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Denmark's new burqa ban also covers beards and punishes people for living in 'ghettoes'

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so where exactly was I mandating the Burka, and now my opposition to it has caused me to become a hypocrite?
Covering face and beard is totally Islamic practises Muslim woman from Umhatul Momineen to Sahabiat proudly did it That is why enemies of ALLAH and his RADOOL SAW hate. And these countries are showing their true colors and good the false notions of secularism and other crap are getting busted and enemy is now crystal clear
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the thread was about denmark.....right !

be on topic....but i am sure you have nothing to contribute here....
just trolling and then crying to mods when others response to your nonsence..

its few idiots like you who turned the forum into a troll site...

Completely on topic. Modi/Yogi fanboy Hindu rightwingers’ War on Islam in the form of Love Jihad, Triple Talaq, Udhiya (Sacred Beef slaughter), Azaan on loud speakers, Rohingya refugees, forcing Indian Muslims to condemn Pakistan, revoking Muslim citizenship, rape/murder in UP, Gujurat,etc. and changing Muslim-associated city names is all related to the oppression and subjugation of the rights of Muslim minorities in India.

Covering face and beard is totally Islamic practises Muslim woman from Umhatul Momineen to Sahabiat proudly did it That is why enemies of ALLAH and his RADOOL SAW hate. And these countries are showing their true colors and good the false notions of secularism and other crap are getting busted and enemy is now crystal clear
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Thanks for sharing. If Western societies don’t open their societies and public spaces for Muslims then the dichotomy of Muslim-NonMuslim will continue.

The onus is on the West to welcome and treat with respect their Muslim minorities as they are the ones preaching values of freedom, equality, and human rights.

If they cannot manage that, then leave Muslim occupied lands, accept that your civilization is not global, and stop screaming about your progressive values which don’t exist.

What’s the difference between 11th century crusaders, 20th century colonizers, and today’s 21st century capitalist democracies?

Maltreatment of Muslims reveals their hypocrisy and duplicity.
 
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This is what happens when you neglect politics. Wouldn't happen in Britain, because we're politically active. A lot of that is thanks to Indians tbh. They got politically active and we started playing keeping up with the Jones's.


Muslim countries like Palestine?
there is not such think palastine its invention show me there history before 20 century
 
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Completely on topic. Modi/Yogi fanboy Hindu rightwingers’ War on Islam in the form of Love Jihad, Triple Talaq, Udhiya (Sacred Beef slaughter), Azaan on loud speakers, Rohingya refugees, forcing Indian Muslims to condemn Pakistan, revoking Muslim citizenship, rape/murder in UP, Gujurat,etc. and changing Muslim-associated city names is all related to the oppression and subjugation of the rights of Muslim minorities in India.

you have 1000 threads on the forum on all that you wrote..

but this one is on denmark......but seem you had no option/opinion here other then to bang your head against the indian wall...
 
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If Western societies don’t open their societies and public spaces for Muslims then the dichotomy of Muslim-NonMuslim will continue.

The onus is on the West to welcome and treat with respect their Muslim minorities as they are the ones preaching values of freedom, equality, and human rights.

Neither did they come to Muslim countries by invitation nor will they leave because they are asked.

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding in the modern Muslim world view. That anyone owes anyone anything.

I'm sorry to say it but human rights are a concept made up by the West and they are using it as they please. Not fair? Who you gonna complain to - Nawaz Sharif? King Salman or the West itself?

The way things are going Muslims need to ask only one question - is it worth it to stay here?

Seeing the state of Muslim countries, I'm guessing no one will be leaving.
 
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No country should put dress code on citizens, let the people decide what to wear.
 
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Neither did they come to Muslim countries by invitation nor will they leave because they are asked.

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding in the modern Muslim world view. That anyone owes anyone anything.

I'm sorry to say it but human rights are a concept made up by the West and they are using it as they please. Not fair? Who you gonna complain to - Nawaz Sharif? King Salman or the West itself?

The way things are going Muslims need to ask only one question - is it worth it to stay here?

Seeing the state of Muslim countries, I'm guessing no one will be leaving.
id they want to live in the rich denemark they should folow there rules they can back to theyre 3 world countries im sure they dont want it
 
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The burka ban is just a cover-up for new racist policies

I agree, but such kind of regressive reactionary Muslims give the Western governments excuses to come up with racist policies.

instead of getting the Burka out of India, you are inviting it there?
WTF?

What else can I say... It is just too much. :(

Maybe there should be some big riot in India for things to come back to a proper situation. Maybe some other way, I don't know.

So even beards? What about freedom of choice?

