HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[Ali Zadi]

This is not a joke anymore Tejas will have to defend against the J20 which has a role of deep penetration among other roles speculated. It is expected that the J20 is multi role but given the size and the complexity a deep penetration role is a given. If stealth is enough for the S400 "Long range" it will be upto Tejas MK1A to track and disable.

Yes the 30MKI and Rafale are also in play but they are not meant for point defense in war time. Griphen NG stands a better footing than the F16 for a similar role because of radar and mostly because of wider missile choices. Its a pity that the needed pace is not being carried out with Tejas otherwise it is certainly a better option to the std F16 configuration with respect to Indian conditions.

 

[AMCA]

This is not a joke anymore Tejas will have to defend against the J20 which has a role of deep penetration among other roles speculated. It is expected that the J20 is multi role but given the size and the complexity a deep penetration role is a given. If stealth is enough for the S400 "Long range" it will be upto Tejas MK1A to track and disable.

Yes the 30MKI and Rafale are also in play but they are not meant for point defense in war time. Griphen NG stands a better footing than the F16 for a similar role because of radar and mostly because of wider missile choices. Its a pity that the needed pace is not being carried out with Tejas otherwise it is certainly a better option to the std F16 configuration with respect to Indian conditions.

Why Tejas when there are hundreds of SU-30's to defend the skies against heavy enemy air aggression. If J-20's were to be ever used, I dont think SU-30's would be pressed into SEAD/DEAD missions.

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

This is not a joke anymore Tejas will have to defend against the J20 which has a role of deep penetration among other roles speculated. It is expected that the J20 is multi role but given the size and the complexity a deep penetration role is a given. If stealth is enough for the S400 "Long range" it will be upto Tejas MK1A to track and disable.

Yes the 30MKI and Rafale are also in play but they are not meant for point defense in war time. Griphen NG stands a better footing than the F16 for a similar role because of radar and mostly because of wider missile choices. Its a pity that the needed pace is not being carried out with Tejas otherwise it is certainly a better option to the std F16 configuration with respect to Indian conditions.

are you a kid? do you know how to scare kids? tell them stories of fiery dragons...J20 is a Dragon....dont be fooled by the facade/tamasha on the display.

 

[nang2]

http://m.indiatoday.in/story/manhohar-parrikar-dac-army-aircraft-helicopters-drones/1/803569.html

credibility of this news? what about the price tag of LCA quoted?

 

[Hindustani78]

Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), which is set to meet tomorrow, Sources said other issues on the agenda will be a formal nod to IAF's programme to acquire 83 new version of Light Combat Aircraft Tejas, a number which has been publicly stated by the Defence Ministry earlier.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

http://m.indiatoday.in/story/manhohar-parrikar-dac-army-aircraft-helicopters-drones/1/803569.html

credibility of this news? what about the price tag of LCA quoted?

Around 35 million $-

 

[nang2]

Around 35 million $-

where did you get this number? that news mentioned a project cost as 48000 crore, which confuses me, since it translates to $90+ million.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

where did you get this number? that news mentioned a project cost as 48000 crore, which confuses me, since it translates to $90+ million.

Mk1A is not developed yet- It will feature AESA radar, Integrated EW system along with new weapons, possibly the cockpit area will also include larger HUD and touch screens like in 5th gen planes- Development phase is being kept secret- So we know little- The amount quoted might include the development costs which will have foreign assistance-

The price of Mk1 is 30 million $ with more time consuming work- Mk1A will have proper production line means the cost will drop but adding advanced radar and other accessories It might go up to 35 million $ or 40 million $ at most-

 

[nang2]

Mk1A is not developed yet- It will feature AESA radar, Integrated EW system along with new weapons, possibly the cockpit area will also include larger HUD and touch screens like in 5th gen planes- Development phase is being kept secret- So we know little- The amount quoted might include the development costs which will have foreign assistance-

The price of Mk1 is 30 million $ with more time consuming work- Mk1A will have proper production line means the cost will drop but adding advanced radar and other accessories It might go up to 35 million $ or 40 million $ at most-

wait, an order of 83 fighter jets that have not been developed?

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

wait, an order of 83 fighter jets that have not been developed?

Yes you can say that- It is an assurance to the manufacturer to go ahead and develop the plane- customer will buy 83 units- Its actually customization of Mk1 not really a new development-

 

[nang2]

Yes you can say that- It is an assurance to the manufacturer to go ahead and develop the plane- customer will buy 83 units- Its actually customization of Mk1 not really a new development-

make sense. it is more like an initial investment plus order intention (dangling carrots) than a batch order.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

make sense. it is more like an initial investment plus order intention (dangling carrots) than a batch order.

Here local industry is sometimes fed up with this foreign customer attitude of forces- They behave like they are dealing with a foreign supplier at times due to vested interests of some broker they behave even roughly- When they should be assisting local producers for what they want final product to be-

So the local producer wants some assurances before putting their money into It- This order is actually arm twisting done by Defense Minister and forcing them to buy local- Or they were happy with 126 Rafale- Perhaps he told them more rafale will only come If you people buy local-

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

Tejas carrying out a roll during #AeroIndia 2015
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"Expanding the operational boundaries"

From the archives of Detachment 2014 ..

KH -2014, seen here, is flying with a 725 centreline drop tank. The integration, the jettison characteristics and the general handling with this drop tank were tested in 2014 and will certainly enhance the flying range with two wing mounted drop tanks.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

make sense. it is more like an initial investment plus order intention (dangling carrots) than a batch order.

This kinda practice is commonplace- espeically when it's done to support domestic projects

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

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