Xi has picked a border fight with India that China cannot win

[beijingwalker]

American intelligence & weapons is enough for India to fight a 2 front war against China and Pakistan.

You think too much about yourself, your ammos are running low and you don't even have a capable industrial base to produce enough.

 

[nahtanbob]

You think too much about yourself, your ammos are running low and you don't even have a capable industrial base to produce enough.

If Ukraine can fight Russia to a standstill you need to think - not only about India but also Taiwan

 

[beijingwalker]

If Ukraine can fight Russia to a standstill you need to think - not only about India but also Taiwan

And Afghanistan, lol, the imaginary wars only exist in Americans minds and media, we don't see any wars here.

 

[ARMalik]

End of the day Xi is a dictator and he loves supporting other dictators such as those sitting in Pakistan. The reason he wants to pick a fight with India is because India refuses to listen to this Dictator Xi. And although I am not a big fan of india, I respect the fact that India wants to make its own decisions and refuses to be dictated by this Dictator Xi.

 

[CIA Mole]

chief international relations expert terror xi could have made more friends but decided to piss everyone off for some reason most realists can't understand

even north korea/russia dont trust him

 

[RealDeal]

Open a map

look at where Indian water supply comes from

The end

Learn how a river works, its not a tap that can be shut on and off. Both Indus and Brahmaputra rivers start as barely trickles in the dry tibetan plateau and gain water along the way due to rainfall, glaciers, millions of tiny streams, dozens of tributaries on the Indian side.

This pic just about sums it up. This is the Brahmaputra river, even in Arunachal Pradesh it is barely a trickle gains water in the southern mountains of the state and northern assam due to Indian monsoon and then becomes a monster. There is literally nothing on the Chinese side except a few tiny streams which i would have to zoom in 100x to even see.

But even if that wasn't the case,

Indus river passes a couple of northern Indian states, but 250 million Pakistanis depend on it for everything in their lives .Even if it was possible to divert it, not only would India nuke you, but also Pakistan and maybe US might join in for the fun of it. It would be total 3 way gangbang like in Nanking.

Similarly

Brahmaputra river again passes through a couple of Indian states, but 150 million Bangladeshis depend on it for everything in their lives. Now they dont have nukes and all, but their sheer numbers will do the job. Not only will India nuke every Chinese city, but also millions of Indian and tens of millions of angry Bangladeshis will invade China and end the matter right there.

 

[LeGenD]

Look, I have never hyped India, but I can see that India is becoming a stronger and capable side with American (and Russian) support.

Chinese military capability and technology allowed it to operate in Galwan and similar regions. But India was able to do this with American helicopters and Russian tanks.

India is also developing advanced ballistic missiles and cruise missiles.

Like this or not, India is an emerging giant and it is developing the capability to fight a war if necessary.

 

[zhxy]

Look, I have never hyped India, but I can see that India is becoming a stronger and capable side with American (and Russian) support.

Chinese military capability and technology allowed it to operate in Galwan and similar regions. But India was able to do this with American helicopters and Russian tanks.

India is also developing advanced ballistic missiles and cruise missiles.

Like this or not, India is an emerging giant and it is developing the capability to fight a war if necessary.

Underestimating the enemy is a terrible mistake.
Unfortunately, no one can avoid this mistake.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

Good Luck

https://twitter.com/x/status/1678992585178886144

 

[fitpOsitive]

The international focus on the war in Ukraine has helped obscure the China-India military confrontation, which has led to rival force build-ups and intermittent clashes. For more than three years, the two Asian giants have been locked in a tense military standoff along their disputed Himalayan frontier.

The risk of this confrontation escalating to intense bloody clashes or even a limited border war can no longer be discounted, given the large-scale forward military deployments by both sides.

An opposite scenario is also conceivable. If Chinese President Xi Jinping were to visit New Delhi for the Group of Twenty (G20) summit in September, the trip could catalyze efforts to defuse the dangerous confrontation, which was triggered by China’s stealth territorial encroachments into the northernmost Indian territory of Ladakh in April-May 2020.

