers]

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[Kaniska]

A lot of Indians don't realize that Pakistan doesn't have to win against India in a war, it just has to make sure it doesn't lose and that India doesn't win. Stalemate itself is a victory for Pakistan, because any Indian invasion would collapse in such a scenario.

You don't have to be good at your job, you just have to be good enough.

Same is applicable for India too…Unless Pakistan attack and initiate a war and win additional territory of JK, line of control will be eventually an international border. Pakistan can not take back Kashmir without initiating a war…And India will do the fancy noise like occupying Pakistan part of Kashmir to ensure Pakistan do not initiate any war.

The one place militarily where India truly dwarfs Pk capability is the navy.

Huge coastline, + an increasingly assertive China, even in the seas, has forced the Indian strategic calculus to go that way.

Some say that a Rafale follow up order will very likely be placed, and might be in the middle of negotiations. 36 more, then another 36.

You guys are missing the big player in this entire conflict…Uncle SAM will not allow neither India or Pakistan to initiate any full scale war…US wish to see India focous on China rather than Pakistan…If India is seen as an agressor, US will indirectly pressure us to back out from war.

 

[NooriNuth]

India is the economical shoopah phawa. Yet Indian illegally going to USA

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[nahtanbob]

monkeys on top on both sides

 

[Catalystic]

Lol all this defeatist and irrelevant analysis.

There is a very specific Hadith of our Holy Prophet(pbuh):

“Pehle tum ehl-e-kufr-e-hind se Jung kerogay aur Fatah paogay, phir Shaam mei Maryum(AS) ke Betay ka Saath do gay”.
Golden times ahead. I trust my Prophet Muhammad SAW rather than these defeatist mindsets.

Ofcourse Ghazwa e Hind is next. Pakistan will cleanse itself and be victorious and WILL become THE place of world decisions inshAllah.

The small shit talk about economies, etc is all bullshit. Our country is not even built for these small stuff, we’re big leagues man

While all this appears a dream or wishful thinking to many, but I 100% believe its coming soon, and we will take the losses if corrupt traitors happily. Pakistan will rise to its full potential. There is enough stuff buried that will be out once the right man becomes the leader of the country(will rise thru that war, and NOT khan or current corrupt assholes).

You don’t wanna believe the words of the Holy Prophet(pbuh), go right ahead, thsts you and your faith.
All this negativity and defeatist attitude, kisi ne kehdiya to maan lein?

Ki Muhammad (saw) se wafa Tu ne to Hum teray hain
Ye Jahan cheez hai kya Loh o Qalam teray hain

The west and even india/hindutva are on decline. End times. Very soon irrelevant. Lol even covid19, hurricane Katrina, tsunamis was a glimpse of so-called great(shit) economies. The sheer WILL of Allah swt trumps all.

 

[K_Bin_W]

India can't even take on BDesh let alone Pak. Enuff said.

 

[Sayfullah]

This implies that there is an alternative strategy, of standing straight, or of not being fearful.

The reality is that an economically weak Pakistan has no options. None.

It will get worse.

The thought of stopping a hypothetical deep Indian strike by counter-attacking at a number of points, and refusing to use tactical nuclear devices on Pakistani soil, is a thought for a normal situation, and a normal environment. The situation is not normal. It is skewed, irrevocably, in favour of India.

In real life, India has the industrial capacity to increase ammunition production, armoured vehicle production, missile production and generic ordnance and armaments. This has not been done because a poor nation has far more important economic and industrial objectives than this kind of preparation for an extended war. The fact remains that there is sufficient capacity, in financial terms, and sufficient hunger for new markets and new products in Indian industry for expansion to take place.

The idea of a number of new fronts being opened as a counter by Pakistan is no longer possible. The PA cannot march onto Indian soil; it has to drive there. Those of us who comment on these matters from the safety of the sidelines need to remind ourselves of the ability of the PA to move its armoured formations and its mechanised infantry into the distances needed to penetrate Indian borders. There is not enough fuel, not enough supplies - there is no point in invoking an emotional response by spelling out the brutal realities - to move, and on the other hand, there is the capacity to build several armoured divisions to stop all such efforts comprehensively.

Pakistan's greatest advantage is the sheer stupidity of the Indian political leadership. It is good at raising mobs, organising riots and maltreating its minorities, and nothing more. Its economic policies have failed, its foreign policies have failed, its social policies are marked by the most mediaeval regressive attitude - who in that collection of narrow-minded bigots, intent on proving themselves the intellectual equivalents of their hated predecessors, will sit down and work out what needs to be done over a five year period to fight a war? No one.

There will be no war, as @SoulSpokesman has pointed out with relish, unless the Pakistani leadership does something incredibly stupid.

Unfortunately, that stupidity cannot be ruled out. That possibility cannot be ruled out. And that is where the matter rests, very uneasily.


We are so clever.

How did Pakistan become economically weak? Cuz afaik Pakistan was pretty economically strong. How did the economy get worse? Mainly because power hungry coward individuals supported by corrupt establishment. Fear is no policy means fear is no policy. It means Pakistan following its own interests alone without giving a shit about anyone else. It means making sound decisions and planning long term. It means fully committing to any action that the country took no matter how many times usa calls. Pakistanis rulers have been making blunders on blunders that’s why Pakistan’s economy isn’t like South Korea 2.0. They surrendered wherever they could, gave into fear on every decision, and ignored the county’s interests.
But even now, economy won’t stay in ruins forever. Pakistan is a nation of 240 million with immense natural resource wealth and huge potential. All it will take is a good Pakistani leader who can lead Pakistan. But Pakistan has adopted a policy of fear and surrender when it comes to india or any of Pakistans enemies. Even if economy was bad the current policy of fear and surrender is not justifiable.