Erdogan beating down on Uighur protestors

[Beast]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/exploring-dna-zheng-he-chinas-greatest-admiral.593172/

May I know what are you trying to imply? First of all Zheng He is not a Kurdish and nothing for u to link to my post. You are full of nonsense.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

May I know what are you trying to imply? First of all Zheng He is not a Kurdish and nothing for u to link to my post. You are full of nonsense.

Treat people with respect.

 

[zectech]

Paranoid mass delusion so out of control the riot police are called in.

Western media doing what they do, get the uneducated masses behind some fake movement, so their can be some big war someday against the Chinese.

The zionists are already preparing for conflict with China, these individuals want as many supporters to give them fake moral support, like in the Iraq War. Saddam was a madman out to kill everyone they told the masses. he had WMDs and was ready to use them, all the zionist press reported. The zionists are liars, you are not supposed to believe any zionists.

 

[Beast]

Treat people with respect.

What are you talking about? Do u have some low IQ? Nobody can understand your BS.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

What are you talking about? Do u have some low IQ? Nobody can understand your BS.

Don't you have a hardline stance against Uighur?

 

[Beast]

Don't you have a hardline stance against Uighur?

The Hardline stance will apply if they seek independence of xinjiang from China.

If spanish can send riot police that brutally beat up Catalan crowd for seeking free from Spain. I don't see why Chinese is exmepted from that right since when has spain threaten to be expulse them from EU.

Or maybe you can claim there is double standard from western countries where rules are apply accordingly to countries.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

The Ottoman Empire is only a part of our history, not all.

It's by far the most important. The Ottomans are the ones that made modern day Turkish culture, similar to how the Mughals are what made modern day Pakistani culture.

 

[dBSPL]

It's by far the most important. The Ottomans are the ones that made modern day Turkish culture, similar to how the Mughals are what made modern day Pakistani culture.

Of course, Turkey is a continuation of the Ottomans legally(Lausanne Convention). However, we cannot talk about a discontinuous state. The date of establishment of the Turkish Armed Forces (TAF) is taken as the date of establishment of METE HAN's army. In our culture, the state is the most sacred thing and its permanent.

Together with Tugrul Bey, Oghuz people became influential on the caliph of Islam(11th century) and initiated the "permanent" progress of Islam to the west. This is an important detail because the Oghuzes served as a leverage for all nations in their region without making ethnic-based politics (like the Kurds in Anatolia and some Balkan nations in europe). Kurds settled in Anatolia with this thanks to the Turks.

The fact that Anatolia's Turkish status was realized before the Ottoman state. At the same time, Ottoman is not our first state in Anatolia. Thats what i mean.

Turkish history is very rich, but because it contains large empires around the world, the rest of them are mostly in the shadow.

Guillaume de Tyr, Historia rerum ..., in the period before 1184, Anatolia is called "Turquenie".

This is the Marco Polo's english arranged middle east map of the 13th century.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

Of course, Turkey is a continuation of the Ottomans legally(Lausanne Convention). However, we cannot talk about a discontinuous state. The date of establishment of the Turkish Armed Forces (TAF) is taken as the date of establishment of METE HAN's army. In our culture, the state is the most sacred thing and its permanent.

Together with Tugrul Bey, Oghuz people became influential on the caliph of Islam(11th century) and initiated the "permanent" progress of Islam to the west. This is an important detail because the Oghuzes served as a leverage for all nations in their region without making ethnic-based politics (like the Kurds in Anatolia and some Balkan nations in europe). Kurds settled in Anatolia with this thanks to the Turks.

The fact that Anatolia was a Turkish country was realized before the Ottoman state. At the same time, Ottoman is not our first state.

Turkish history is very rich, but because it contains large empires around the world, the rest of them are mostly in the shadow.

Guillaume de Tyr, Historia rerum ..., in the period before 1184, Anatolia is called "Turquenie".

This is the Marco Polo's english arranged middle east map of the 13th century.

Is it true, that the Turkish Army holds the power of the constitution, rather than the government (state)? Hence when the Military does a coup its not really a coup but a reestablishment of the constitution.

 

[rambro]

Western regimes destroying one muslim country after another for so long.
I hear nothing from Turkey, its so silent my ear rings.

 

[dBSPL]

Is it true, that the Turkish Army holds the power of the constitution, rather than the government (state)? Hence when the Military does a coup its not really a coup but a reestablishment of the constitution.

Need to talk about Iraq-Turkey confederation studies in the 1930s for example. while significant progress has come, very last moment the British were able to prevent it. As a result of Turkey's early middle east policies, French and British imperial states which are holding the geography of Iraq and Levant as a colonial regions , began to eradicate the Turkish remains systematically. And when rapidly growing Soviet threat reach the territorial claims from Turkey, this situation drew a mandatory direction for Turkey.

But In the post-Atatürk period, which made serious strategic mistakes, young republic could not prevent the strengthening of US influence under the name of NATO structure. This structure directly targeted the Turkish army and Turkish industry. Here's a different story. Because the most destructive work of the US was in the army who knew that the Turks were the Army-State. We must look with this eye to history of the Republic of Turkey's coups . In fact, there was no similar situation in Pakistan?

Western regimes destroying one muslim country after another for so long.
I hear nothing from Turkey, its so silent my ear rings.

If you don't hear this scream from Palestine to Arakan, from Bosnia to Somalia, you should probably be deaf.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

Need to talk about Iraq-Turkey confederation studies in the 1930s for example. while significant progress has come, very last moment the British were able to prevent it. As a result of Turkey's early middle east policies, French and British imperial states which are holding the geography of Iraq and Levant as a colonial regions , began to eradicate the Turkish remains systematically. And when rapidly growing Soviet threat reach the territorial claims from Turkey, this situation drew a mandatory direction for Turkey.

But In the post-Atatürk period, which made serious strategic mistakes, young republic could not prevent the strengthening of US influence under the name of NATO structure. This structure directly targeted the Turkish army and Turkish industry. Here's a different story. Because the most destructive work of the US was in the army who knew that the Turks were the Army-State. We must look with this eye to history of the Republic of Turkey's coups . In fact, there was no similar situation in Pakistan?

Yes, both the Turkish and Pakistan Military has Guardian and Veto powers over the state, built into the Foundation Constitution. They both have powers to sack the President.

 

[haidian]

Lets do a swap we take in the uygurs while you get the kurds.

We means Australia? I don't think Australia government wants to take either Uyghurs or Kurds.

 

[xenon54 out]

Western regimes destroying one muslim country after another for so long.
I hear nothing from Turkey, its so silent my ear rings.

Probably your wet dream, too bad for you that Turkey is not you avarage muslim country.

 

[dy1022]

LoL...