Any enemy of China is an enemy of Pakistan: Pakistan Army Chief Gen Raheel Sharif

[21 Dec 2012]

HI,
But i haven't seen anything like Turkey and China looking for defence deals, such as SAM one.

Where Turley wasnt afraid to show middle finger to NATO


HI,

And what about yourself ?

I called on about the point on trade relationship. Turkey isn't hostile to China anyway, outside of @mike2000's brain.

EDITED

 

[salarsikander]

About my flgs - I've been resident in India for a while w.r.t to my profession.

Hi,

excuse me for my limited knowledge, care to explain what the bold words mean.

In that case if Original allegiance doesnt matter, than you loyalty can be questioned. If you cant be loyal to your original how on earth can you be expected to be loyal to USA. Say hypothetically speaking if USa declines and any other country rises for that matter. So will you take oath there and forget your so called original country of USA ?

 

[21 Dec 2012]

Hi,

excuse me for my limited knowledge, care to explain what the bold words mean.

In that case if Original allegiance doesnt matter, than you loyalty can be questioned. If you cant be loyal to your original how on earth can you be expected to be loyal to USA. Say hypothetically speaking if USa declines and any other country rises for that matter. So will you take oath there and forget your so called original country of USA ?

with respect to

I don't think I need to prove anything to you about anything. Its none of your business.

 

[salarsikander]

with respect to

I don't think I need to prove anything to you about anything. Its none of your business.

Hi,

No, you don't need to, just the same way you don't have to insult some other member for having his own views and talking about his flags and posts

 

[21 Dec 2012]

Hi,

No, you don't need to, just the same way you don't have to insult some other member for having his own views and talking about his flags and posts

Yes I can talk about other members posts. This is a message board and all views are put up to public. And the public can challenge each and any point. As you saw fit to challenge my loyalty to my country. Doesn't mean I need to respond.

 

[salarsikander]

You nailed it. Trade it not a good indicator of status of relations.@salarsikander stop insulting me. Are you from Pakistan or China?

Hi,

Read my other posts plz. You started Insulting Pakistan by calling it a vassal state.

If Pakistan wants to be colonized by China ... they are free to choose for that. The rest of the middle-east and Muslim world will fight tooth and nail to kick the Chinese out of the region if they try to colonize us.

Hi,

If you care about Muslims so much, then why allow NAto to attack Iraq or AfGhanistan for that matter ?

where was the ISlamic Ummah back then when Invaders of Palestine forcefully came in ?

Yes I can talk about other members posts. This is a message board and all views are put up to public. And the public can challenge each and any point. As you saw fit to challenge my loyalty to my country. Doesn't mean I need to respond.

Hi,

True very true. So I guess I have my answer by your non-response

 

[Indus Pakistan]

yeah butt slapped,I we can understand your feelings when your country had to surrender before the same butt slapped country..

Just two two infantry divisions, fighting 3,000 miles away from home in a strange land against Bengali Mukti Bahini guerillas, supported by 70 million Bengalis and then facing the entire Indian Army surrendered. No shame in that. Some of best fighting armies faced with overwhelming odds have done that in history. German Army, Japanese Army and British Army in Singapore are three examples.

And finally there is the humbling reality in the odds we face, there are seven Indians for one Pakistani which whilst not quite redemption does provide some comfort.

However when India faced a enemy, China in 1962 which was as large as India what happened? India got butt slapped. What is your defence? Or are you only capable of barely beating seven times smaller enemy even that with the help of Bengali civilians and Bengali guerillas?

* In the 1962 China/India war the Indian Army set world speed record in the time they took to run down the Himalayan mountains from the advancing Chinese Army. The secret was revealed by a old Indian Jawan (soldier) decades later. Apparently the Indians did not run down the mountains. They slid down. The lubricant apparently was the self induced diarrhea through fear. In other words they did a slalom.

if gifting away land is what you call understanding then we would be happy to have a similar understanding with Pakistan ,then we could have a peaceful and prosperous future for both our countries.

Such a understanding is brought about when the other party is potent and liable to tear you apart as that enforces respect. You can't have a respect for a seven times larger, but impotent enemy. A castrated eunuch affords more respect.

