Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

[LegionnairE]

Lol I've tried 4-5 photos of me on that app and got different results each time,but I mostly got Armenian,Israeli,Emirati and some other Arab country,also Greek,Brazilian and don't remember what else.

Anyway,you should stop with that "Gayreek" thing. This is a Youtube comment level insult.

 

[Foinikas]

In reality both are not!

Eurofighter Typhoons are the best bet for turkey to counter Hellenic airforce F 16 vipers and rafales typhoons are more advanced and design to dominate air specs unlike rafale

More advanced? Lol

 

[LegionnairE]

In reality both are not!

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aBdZ95A_460svav1.mp4

 

[nescafegold_]

I find these comparisons silly. Greece shouldn't be Turkey's direct rival to measure up to. Turkey should measure up to the United States and China. China came here from literally nothing. Turkey can do it too. We should first measure up to France and UK, then the US and China. Greece is just a vassal state.

I find these comparisons silly. Turkey shouldn't measure up to Greece, Greece is just a vassal state. Turkey should strive to measure up to the US, China, France, UK.

China was a very poor country in the 1980s and here they are. Turkey can do it too.

 

[Foinikas]

I find these comparisons silly. Greece shouldn't be Turkey's direct rival to measure up to. Turkey should measure up to the United States and China. China came here from literally nothing. Turkey can do it too. We should first measure up to France and UK, then the US and China. Greece is just a vassal state.

I find these comparisons silly. Turkey shouldn't measure up to Greece, Greece is just a vassal state. Turkey should strive to measure up to the US, China, France, UK.

China was a very poor country in the 1980s and here they are. Turkey can do it too.

Vassal State? Because the interests sometimes align with the French and Americans?

It's idiotic to say such stuff. Is Pakistan a vassal State to China or the USA then? Erdogan filled your brains with an idea that you're supposedly completely independent and yet.he's chewed his words and went back to his big statements and foreign policy many times,the last few years.

 

[nescafegold_]

Vassal State? Because the interests sometimes align with the French and Americans?

It's idiotic to say such stuff. Is Pakistan a vassal State to China or the USA then? Erdogan filled your brains with an idea that you're supposedly completely independent and yet.he's chewed his words and went back to his big statements and foreign policy many times,the last few years.

Turkey needs to become a fully independent regional power, like India and China, and get out of America's shadow for good. I'd say the same for Greece but I don't think you will. You're already part of EU. I'm also against Turkey ever joining EU. Our worldviews don't match (with EU and US).

I don't think Turkey and Greece should fight either. We have too much history and so much common culture. They made us enemies. We used to be citizens of the same empire.

Pakistan is not America's vassal. Their interests don't even align anymore.

I see the US as the biggest threat to European or world peace, and to Turkey. The US regime knows no boundaries in their aggressive interventionist policy and crimes. They are even a threat to their own citizens.

 

[BON PLAN]

I find these comparisons silly. Greece shouldn't be Turkey's direct rival to measure up to. Turkey should measure up to the United States and China. China came here from literally nothing. Turkey can do it too. We should first measure up to France and UK, then the US and China. Greece is just a vassal state.

I find these comparisons silly. Turkey shouldn't measure up to Greece, Greece is just a vassal state. Turkey should strive to measure up to the US, China, France, UK.

China was a very poor country in the 1980s and here they are. Turkey can do it too.

China never had a 66% inflation rate, for exemple.
The Turkish economic situation is bad. Erdogan will not be able to hide the situation for years.

Turkey needs to become a fully independent regional power, like India and China, and get out of America's shadow for good. I'd say the same for Greece but I don't think you will. You're already part of EU. I'm also against Turkey ever joining EU. Our worldviews don't match (with EU and US).

I don't think Turkey and Greece should fight either. We have too much history and so much common culture. They made us enemies. We used to be citizens of the same empire.

Pakistan is not America's vassal. Their interests don't even align anymore.

I see the US as the biggest threat to European or world peace, and to Turkey. The US regime knows no boundaries in their aggressive interventionist policy and crimes. They are even a threat to their own citizens.

