[CONFIRMED] 52 Chinese Military Aircraft Patrolling Over Taiwan ROC Sky ! Breaking Another Record

[arjunk]

Isn't that the ADIZ of Taiwan which extends into mainland China, and US media use it to make sensationalist headlines claiming China invaded Taiwan's airspace?

 

[Zsari]

and USA have same capability, so what your point, this is plain stupid argument by @Daniel808 that US military will inform China that we are attacking you LOL

The point is nuclear powers do not go to war directly against each other. Taiwan is at best a proxy, and its situated too close to China to be defendable. That's why there is still a 2nd and 3rd island chain as breeching of the first is inevitable even in US strategic calculation.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

The point is nuclear powers do not go to war directly against each other. Taiwan is at best a proxy, and its situated too close to China to be defendable. That's why there is still a 2nd and 3rd island chain as breeching of the first is inevitable even in US strategic calculation.

yes you're right bro but what about joint operation (USA/EU) to stop Chinese aggression on Taiwan

 

[Zsari]

yes you're right bro but what about joint operation (USA/EU) to stop Chinese aggression on Taiwan

EU is too far away to really be meaningful, nor does its interest align with that of the US, especially on the issue of Taiwan. Besides like I've said, Taiwan is simply too close to China, the response time to intervene is not there. By the time EU can muster a taskforce to the area, the fighting would long be over. I don't see anyone capable of or willing to conduct an amphibious assault on the island after it already fall into China's hand. Someone pointed out Crimea, and the similarity is on how pointless any intervention would be once the control of the island is lost.

 

[zhxy]

No country , even the size of US can take a few H-bomb warhead hitm. Radiation side effect will slowly devour the remaining population. It's a slow death for the survivor. China nuclear capabilities definitely is capable of hitting US mainland.

It will be naive to think US can escape unhurt from China nuclear retaliation. DF-17 is non interceptable. It's path is unpredicted and flies at mach 6-7 in the final terminal phase.

DF-41 throws 10 warhead at you and not to mention few DF-41 throw at same target. It is impossible to intercept all warhead.

If nuclear war is inevitable, this scenario is more effective.

China is completely desperate, has no hope for the future and is ready to accept destruction. He built 40,000 nuclear warheads.
10,000 warheads attack the US
10 000 warheads to attack Europe
10,000 warheads were used to hit Africa, South America, and Australia.
The remaining 10,000 warheads are used to detonate in the air and under the ocean. The aim is to completely destroy the global ecosystem.

Taiwan independence, then the world will end.

 

[PurpleButcher]

China can and will reclaim Taiwan, sooner or later. Taiwan joining US block or having Martian allies wont matter. No one risks its own land for the sake of its undefendable ally thousands of miles away.

Will any US President be able to convince his nation that we should risk a nuclear attack on california from china cause of an Island in South China Sea? Los Angeles vs Taipei? which is more important? Yes China will also be attacked but would mutual destruction of US & China be worth an Island? NO!

So China is just waiting for the most opportune time when it can reclaim with least loss of life and damage to economy. Its a question of WHEN not IF!!!

 

[White and Green with M/S]

If nuclear war is inevitable, this scenario is more effective.

China is completely desperate, has no hope for the future and is ready to accept destruction. He built 40,000 nuclear warheads.
10,000 warheads attack the US
10 000 warheads to attack Europe
10,000 warheads were used to hit Africa, South America, and Australia.
The remaining 10,000 warheads are used to detonate in the air and under the ocean. The aim is to completely destroy the global ecosystem.

Taiwan independence, then the world will end.

lol no country on earth can built 40,000 nukes

 

[zhxy]

 

[White and Green with M/S]

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What is your source dude, give us the link, and both USA/Russia almost have same amount of Nukes less than 10,000 nukes since 1945

 

[LeGenD]

A Powerful Task Force, that even can Destroy a Medium sized country

Indeed.

I believe that Taiwan and China will find a middle ground so that a war can be avoided. These tactics are serve as a warning in my humble opinion.
Btw Taiwan doesn't have American ground radars?

I hope there is no war; I like both in person.

Taiwan have decent radar coverage. They can detect and track movements of Chinese armed forces around Taiwan but what is the contingency plan when shooting commences? Some of those big ticket items of Taiwan are in danger of being knocked out at an early stage.

Taiwan might have to strike at Chinese military positions including threatening cruise and ballistic missile launchers before the Chinese can take out as many big ticket items as possible. But Taiwan does not have Hsiung Feng IIE cruise missile in large quantities in the present.

China is a military juggernaut with its annual spending on defense exceeding 250 billion USD mark in the present.

Given the geographical proximity of China to Taiwan, the former can strike at Taiwan at leisure and on a frequent basis. China can wear down Taiwanese defenses in the process.

Taiwan does have a challenging geography and some well-dug defensive arrangements. However, Taiwan wasted lot of time in terms of developing its counter-offensive capabilities. China was hard at work on the other hand.

Taiwan is in dire need of a large number of modernized defense systems at earliest but USA is too slow to arm Taiwan; Taiwan will receive PAC-3 MSE systems in 2025. Like seriously?

Taiwan might not have much time, however.

Taiwan's own motivation level for potential war with China is important consideration. If Taiwanese armed forces (and Public) are determined to fight then invasion of Taiwan will be a costly undertaking on the ground. This is unclear however.

Taiwan might be betting on international intervention to counter China if attacked but this is a gamble. If Taiwan show promise in the battlefield then Japan and USA might decide to support Taiwan but this is speculation at this point.

 

[Daniel808]

You don't understand Taiwanese. They are completely brainwashed by the west. They have zeal of convert and hate everything about China. Till now they call the covid "Wuhan virus" or "China virus". There is no way for peaceful reunification. When China mainland was in most dangerous covid time in 2020, Taiwan banned facemask export. And see below photo.
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Ahh..that time I still remember very clearly


In less than a week China successfully retooling their industries. And pumping dozens of millions of medical mask every single day

 

[Daniel808]

True heavyweight champions of PLAAF are J-16 variants and J-20 variants respectively. Remainder are force-multiplier options with distinct specializations in large part. I pointed out this fact back in May:

New fighter for PAF Doctrine?

From last few months we are hearing talk of J 11/16. While it looked the least expected option keeping in view copyright constraint on China. But the theory going round is that Russian wants to sell SU 35 but due to india pressure might settle for allowing China to sell J 16. If this...

defence.pk

J-16 is the most advanced Flanker in the world, and it is expected to be at the forefront of Chinese military operations in any theater. J-16D is ready for combat operations as well.

Taiwanese defenses are no longer up to the task. They are caught napping.

Very unfortunate, US abandon the Tomcats and choosing Super Hornet instead.

If Super Tomcat flying today, it would be a nice friend for J-16.

Both are bad4ss in their own league

 

[Beast]

super hornet is far far more advance/mature than your J16

It's has smaller payload and range than J-16. The nose cone of J-16 are also far bigger to house a very big and powerful AESA than F-18.

 

[LeGenD]

give me backup of your stupid claims, its burden on you to prove yourself LOL

Language please.

Arguments are impactful with good homework and language.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It's has smaller payload and range than J-16. The nose cone of J-16 are also far bigger to house a very big and powerful AESA than F-18.

J16D is your first dedicated electronic attack jet, i mean fighter jets, you have big Y8 series of electronic attack though, but USA developing these kind of jet since at least early to late 60s

Language please.

Arguments are impactful with good homework and language.

ok, sir