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Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

  • Yes

    Votes: 181 59.0%
  • No

    Votes: 126 41.0%

  • Total voters
    307
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i wounder why is that considering jf-17 internal fuel is 2400liters vs 3300liters of f-16 (without CFT)
three drop tanks in case of jf-17 would mean additional 3200 liters

f-16 with 3 tanks will carry 3300+1100+1400+1400

i am not sure about ferry range of thunders but one can argue jf-17 with three tanks and 2 bvrs/2vwr can accompany an f-16 with no tanks or only/centerline tank(1100liters)/CFT(1700liters for both) and full weapon load out for strike missions

but still i think fuel is one thing block 3 needs to work on too, same as what gripen did

Jf internal fuel is 5130 lbs or 3000 liters compared to f7 2300-2400 liters

Mirage is same about 3000-3300 liters depending upon the model but mirage old engine is fuel gazzler compared to jf turbofan engine

F16 carries s about 6900-7000 lbs need to check or 5700-6000 lbs fuel internally

Per one article j-10 carries more fuel then f-16 with Cfts but combat range wise it’s still short leg also confirmed by paf previous chief as they wanted more range out of it

Ferry range f-16 about 37-3800 with cft
J-10 3200 km and jf-17 3000 km tells you some comparison


http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104505/f-16-fighting-falcon/
 
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i think that 48 is now standing at Display in PAF Museum??

I am not aware about this, if you could plz arrange a new pic of A-48 at display in PAF Museum it will be nice to see for all of us

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He's just giving a dream-scenario. But it wouldn't be that insane considering Israel more or less did the same thing with the Kfir (i.e. a relative of the Mirage III/5). The Kfir Block 60 uses the EL/M-2052 AESA radar.

But with the rebuilt fuselage with zero flying hours conditions, which we obviously could not afford as it will be as much expensive as the building of new jet, so rather to go this way I think JF-17 is much better.
But 'fanboy' in me is urging me to state my wish to have Carver jet with latest AESA radar and avionics and high thrust engine from west/Italy to replace Mirage Jet in PAF .... hahaha
https://www.africandefence.net/project-carver-emerges-from-the-shadows/
 
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Looks alot like tejas
But with the rebuilt fuselage with zero flying hours conditions, which we obviously could not afford as it will be as much expensive as the building of new jet, so rather to go this way I think JF-17 is much better.
But 'fanboy' in me is urging me to state my wish to have Carver jet with latest AESA radar and avionics and high thrust engine from west/Italy to replace Mirage Jet in PAF .... hahaha
https://www.africandefence.net/project-carver-emerges-from-the-shadows/
 
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Jf internal fuel is 5130 lbs or 3000 liters compared to f7 2300-2400 liters

Mirage is same about 3000-3300 liters depending upon the model but mirage old engine is fuel gazzler compared to jf turbofan engine

F16 carries s about 6900-7000 lbs need to check or 5700-6000 lbs fuel internally

Per one article j-10 carries more fuel then f-16 with Cfts but combat range wise it’s still short leg also confirmed by paf previous chief as they wanted more range out of it

Ferry range f-16 about 37-3800 with cft
J-10 3200 km and jf-17 3000 km tells you some comparison


http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104505/f-16-fighting-falcon/

Hi,

And that means " WHAT "? What does it tells you?
 
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Per paf history no other airforce has rebuilt mirage 3/5 PAst gv2, gv1 after first 1800 hours and gv2 for another 1200 hours total life 3000 hours PAK had developed with help of Oem or Oem participation mini Gv till it’s replaced with Jf in future some paf mirage will actually have had gv4 ;) but speaking to someone in af mirage wings needed to be replace and after Australian package now pac has capability to refurbish old wings and put them back in supply chain expect mirages to fly till at least 2025

Pg with 2400-2600 total life will go first than mirages ;)
 
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