Denmark's new burqa ban also covers beards and punishes people for living in 'ghettoes'

[TMA]

No country should put dress code on citizens, let the people decide what to wear.

The issue is not this, to me, the issue is hypocrisy. When they bang on about human rights, freedom of speech and freedom to wear whatever and freedom to worship, then they do the opposite.

I would have more respect for them if they were not hypocrites and if they were honest about these matters.

 

[xyxmt]

When was it hidden?Iraq is for all to see

I am talking about their secularism, equality, freedom of speech, freedom of religion mask they had on for 60 years

 

[abc123xyx]

I am talking about their secularism, equality, freedom of speech, freedom of religion mask they had on for 60 years

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you are talking about india now...

 

[xyxmt]

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you are talking about india now...

not obsessed about India, India is in our back mirror

 

[Jf Thunder]

I agree, but such kind of regressive reactionary Muslims give the Western governments excuses to come up with racist policies.



What else can I say... It is just too much.

Maybe there should be some big riot in India for things to come back to a proper situation. Maybe some other way, I don't know.



I don't think anyone will have problem with Fawad Khan and SRK type of beards. It is the Tableeghi or Wahabi beards that seem to be questioned.



He is right.

Not too long time ago a female member of parliament in Egypt called for a total ban on the burqa ( including the niqab face veil ) which garment she called a Jewish tradition :




@Jf Thunder @Zibago

The story about thinking, that the veiled woman was a prostitute made me LOL so damn hard
you could hide a tank in there
and indeed prostitutes could easily move around in that thing

Covering face and beard is totally Islamic practises Muslim woman from Umhatul Momineen to Sahabiat proudly did it That is why enemies of ALLAH and his RADOOL SAW hate. And these countries are showing their true colors and good the false notions of secularism and other crap are getting busted and enemy is now crystal clear
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I shall choose to ignore un-Islamic concepts

Should be removed by force?

How you would feel if someone else dictate what you should be wearing? I guess you would be fine if someoen take off your trouser down and ask you to wear whathever they decide for you

We have extremists who want to impose it on women and on other side extermist bigot ( so called liberal) who want to remove it by force..boht disgusting

thats just like saying, that freeing someone from slavery be force is slavery
because just like slaves, the niqabis are trained from very young age, that slavery is your fate,
so obviously just like accepting niqab, they will accept slavery as something real damn good

So even beards? What about freedom of choice?

freedom of choice to wear a garment, where your identity is hidden is not a choice im afraid

Unislamic....I may not agree with it but where did you get that wearing a niqab is unislamic. On the one hand you want woman's rights and in the other you want to impose your values on them...please make up your mind. Beacsue when your husband does the same to you.....you will be the first to complain

I aint gay bruh
niqab indeed is Un-Islamic
no sane, self respecting woman would want to wear a damn niqab, unless trained from a young age or forced

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

No country should put dress code on citizens, let the people decide what to wear.

Yes,ANYONE that tries to create rules what other people should wear,
should get lifetime imprisonment or be expelled.
Any use of uniform to show that you are have a certain religion - same punishment...

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

thats just like saying, that freeing someone from slavery be force is slavery
because just like slaves, the niqabis are trained from very young age, that slavery is your fate,
so obviously just like accepting niqab, they will accept slavery as something real damn good

Your stupid analogy dont make any sense.This logic can also be applied to those who wear less clothes and flash their boobs in public. They are also told from chilhood that this lifesyle and clothing is acceptable and norm then would i have right to free them from this objectification by force?

Wearing extra piece of clothes dont make you slaves of anyone and plenty women choose to wear it for sake of Allah. Your opinion is that veil oppress others. Those who wear the veil hold a different opinion and claim that it makes them feel liberated.You are free to dictate your wife/sister/daughter to wear nothing( if you wish ) because thatshow we were born without clothes but you cannot impose your opinions on others because this will make you intolerant bigot.

Taking away the niqab or the burka can not end oppression, it can only add another layer of control. You are actually supporting a patriarchal society by trying to force women to wear particular clothing to suit your views. Banning the niqab is clearly an infringement on the human rights of those who willingly choose and want to wear the niqab

 

[Jf Thunder]

Your stupid analogy dont make any sense.This logic can also be applied to those who wear less clothes and flash their boobs in public. They are also told from chilhood that this lifesyle and clothing is acceptable and norm then would i have right to free them from this objectification by force?

Wearing extra piece of clothes dont make you slaves of anyone and plenty women choose to wear it for sake of Allah. Your opinion is that veil oppress others. Those who wear the veil hold a different opinion and claim that it makes them feel liberated.You are free to dictate your wife/sister/daughter to wear nothing( if you wish ) because thatshow we were born without clothes but you cannot impose your opinions on others because this will make you intolerant bigot.