India failed to foresee the Chinese aggression largely because Prime Minister Narendra Modi had been focused on appeasing Beijing in order to chip away at the China-Pakistan axis. Mr. Xi, though, seriously miscalculated that China would be able to impose the changed territorial status quo on India as a fait accompli, without inviting a robust military response.

India has locked horns with China by more than matching Chinese force deployments. Even at the risk of sparking a full-scale war, India is openly challenging Chinese power and capability in a way that no other country has done in this century.

Discomfited by the strong Indian military challenge, Mr. Xi’s regime has sought to exert greater pressure on India by deploying more Chinese forces in offensive positions, constructing new warfare infrastructure along the frontier, and mounting infowar and psychological operations.

All this, however, risks making a permanent enemy of India, including driving it closer to the United States. Such a scenario is antithetical to China’s long-term interests. U.S. President Joe Biden’s courtship of India, and the pomp and attention he recently lavished on Mr. Modi during a state visit to the U.S., have increased Beijing’s suspicion that New Delhi is drawing closer to Washington to help blunt China.

After China’s border aggression began, New Delhi concluded the last of four foundational defence-related agreements that Washington regularly puts in place with military allies. India has also more closely integrated into the Quad arrangement with Washington, Tokyo and Canberra. And the India-initiated annual Malabar naval war games now include all the Quad partners.

The military standoff with India, meanwhile, leaves Mr. Xi with less room to accomplish what he has called a “historic mission” – the incorporation of Taiwan. India is aiding Taiwan’s defence by tying down a complete Chinese theatre force, which could otherwise be employed against that island democracy.

As Admiral Michael Gilday, the U.S. Navy’s chief of naval operations, put it last year, the standoff presents China with a “two-front” problem: “They [Indians] now force China to not only look east, toward the South China Sea and the Taiwan Strait, but they now have to be looking over their shoulder at India.”

More fundamentally, Mr. Xi has picked a border fight with India that China cannot win. While the Chinese military relies heavily on conscripts, India, with an all-volunteer force, has the world’s most-experienced troops for mountain warfare.

A war between the two nuclear-armed demographic titans would likely end in a bloody stalemate, which would be seen internationally as a defeat for the stronger side, China. That would seriously damage Mr. Xi’s image.

So, if the confrontation with India were to escalate, Mr. Xi could risk being hoisted with his own petard.

Against this backdrop, would Mr. Xi be willing to find ways to defuse the military crisis with India?

The Sept. 9-10 G20 summit will bring together world leaders, including U.S. President Joe Biden, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and possibly Russian President Vladimir Putin. However, at a time when tens of thousands of troops on each side are facing off on the Himalayan massif, it would be odd if Mr. Xi visited New Delhi without seeking to defuse the border confrontation.

At the past G20 summit in Bali, Mr. Xi and Mr. Modi briefly interacted at a cultural event in front of television cameras, but did not hold a private meeting, as each did with other leaders.

The only way to end the military standoff is through a deal to implement a sequential process of disengagement, de-escalation and de-induction of rival forces. The details of such a deal could be hammered out through military-to-military talks.

Mr. Xi, however, seems caught in a military crisis of his own making. He may want to resolve the crisis, but without losing face. His efforts to compel India to buckle have come a cropper. This means that any compromise settlement would require that Mr. Xi climb down to some extent.

Opinion: Xi has picked a border fight with India that China cannot win

Would the Chinese President be willing to find ways to defuse the military crisis at the G20 meeting in New Delhi?

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You know what, one side effect of becoming a super power is that country fights wars that this country doesn't want to win.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1678987083325620224

 

[GamoAccu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1678987083325620224

They are still better than these Indian soldiers.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

China can clearly win their limited confrontation with India. The real question is at what cost. Chinese diplomats are probably calculating what is the cost of acquiring a few god forsaken valleys in the Himalayas versus their other interests

The cost would be very big if go nuclear war.

They will back to 100 years, compared to the West

At border conflict, what china got really? Nothing..

It forced india to work more on border infrastructure and deployed the same level of army. They were never allowed to use arms, they got the green signal... Before, china were having the free walk near the borders, now it is highly restricted.

 

[etylo]

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All you Indians can show is a lone Chinese communication soldier got gang beaten up by you coward Indian soldiers.