Changing times: Ijtihad and other questions Muslims must revisit

[Jf Thunder]

Done.. My dear.. Err.. He or She...

thnx, and i am a he

 

[Dubious]

so that mean even islam failed to put humans on track ..

When you follow Islam then you are on track when you dont then you cant throw the blame on Islam

You cant not follow something and then blame it for not putting you on track...

 

[Jf Thunder]

I want to see the Arabic version....and also a version of it written in its pure form....as it was translated not explanations by so and so...they usually explain how they understood it!

find it, becuase wiki says it has been a serious source of concern, so it must be authentic so the Ulemas have to consider it

 

[Jf Thunder]

gf stands for girlfriend

oh, i dont have any , never interacted with a girl my whole life

 

[rockstar08]

When you follow Islam then you are on track when you dont then you cant throw the blame on Islam

You cant not follow something and then blame it for not putting you on track...

i am not blaming just replying to your post ... and i agree that anyone cant blame islam about his deeds ..

 

[rockstar08]

oh, i dont have any , never interacted with a girl my whole life

chal jhotay

 

[Dubious]

wiki

wow...yea guru wiki...do you know even you can edit anything on wiki

serious source of concern

if it was I am sure that source would have popped up on google more often than necessary

must be authentic

Even our lecturers in BSc forbade us from taking anything from wiki ....except definitions....and you want to put the whole religion's base in the hands of wiki?

 

[Jf Thunder]

wow...yea guru wiki...do you know even you can edit anything on wiki

i know thats why i check it everyday, and i also check the sources they give

if it was I am sure that source would have popped up on google more often than necessary

FIND IT

Even our lecturers in BSc forbade us from taking anything from wiki ....except definitions....and you want to put the whole religion's base in the hands of wiki?

no, i am saying find the Hadith, because it seems important, i in no way believe in wiki, unless i have some assignment

 

[Jf Thunder]

chal jhotay

and where have i lied?

 

[rockstar08]

and where have i lied?

look for yourself
anyway back on topic.

 

[Dubious]

Why? Even 95% Muslim Turkey is secular. See its achievemens.

The problem is not being secular but the term secular itself:
not connected with religious or spiritual matters. - meaning i got from google

Now when we 95% take everything from the food we eat to how we dress (which is not much of a concern in Turkey) then how can you ask us to be ruled by one who doesnt take any of this as his/ her concern?

As for

the 83% Hindu populated India, gives all rights to minorities or the 95% Christian populated USA gives all rights to all people.

Islam (if followed in its pure form) gives rights to each minority...Now the taking Pakistan as an example is flawed....Because Scandinavia is more Islamic than any Islamic country! ALMOST all the rights practiced in Scandinavia are in Shariah....

As for laws.....Only 15% of Shariah is about criminal laws....we have human rights, religious rights, neighbours rights, rights of the ward of the state (orphan), widows and many others...none of which hit the newspapers coz almost all are in some way followed by 21st century west...while same were written some 1400 yrs ago in a desert!

where womens like you will start dominating the culture of Pakistan. Why should a religion dictate what you should do and should not? (by stressing what one do, does not break the law).

Well, women rights are also found in Islam...it is a different thing that culturally misogynist S.Asia doesnt allow these rights to surface so much that women dont even know they have rights...why blame religion for a cultural mindset?

And when you have man made laws (which change based on who pays the most money or cries the loudest) how would you know which is right? what is the limit? While laws from the creator would know how better to deal with a situation ...no?

 

[utraash]

ISLAM GIVES WOMEN FULL RIGHTS.
THEY CAN PRAY IN MASJIDS IF THEY LIKE
ISLAM DOES HAVE A FEMINIST INTREPRETATION, AS IT GIVES FULL RIGHTS TO WOMEN.
it is just us and those extremist Mullahs who dont let them have rights that Islam gave them

As per my understanding any religion is bound to show equality between men n women still lot disparity in many aspects....

 

[Jf Thunder]

look for yourself
anyway back on topic.

bro i seriously have no gf, and have not interacted with a girl as far as i remember

 

[Dubious]

i also check the sources they give

So basically you should have found it by now? so why:

FIND IT

no, i am saying find the Hadith, because it seems important, i in no way believe in wiki, unless i have some assignment

So you found it? coz you said :

i also check the sources they give

by checking I assume counter referencing?

 

[Jf Thunder]

As per my understanding any religion is bound to show equality between men n women still lot disparity in many aspects....

cuz we dont transfer the rights to them (women)

 

[rockstar08]

bro i seriously have no gf, and have not interacted with a girl as far as i remember