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Any enemy of China is an enemy of Pakistan: Pakistan Army Chief Gen Raheel Sharif

This is the problem with Pakistan military and political leadership, why Pakistan need this type of statement to be issued that put pressure on Japan, Vietnam, Philipines, etc countries. I am not bashing but in international diplomacy it seems Pakistan need to learn a lot:(
@WAJsal , @Irfan Baloch , @Imran Khan ,@MilSpec @nair
R.S is kind of dealing all foreign affairs
 
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Unlike Pakistan, we never really depended so heavily on any country for our survival, both militarily and economically, neither we gifted a piece of our land as a token of our loyalty to any country, nor we allowed any country to come in and run military operations & bombing inside our country, those distinctions go to only Pakistan! :)

Have a look at your size and then have shame comparing yourself to Pakistan, a country seven, yes nearly 7 times smaller in population then India.

All those things you state are also equally applicable to:-

United Kingdom
Japan
South Korea
Germany
Turkey
Philipines
Australia
Saudia Arabia

and the list goes on.

* We did not gift anything. We arrived at a understanding with China with regards to the border. You did not and by default "gifted" all of Aksai Chin to China but in the course got butt slapped and then minus your trousers got thrown out.

Should we have also done the same? No thanks.
 
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Some people won't like me saying this but Pakistan is betting on the wrong horse and even worse... Pakistan is putting all of its eggs in one basket. It is sad to see Pakistan to become a vassal state of China and even more sad to see Pakistani being proud on that. If you see how China is acting towards smaller neighbors it only proofs that China is not "best-friend material". Pakistan is making a big mistake and you will be part of the problem. Nobody will attack China but in the contrary China is more likely to attack their smaller neighbors. If Pakistan get's caught in this you will loose equally as China will. Pakistan should get off the Titanic before it is too late. Sooner than later we will see what is going to happen.

Ahahah...i was waiting for that my friend. :pdf::lol::enjoy:
 
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Have a look at your size and then have shame comparing yourself to Pakistan, a country seven, yes nearly 7 times smaller in population then India.

All those things you state are also equally applicable to:-

United Kingdom
Japan
South Korea
Germany
Turkey
Philipines
Australia
Saudia Arabia

and the list goes on.

* We did not gift anything. We arrived at a understanding with China with regards to the border. You did not and by default "gifted" all of Aksai Chin to China but in the course got butt slapped and then minus your trousers got thrown out.

Should we have also done the same? No thanks.
yeah butt slapped,I we can understand your feelings when your country had to surrender before the same butt slapped country.

if gifting away land is what you call understanding then we would be happy to have a similar understanding with Pakistan ,then we could have a peaceful and prosperous future for both our countries.
 
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The word of Raheel Sharif carries more weight than any keyboard warrior on this forum. I'll just leave it at that.

Now for my opinion.

Pakistan is probably China's most important strategic partner (along with Russia).

Why is Pakistan important?

Because Pakistan offers an entry point into the Arabian Sea.

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This is the goal of CPEC. This is the reason why we funded and built Gwadar in the first place. Once CPEC is complete, China gets a shortcut into the Arabian Sea and becomes de facto gatekeeper for most of the world's oil supplies.

Fast forward to 2030. China is by far the largest economy on Earth. The PLA is massive and is sitting right next to the Strait of Hormuz...
 
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Hmmmmm.......i know Japan has normal relations with Turkey, just like maby european powers like Britain,France,Germany, and even China. I never knew there was any sweeter than honey relationship between Japan and Turkey.lol

In fact bar the Uygur issue, i will say Sino -Turkish relations are even way ahead of Japanese -Turkish relations from military to economic field.

For example sino-turksih trade stands at over 30 billion dollars as of last year, while turkey-japan trade is barely 5 billion dollars.

So Turkey being For Japan what pakistan is for china is rather erroneous IMO. :undecided:

I suppose what my friend @atatwolf was trying to illustrate to you, @mike2000 is back , is the multidimensionality of national relationships. You see there are many kinds of relationships, when we are referring to the diplomatic level, there are:
  1. Trade Relationships
  2. Cultural Relationships
  3. Military & Strategic Relationships
  4. Ideological Relationships
In regards to Turkey and China, they may not be ideologically succinct compared to the say Turkish-Azerbaijan, Turkish-Turkish Cyprus, or the same way as say Japan-Turkey , or Japan-United States, but they have a relationship, nevertheless. China and Turkey have a trade relationship, one that has seen bilateral trade rise to the $30 Billion mark. This is substantial yet at the same time not surprising because Turkey is a relatively well developed nation state of 80 million citizens and a GDP of over $822 Billion (that's quite large, actually). This trade relationship enables goods and commodities , affordable as they are, to come into Turkey, at the same time Turkish goods and commodities to enter into the Chinese market of 1.4 billion.

So, tho Turkey and China may not share similar ideological points , and they may have some areas of concerns (the Uighur issue), but that does not diminish their vibrant economic trade. Nor should it. In fact the fact that Turkey and China maintain a healthy trade relationship despite ideological differences speaks of the maturity of the respective governments , and this is a credit to them both.

Naturally that is the the way. For example, China and Japan may not be ideologically succinct and may have diplomatic obstacles, however, that does not diminish the Sino-Japanese bilateral trade which is now reaching $500 Billion per year; the largest trade relationship in Asia.




We may not see things "eye" to "eye" but we can definitely trade and make money. lol.

That's the way it should be, Mike. Right?



Cheerio and Carry On,
 
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Fast forward to 2030. China is by far the largest economy on Earth. The PLA is massive and is sitting right next to the Strait of Hormuz...

Thanks, but no thanks, the last thing we need in this region is another 'police'. China's economic presence in the region is completely welcome, but no military presence, otherwise, there is no difference between U.S and China in trying to be the 'police of the world'. We don't want China to become another U.S.
 
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Thanks, but no thanks, the last thing we need in this region is another 'police'. China's economic presence in the region is completely welcome, but no military presence, otherwise, there is no difference between U.S and China in trying to be the 'police of the world'. We don't want China to become another U.S.

The military hegemony will be proved to be not sustainable for the long term.

China is seeking on something else like the one belt one road economic policy.
 
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Some people won't like me saying this but Pakistan is betting on the wrong horse and even worse... Pakistan is putting all of its eggs in one basket. It is sad to see Pakistan to become a vassal state of China and even more sad to see Pakistani being proud on that. If you see how China is acting towards smaller neighbors it only proofs that China is not "best-friend material". Pakistan is making a big mistake and you will be part of the problem. Nobody will attack China but in the contrary China is more likely to attack their smaller neighbors. If Pakistan get's caught in this you will loose equally as China will. Pakistan should get off the Titanic before it is too late. Sooner than later we will see what is going to happen.
HI,

You are not even from Turkey are you?

Secondly, No one needs your advice on how we deal our replationship with others.

Vassal state plz.. get a proper recognition for yourself rather than begging turley to get you one ( identity)

No wonder you have accumulated -24 points.
 
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