HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[aman_rai]

FOC is delayed to Jun 2017 to Dec 2017, but it will now be for LCA MK1P, which will have weight reduction (600 to 1000kgs), internal relocation and fusion of LRUs for easy maintenance, OBOGS, hopefully AESA (elta 2052) radar, Additional fuel, EW suit, Jammers, and standardized production.

Haad ho gaya bhai...

 

[Sliver]

FOC is delayed to Jun 2017 to Dec 2017, but it will now be for LCA MK1P, which will have weight reduction (600 to 1000kgs), internal relocation and fusion of LRUs for easy maintenance, OBOGS, hopefully AESA (elta 2052) radar, Additional fuel, EW suit, Jammers, and standardized production.

2 years of testing to see which foreign vendor will contract to produce 200 single engined aircraft in India
LCA will be still under "FOC" adding fictitious new add-ons or resolving old problems

internal relocation and fusion of LRUs for easy maintenance - should have been done along with your development of the craft
hopefully AESA (elta 2052) radar, Additional fuel, EW suit - if it was not in the initial requirement list, then this should be a separate product
standardized production: again - when they developed the craft, if they have not worked to include standardized production, why did they even build it? why such low confidence on their own machine that they wouldnt build with "standardized production" in mind?

 

[ranadd]

This constant change of what constitute to be a final configuration that is ready for FOC is ridiculous. This bird should have started its manufacturing in numbers already.

China unveiled a 5th gen jet ready for limited production with no engine.

But yes, lets wait for the warp engine option as well. MoFo Indian DoD personnel.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

FOC is delayed to Jun 2017 to Dec 2017, but it will now be for LCA MK1P, which will have weight reduction (600 to 1000kgs), internal relocation and fusion of LRUs for easy maintenance, OBOGS, hopefully AESA (elta 2052) radar, Additional fuel, EW suit, Jammers, and standardized production.

Could you please post the source of this information

 

[Water Car Engineer]

FOC is delayed to Jun 2017 to Dec 2017, but it will now be for LCA MK1P, which will have weight reduction (600 to 1000kgs), internal relocation and fusion of LRUs for easy maintenance, OBOGS, hopefully AESA (elta 2052) radar, Additional fuel, EW suit, Jammers, and standardized production.

This makes no sense, why did they just add on several more clauses? If this is even remotely true, Parrikar need to drop kick some of these people with his shitty sandals on.

 

[RPK]

From the archives of Aero India-2015..
Seen here, KH-2018 (LSP-8) in the final phase of a vertical loop..

 

[AMCA]

Naval LCA is cancelled. Rafale M coming.

Now naval LCA is being converted to Air force version LCA MK1p, due to its better aerodynamics. You may remember that naval and trainer LCA are same only difference being additional seat. Now that seat is replaced by additional tank to augment more fuel. The under carriage is being made lighter with lighter landing gear, removal of dead ballast weight of 300 kg from nose, 150 kgs from landing gear, and lighter air frame, OBOGS will remove 100 kgs, lesser LRUs due to fusion of several LRUs into one, will bring LCA dowm weight of LCA to around 5500 to 5800 kgs depending upon how much they are able to shave of weight. This will make LCA a real KICKASS fighter.

Earlier only ADA was involved in the development of LCA but now due to fear of losing jobs (thanks to MODI & PARIKAR and partly DASSAULT) HAL personnel are as well handling this and if safran completes KAveri engine (to be completed withing 3 years of signing the Rafale deal which will be formally signed in JAN 2017) and uprates it to even 120kn (kaveri engine is capable of 128kn) as promised for Rafale deal offsets then you may have a completely different LCA which is leagues ahead of competition coming out of HAL by 2021.

Complete BS. LCA Navy and Trainer are two different designs altogether. LCA Navy is here to stay and will not be cancelled.

 

[aftab_s81]

If everything goes well, Tejas will be a real power punch. Let's see when production starts, what's on the plate.

 

[halupridol]

Dpsu zindabad

 

[AMCA]

Naval LCA and Trainer LCA are almost identical one with levcon other without and with 2 seats.

LCA Navy has reinforced undercarriage with lesser hard points, Stronger landing gear,the nose is drooped for better cockpit vision,The total air-frame is far too stronger than that of the air force version and in addition carries LEVCONS . From the software point of view its Control Law is totally different. The Sink rate is 7.1m/s vs 3m/s of the Air Force.

NP2 has over 150 design changes vs the NP1..

Please do some research before spreading rumors.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

If everything goes well, Tejas will be a real power punch. Let's see when production starts, what's on the plate.

Production is on right now.

 

[sathya]

Naval LCA is cancelled. Rafale M coming.

Now naval LCA is being converted to Air force version LCA MK1p, due to its better aerodynamics. You may remember that naval and trainer LCA are same only difference being additional seat. Now that seat is replaced by additional tank to augment more fuel. The under carriage is being made lighter with lighter landing gear, removal of dead ballast weight of 300 kg from nose, 150 kgs from landing gear, and lighter air frame, OBOGS will remove 100 kgs, lesser LRUs due to fusion of several LRUs into one, will bring LCA dowm weight of LCA to around 5500 to 5800 kgs depending upon how much they are able to shave of weight. This will make LCA a real KICKASS fighter.

Earlier only ADA was involved in the development of LCA but now due to fear of losing jobs (thanks to MODI & PARIKAR and partly DASSAULT) HAL personnel are as well handling this and if safran completes KAveri engine (to be completed withing 3 years of signing the Rafale deal which will be formally signed in JAN 2017) and uprates it to even 120kn (kaveri engine is capable of 128kn) as promised for Rafale deal offsets then you may have a completely different LCA which is leagues ahead of competition coming out of HAL by 2021.

Fanboy story ?
120kn engine ? Safarn develops for India ?

Btw I enjoyed reading..
Still, even with this, goal post is shifted yet again,...

LCA Navy has reinforced undercarriage with lesser hard points, Stronger landing gear,the nose is drooped for better cockpit vision,The total air-frame is far too stronger than that of the air force version and in addition carries LEVCONS . From the software point of view its Control Law is totally different. The Sink rate is 7.1m/s vs 3m/s of the Air Force.

NP2 has over 150 design changes vs the NP1..

Please do some research before spreading rumors.

Lesser hard points ?

 

[Shabi1]

FOC is delayed to Jun 2017 to Dec 2017, but it will now be for LCA MK1P, which will have weight reduction (600 to 1000kgs), internal relocation and fusion of LRUs for easy maintenance, OBOGS, hopefully AESA (elta 2052) radar, Additional fuel, EW suit, Jammers, and standardized production.

This is pretty risky and a waste of time, why don't they iron out issues with existing jet and start inductions with original specs. Benchmark should have been the aircrafts its intended to replace and their flaws, which LCA can do in its current configuration. Can always introduce upgrades within production variants. 4th gen aircrafts are supposed to be modular with ability of change out parts for future upgrades.

Turning out to be a Bradly. From the movie Pentagon Wars (must watch and hilarious).

 

[RPK]

 

[AMCA]

Fanboy story ?
120kn engine ? Safarn develops for India ?

Btw I enjoyed reading..
Still, even with this, goal post is shifted yet again,...




Lesser hard points ?

Yes. While the LCA Navy has only 7, the Airfroce version has 8(one installed under the air intake on the port side.)