Taking away the niqab or the burka can not end oppression, it can only add another layer of control. You are actually supporting a patriarchal society by trying to force women to wear particular clothing to suit your views. Banning the niqab is clearly an infringement on the human rights of those who willingly choose and want to wear the niqab

umm no, doing something for Allah, which Allah himself does not demand is strange
wearing a veil cannot be equated with wearing normal clothes, no one is going to say "go out and wear nothing" however people do say "those who do not cover their hair, will be thrown into hell"
One arises after scaring some from the dangers of hell (the damn niqab)
while the other arises after observing one's culture and atmosphere during growth (normal clothing)

The niqab only causes a person to loose self confidence, you have to hide your damn face while speaking to someone. niqab is just a method of control
do you see any motivational posts about wearing normal clothing such as shalwaar kammez, shirts, skirts etc?
no, because they are normal clothes which anyone can wear out of choice

on the other hand, you see loads of posts telling the "benefits" of Niqab, and how non niqabis will go to hell, and how the "good sisters who wear the niqab in this summer heat because hell is hotter" WTH?

 

[Zarvan]

The story about thinking, that the veiled woman was a prostitute made me LOL so damn hard
you could hide a tank in there
and indeed prostitutes could easily move around in that thing


I shall choose to ignore un-Islamic concepts


thats just like saying, that freeing someone from slavery be force is slavery
because just like slaves, the niqabis are trained from very young age, that slavery is your fate,
so obviously just like accepting niqab, they will accept slavery as something real damn good


freedom of choice to wear a garment, where your identity is hidden is not a choice im afraid


I aint gay bruh
niqab indeed is Un-Islamic
no sane, self respecting woman would want to wear a damn niqab, unless trained from a young age or forced

No Niqab is totally Islamic concept you just don't want to follow Islam and lying about it and you just accused Hazrat Ayesha RA of being unislamic because I just posted what Hazrat Ayesha RA told and and did along with all Muslim women of time of RASOOL SAW. So keep ignoring orders of Islam ALLAH also ignored those who ignore his orders and than have audacity to lie also and think they know better than Sahabiat

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Alhamdulilah that Pakistanis love Niqab/burqa and also big beards. You guys need to get out more. Most of Pakistan is extremely religious and we celebrate our Eids, Shab e Baraat, Ramazan, Ashura with josh.

 

[Imran Khan]

now thats good law

 

[Trango Towers]

The story about thinking, that the veiled woman was a prostitute made me LOL so damn hard
you could hide a tank in there
and indeed prostitutes could easily move around in that thing


I shall choose to ignore un-Islamic concepts


thats just like saying, that freeing someone from slavery be force is slavery
because just like slaves, the niqabis are trained from very young age, that slavery is your fate,
so obviously just like accepting niqab, they will accept slavery as something real damn good


freedom of choice to wear a garment, where your identity is hidden is not a choice im afraid


I aint gay bruh
niqab indeed is Un-Islamic
no sane, self respecting woman would want to wear a damn niqab, unless trained from a young age or forced

Sorry bro I thought you is a lady. Apologies.
Niqab is unislamic......Oh dear. No point saying anymore is there

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

umm no, doing something for Allah, which Allah himself does not demand is strange

Again this is your interpretation which others dont agree

wearing a veil cannot be equated with wearing normal clothes, no one is going to say "go out and wear nothing" however people do say "those who do not cover their hair, will be thrown into hell"
One arises after scaring some from the dangers of hell (the damn niqab)
while the other arises after observing one's culture and atmosphere during growth (normal clothing)

The niqab only causes a person to loose self confidence, you have to hide your damn face while speaking to someone. niqab is just a method of control
do you see any motivational posts about wearing normal clothing such as shalwaar kammez, shirts, skirts etc?
no, because they are normal clothes which anyone can wear out of choice

on the other hand, you see loads of posts telling the "benefits" of Niqab, and how non niqabis will go to hell, and how the "good sisters who wear the niqab in this summer heat because hell is hotter" WTH?

Again we all define what is normal , what is modest, what is acceptable wht we should be wearing as per our cultural and religious beliefs which vary from religion to religion and culture to culture . Some dont like women wearing veil and others may not like women weaing bikni

Banning veil or any dress clearly undermines the freedom of those women who wish to wear it. While you may not like the idea of a woman wearing the veil (which is sign of opppression for you) but its none of your business or mine to decide what ought to be right. You should decide it for yourself and should leave this for people to decide for themselves

 

[prashantazazel]

The issue is not this, to me, the issue is hypocrisy. When they bang on about human rights, freedom of speech and freedom to wear whatever and freedom to worship, then they do the opposite.

I would have more respect for them if they were not hypocrites and if they were honest about these matters.

Does your faith allow secularism, free speech, liberal dressing/behavior, equal rights to both sexes, interfaith marriages?
Isn't it antagonistic to western secular worldview? Don't you try to change that way of life via conversion and preaching? And forced restrictions to keep members of your community from leaving?
Let me clarify with an example-
When you're directly attacking someone who's known to be a nice person, do you not expect him to fight back?

P.S.- this is something all Muslims should ponder over.

Sincerely

Your neighborhood's friendly atheist!

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Does your faith allow secularism

Yes.

free speech

Yes.

liberal dressing/behavior

NO.

equal rights to both sexes

Yes.

interfaith marriages

For women, NO. For men cristian and jew only...

Don't you try to change that way of life via conversion and preaching?

Some do, maximum don't...

And forced restrictions to keep members of your community from leaving?

There is NO Islamic law to prevent anyone from leaving Islam.