Turkey is a panther that sees itself as a lion.
But really it may only be a simple cat.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey is a panther that sees itself as a lion.
But really it may only be a simple cat.

France , Greece , Armenia , PKK/YPG , HAFTAR are Cats

know your place losers

 

[MMM-E]

No FCAS before 2050, says Dassault CEO​

French dream FCAS by 2050

No FCAS before 2050, says Dassault CEO - AeroTime

Speaking at the Paris Air Forum on June 7, 2022, Éric Trappier, CEO of Dassault Aviation, gave an update on the advancement of the Future Combat Air System (FCAS) program. The “system of systems” built around a sixth-generation fighter jet, the Next Generation Fighter (NGF) was contracted by the...

www.aerotime.aero

Turkish Air Force 2028-2030

KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet

ANKA-3 flying-wing deep strike stealth UCAV

KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

700 km SUPER SIMSEK Kamikaze Drone/Cruise Missile

Turkiye has laid out its vision for the future of tactical air combat

Multi-layered distributed team of diverse unmanned aircraft working in concert with manned types

TF-23 , ANKA-3 , KIZILELMA and SUPER SIMSEK
that distributed team is operating with each one with their own unique roles

 

[Foinikas]

Superpower Turkiye always compares with tiny Greece. Nice.

 

[MMM-E]

KIZILELMA's advantages in BVR combat


-- GaN based AESA Radar , EOTS , sensor fusion
-- Stealth design for much lower RCS
-- Internal weapon stations for stealth flight capability
-- No risk to lose Pilot


Lenght
F-16 : 15.06 m
KIZILELMA : 14.70 m

RCS ( m2 )
RAFALE : 1
F-16 Block70 : 1
KIZILELMA : 0.3

According to retired Air Pilot major General BEYAZIT KARATAS

KIZILELMA can engage on F-16 Block70 from 90 km away while F-16 Block70 can engage on KIZILELMA from 67 km away and RAFALE can do it from 81 km away

Range of engagement
KIZILELMA : from 90 km
RAFALE : from 81 km
F-16 Block70 : from 67 km

first-look, first-shot, first-kill capability
Even 20 km is impressive when you realize the KIZILELMA has already killed the 4th gen Fighters F-16V a couple times before you visually IDed him.

KIZILELMA to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles in internal weapon bays

cost effectiveness ... 4 KIZILELMA in price of 1 RAFALE

Greece buys 24 RAFALE Fighter Jets
and Turkiye can produce 100 KIZILELMA in price of 24 RAFALE



KIZILELMA and F-16 in formation flight
30.04.2023

The first time in the world
Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time

KIZILELMA to help F-16 for air to air combat
A new era in aviation

1 Turkish KIZILELMA + 1 F-16 against 1 Greek F-16 or RAFALE ... ( 2 vs 1 )

 

[Kejo]

No FCAS before 2050, says Dassault CEO​

French dream FCAS by 2050
View attachment 934710

No FCAS before 2050, says Dassault CEO - AeroTime

Speaking at the Paris Air Forum on June 7, 2022, Éric Trappier, CEO of Dassault Aviation, gave an update on the advancement of the Future Combat Air System (FCAS) program. The “system of systems” built around a sixth-generation fighter jet, the Next Generation Fighter (NGF) was contracted by the...

www.aerotime.aero

Turkish Air Force 2028-2030

KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet

ANKA-3 flying-wing deep strike stealth UCAV

KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

700 km SUPER SIMSEK Kamikaze Drone/Cruise Missile
View attachment 934711


Turkiye has laid out its vision for the future of tactical air combat

Multi-layered distributed team of diverse unmanned aircraft working in concert with manned types

TF-23 , ANKA-3 , KIZILELMA and SUPER SIMSEK
that distributed team is operating with each one with their own unique roles
View attachment 934712

Thanks for sharing. I didn't know that FCAS is basically never going to be materialised. They're riding a dead horse.