I don't think anyone will have problem with Fawad Khan and SRK type of beards. It is the Tableeghi or Wahabi beards that seem to be questioned.

In 2009, there was wide debate in Egypt on the issue of the niqab after the late Grand Shaikh of Al Azhar Shaikh Sayyed Tantawi said that the niqab is "tradition not religion" and that universities have the right to ban their female students from wearing anything that hides their facial features.

He is right.

Not too long time ago a female member of parliament in Egypt called for a total ban on the burqa ( including the niqab face veil ) which garment she called a Jewish tradition :
An Egyptian lawmaker has said members of parliament are drafting a law that would ban women from wearing the burqa in government institutions after alleging the Islamic full-face veil was a "Jewish tradition".

Amna Nosseir said on Sunday that the proposed ban would be in the best interest of Egyptian society and that she has been battling against the burqa over the past 40 years.
Nosseir, who wears the hijab, said on Wednesday that the burqa - known in Arabic as the niqab - had its origins in Jewish religious law.

"In the Old Testament, you find in chapter 38 that the Jewish religious authorities tell you that if Jewish women leave the house without covering the face and head then they are breaking Jewish religious law," the lawmaker said during an interview with local media.
She added that this part of Jewish law became entrenched in pre-Islamic Arab tribes of the Arabian Peninsula and then spread throughout the Middle East with the Muslim conquests.

The verse the lawmaker could be referring to is Genesis 38, where a biblical figure encounters his daughter-in-law in the street and mistakes her for a prostitute because she had covered her face with a veil.

@Jf Thunder @Zibago
 
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id they want to live in the rich denemark they should folow there rules they can back to theyre 3 world countries im sure they dont want it
Sorry boy... not everyone got the "Alya" passport with them... Where every jew on this planet can go to Israel and get what he/she wants... Cheap/Free Houses/Land and Work...
No one can go back to "his" country... since a good part of them... were "BORN" and "RAISED" in Denmark or any other EU countries...

And many seems to forgot that a very good part of Women wearing "Burkas" are actually "Reverts"... meaning Converts...
Ironic isn't it... But that what you get when Ignorance is your new motto...
 
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Slowly but surely, Europe is undergoing a move towards restricting religious freedom for non-Christians. The Danish government and media have focused on the burqa ban to get public consent, but the real issue is how minorities are being treated as second-class citizens.

All they say is:

1- Not to cover one's visible, distinguishable features
2- Not to ghetto-ise. Instead integrate more with everyone so that there is harmony and mutual understanding among peoples.

How exactly is it wrong?

Many people of one type living in one area creates a sort of isolationism and insecurity. Singapore also has rules for urban housing, where there has to be a fine balance between people of all origins; Chinese, Malays, Indians and others.

See how successful they are.

These rule are coming up because the immigrants don't allow their kids/females to assimilate into the local culture. Anyone leaving their religion/community receives serious backlash from the immigrant community, which involves social boycott and violence.
There will be more such laws in the future, since religious folk(read men) have long used the freedom in secular countries to perpetuate their faith by force.

It is a model worth emulating in all democratic countries. People of all backgrounds should interact and assimilate well so that they respect each other and celebrate the differences while ensuring that there is no violence.
 
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the thread was about denmark.....right !

be on topic....but i am sure you have nothing to contribute here....
just trolling and then crying to mods when others response to your nonsence..

its few idiots like you who turned the forum into a troll site...
no no this thread was about you saying countries which wernt safe for muslims so i mentioned the most notoriously dangerous country for muslims which is india.

Your PM was banned from usa for 12 years on terrorism charges and not protecting the muslim community in gujrat.

Inida is not safe for anyone thats not Hindu.
 
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All they say is:

1- Not to cover one's visible, distinguishable features
2- Not to ghetto-ise. Instead integrate more with everyone so that there is harmony and mutual understanding among peoples.

How exactly is it wrong?

Many people of one type living in one area creates a sort of isolationism and insecurity. Singapore also has rules for urban housing, where there has to be a fine balance between people of all origins; Chinese, Malays, Indians and others.

See how successful they are.



It is a model worth emulating in all democratic countries. People of all backgrounds should interact and assimilate well so that they respect each other and celebrate the differences while ensuring that there is no violence.
Also not to take your kids to their native countries to teach them about their roots and culture(if you are a Muslim from a Muslim country)
Anti ghettoization and ban on burqa i am kind of ok with doubke punishment ,restrictions on beard and travel to country of origin is a different ball game

Right to wear is as important as right NOT to wear that is why i defend it in Pakistan whenever some say we need to impose our will on women
 
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