India burning

[namefield_empty]

But she was asked to speak about CAA, even then she bashed BD and Pakistan.

CAA is about the settlement of persecuted refugees and the history of their ordeal they had to go through in their respective countries. Ms Nasrin merely highlighted the basic facts. Are you to deny that the Hindus and ethnic tribals weren't persecuted in Bangladesh?

Let us remember Govind Pansare, Narendra Dabholkar, M.M.Kalburgi and Gauri Lankesh who were all assassinated by Sangh people.

That is hearsay. Anyway, they were reformers to many in India and their contribution to our society is duly noted by our government. Unlike Avijit and co who were outrightly rejected by their own people and government.

 

[jamahir]

Why has @humbl. been banned ??

@waz

 

[SIPRA]

Why has @humbl. been banned ??

@waz

I am also wondering.

 

[jamahir]

That is hearsay.

So who killed them ?? The ISI ??

Unlike Avijit and co who were outrightly rejected by their own people and government.

How do you know that ??

I quote this Wikipedia page :

Bangladesh police arrested Jamaat-e-Islami chief and former Industry Minister Matiur Rahman Nizami from his residence in the capital in a graft case on 19 May 2008 and was charged with war crimes in 2009. He was hanged to death on 11 May 2016. Earlier, two former Cabinet Ministers of the immediate past BNP-led alliance government, Abdul Mannan Bhuiyan and Shamsul Islam were sent to Dhaka Central Jail after they surrendered before the court. As a result, in the parliamentary elections of December 2008, Jamaat-e-Islami garnered fewer than 5 seats out of the total 300 that constitute the national parliament. The Bangladesh Nationalist Party was concerned, as Jamaat-e-Islami had been their primary political partner in the Four-Party Alliance

 

[namefield_empty]

How do you know that ??

Lol, AFAIK , the murderers of Avijit were homegrown radicals associated with ABT and AQ. The Bangladeshi Jamatis here would tear you apart for bringing up the name of their beloved deceased leader out of context..

 

[jamahir]

Lol, AFAIK , the murderers of Avijit were homegrown radicals associated with ABT and AQ.

I am not disputing that. What I am saying is Bangladesh is not like Afghanistan overrun by Taliban-types.

@Bilal9

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And let's turn the discussion back to India.

 

[namefield_empty]

I am not disputing that. What I am saying is Bangladesh is not like Afghanistan overrun by Taliban-types.

That shouldn't have been our problem to deal with had they not spilt over into our territory. The moment they did, it became India's concern and we need to drive these radicals back.

 

[jamahir]

That shouldn't have been our problem to deal with had they not spilt over into our territory. The moment they did, it became India's concern and we need to drive these radicals back.

Radicals of all religious denominations should be dealt with by iron hand. India should strive to be the Secular and Socialist republic that the Preamble to the Constitution promises.

 

[namefield_empty]

India should strive to be the Secular and Socialist republic that the Preamble to the Constitution promises.

India has always been a secular country even before the word was forcibly inserted into our Preamble, that was something ingrained in our civilization. Only difference being that sham secularism at the cost of appeasement politics will not be the norm now.

 

[xeuss]

India has always been a secular country even before the word was forcibly inserted into our Preamble, that was something ingrained in our civilization. Only difference being that sham secularism at the cost of appeasement politics will not be the norm now.

Now just the politics of hate, murder, pogroms and ultimately genocide will rule. Cheered on by people like you.

 

[prashantazazel]

North eastern people have a justified reason for xenophobia. Their societies are generally more progressive than most Indian states, and Bangladesh.
I find their demand of not allowing outsiders quite reasonable.
But there should be no religious differentiation between those who are expelled.

 

[xeuss]

North eastern people have a justified reason for xenophobia. Their societies are generally more progressive than most Indian states, and Bangladesh.
I find their demand of not allowing outsiders quite reasonable.
But there should be no religious differentiation between those who are expelled.

I disagree with your position because it is based on the premise that culture/society never evolves. It does, and that is what people are afraid of, whether they are in the Northeast of India or Germany or Nigeria.

The correct response should be, cultures always get enriched by other cultures, and they should not fear "others". The concept of the nation state really added more fuel to the fire (than it needed), but emphasizing nationhood as something that was primary, and therefore its concept (read as culture/language etc), needed to be protected and maintained.

If you were to dig further into the history of the culture in the Northeast, they did evolve over time, perhaps not as rapidly, but they did. And with the advent of information (phone/internet/tv) these cultures will evolve further without even the existence of other cultures within their midst.

 

[jamahir]

ndia has always been a secular

Not in the correct spirit.

The secularism in Modern India basically is "I will tolerate your religious nonsense as long as you tolerate my religious nonsense".

ndia has always been a secular country even before the word was forcibly inserted into our Preamble

Do you have complaint with that ??

Only difference being that sham secularism at the cost of appeasement politics will not be the norm now.

The BJP is the largest appeasement movement in the world. Appeasing to majoritarian sentiment. Its membership alone is 180 million according to Wikipedia.

 

[waz]

Why has @humbl. been banned ??

@waz

No idea. I’ll have a look.

 

[El Sidd]

There is alot of tension in the Indian diaspora as reality of civil war hits them.