 

[Foinikas]

KIZILELMA's advantages in BVR combat


-- GaN based AESA Radar , EOTS , sensor fusion
-- Stealth design for much lower RCS
-- Internal weapon stations for stealth flight capability
-- No risk to lose Pilot


Lenght
F-16 : 15.06 m
KIZILELMA : 14.70 m

RCS ( m2 )
RAFALE : 1
F-16 Block70 : 1
KIZILELMA : 0.3

According to retired Air Pilot major General BEYAZIT KARATAS

KIZILELMA can engage on F-16 Block70 from 90 km away while F-16 Block70 can engage on KIZILELMA from 67 km away and RAFALE can do it from 81 km away

Range of engagement
KIZILELMA : from 90 km
RAFALE : from 81 km
F-16 Block70 : from 67 km

first-look, first-shot, first-kill capability
Even 20 km is impressive when you realize the KIZILELMA has already killed the 4th gen Fighters F-16V a couple times before you visually IDed him.

View attachment 934714
KIZILELMA to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles in internal weapon bays

cost effectiveness ... 4 KIZILELMA in price of 1 RAFALE

Greece buys 24 RAFALE Fighter Jets
and Turkiye can produce 100 KIZILELMA in price of 24 RAFALE



KIZILELMA and F-16 in formation flight
30.04.2023

The first time in the world
Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time

KIZILELMA to help F-16 for air to air combat
A new era in aviation

1 Turkish KIZILELMA + 1 F-16 against 1 Greek F-16 or RAFALE ... ( 2 vs 1 )

You must have some serious insecurities in order to repeatedly c/p the same things and trying hard to prove your superiority towards tiny Greece. You yourself were the one insisting that Turkey's weapons are not for Greece but for bigger countries,like USA,Russia,China,France etc

 

[MMM-E]

Thanks for sharing. I didn't know that FCAS is basically never going to be materialised. They're riding a dead horse.

French Air Force will use Rafale ( technology from 1991 ) until 2040

but Dassault CEO says No FCAS before 2050 , that means French Air Force will use Rafale until 2050 while Germany buys 35 F-35 to operate with EF Typhoons

The UK and Italy bought F-35
Turkiye develops its own KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet for 2030

even KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with AESA Radar and GOKHAN ramjet powered long range air to air Missile will able to defeat RAFALE in BVR combat

also ANKA-3 flying-wing deep strike stealth UCAV for SEAD - DEAD role



and French boy BON PLAN calling Turkiye as a panther that sees itself as a lion

France is a cat that sees itself as a lion

 

[BON PLAN]

Turkey should measure up to the United States and China. China came here from literally nothing. Turkey can do it too. We should first measure up to France and UK, then the US and China.

Are you ill ?
China is a 1 billion people country. USA is a 340 million country. Turkey < 90 million.

GDP :

Stop dreaming. Stop believing the Erdogan's lies.


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No FCAS before 2050, says Dassault CEO​

French dream FCAS by 2050
View attachment 934710

No FCAS before 2050, says Dassault CEO - AeroTime

Speaking at the Paris Air Forum on June 7, 2022, Éric Trappier, CEO of Dassault Aviation, gave an update on the advancement of the Future Combat Air System (FCAS) program. The “system of systems” built around a sixth-generation fighter jet, the Next Generation Fighter (NGF) was contracted by the...

www.aerotime.aero

Turkish Air Force 2028-2030

KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet

ANKA-3 flying-wing deep strike stealth UCAV

KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

700 km SUPER SIMSEK Kamikaze Drone/Cruise Missile
View attachment 934711


Turkiye has laid out its vision for the future of tactical air combat

Multi-layered distributed team of diverse unmanned aircraft working in concert with manned types

TF-23 , ANKA-3 , KIZILELMA and SUPER SIMSEK
that distributed team is operating with each one with their own unique roles
View attachment 934712

A so called 5th gen fighter, made with US engine, with a indefined status weapon system, with no proof of stealth except external shape (copy and paste from F22 like bird).
Turkey is a dog, attached by a collar and leash to its US master.