*Proof of pudding? This giant, India got thrashed by equal, China and had the entire Aksai Chin taken off. Yet this giant has not managed to do what the Chinese did, even to a 7 times smaller enemy. Proof Azad Kashmir after 65 years is still in Pakistan hands. Come get it if you can. Think about that.

India’s Top Secret 1962 China War Report Leaked | The Diplomat

Arithmetic is not your strong point I see

I said maths is not my forte. The only arthmetic I need to know is "India has seven times more people" than Pakistan or 7:1 ratio.

* When I said half I meant having China alone is better than having 30 other embassies in your capital like Papua New Guinea, Philipines, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Maldives, Seychelles, Madagacar, Gabon, Chad, Mali, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Mauritania, Somalia, Barbados, Belize, Suriname, Guyana, Honduras, Nicaragua etc.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Hi,

do share the trade volume between China and turkey as opposed to Japan and Turkey.

Also take a note of this link:

Turkish-Chinese trade to grow free from exchange rate pressure - Daily Sabah

Personal?? is that guy even from Turkey ?



Hi,

Can the same be said about NATO?
Or Turkeys wish to join EU?

Turkey too should diversify it relations, but again who am i kidding with ( You are not even from Turkey)

I am glad Turkey has far more better people with more broader vision and better political understanding

Just because he doesnt agree with you doesnt means he is not Turk. There are quite a few Turks here who are as harsh/hostile towards China due to the uygur issue. Ask turkish members here if he isnt Turk.

 

[salarsikander]

Just because he doesnt agree with you doesnt means he is not Turk. There are quite a few Turks here who are as harsh/hostile towards China due to the uygur issue. Ask turkish members here if he isnt Turk.

Hi,

He is not. He has himself confessed that once

 

[mike2000 is back]

Hi,

He is not. He has himself confessed that once

He confessed?? Never saw that. But i do know that they are quite a few Turks here who are as hostile towards china as he is. As i said with each passing year it will only get worse as the uygur issue worsen and we here more latest news like this:

Turkey takes in Uighur refugees; angers China | The Japan Times


Will be interesting to see Pakistans
stance if push ever comes to shove. As they say, its in time of troubles that you know your real friends.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Lool what if Turkey keeps helping its 'opperessed' uygurs brethrens in China and sponsoring them escape chinese authorities or better still arm them to return and fight to liberate their 'homeland' Xijiang from the hans, and China tired of Turkish meddling decides to retaliate, will Pakistan also consider Turkey as de facto ennemy?
Guess China might become the ennemy instead.

Dear troll... The Turkish President visited Pak just yesterday...,

Turkey and Pak have a strategic partnership and a historic alliance that extended to the Khilafat era.. We today are not only economic partners but also defence partners... Pak is also connected to Turkey via rail link to Iran ...

So no fukwit would ever consider Pak considering Turkey an enemy.. A country for which we have sacrificed lives Aswell as wealth... Our bonds are too strong.

Apart from that Turkey is also a trading partner of China.. Apart from that Turkey is also buying SAMs from China...

 

[salarsikander]

He confessed?? Never saw that. But i do know that they are quite a few Turks here who are as hostile towards china as he is. As i said with each passing year it will only get worse as the uygur issue worsen and we here more latest news like this:

Turkey takes in Uighur refugees; angers China | The Japan Times


Will be interesting to see Pakistans
stance if push ever comes to shove. As they say, its in time of troubles that you know your real friends.

Hi,

Lets see, I am not denying the news, but its from Japan times. You know stauch ... something something of China

Anyways, there is nothing wrong with that. After All UK too took part in Iraq war campaign with US and look how terrible the economic condition are now, even more after financial crisis.

So, Yes. You cant be expecting all goodies, can ya now?

There are highs and lows in every relation.

But At least china did not spy on us Like NSA did to GCHQ

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Lool what if Turkey keeps helping its 'opperessed' uygurs brethrens in China and sponsoring them escape chinese authorities or better still arm them to return and fight to liberate their 'homeland' Xijiang from the hans, and China tired of Turkish meddling decides to retaliate, will Pakistan also consider Turkey as de facto ennemy?
Guess China might become the ennemy instead.

Dear troll... The Turkish President visited Pak just yesterday...,

Turkey and Pak have a strategic partnership and a historic alliance that extends to the Khilafat era.. We today are not only economic partners but also defence partners... Pak is also connected to Turkey via rail link to Iran ...

So no fukwit would ever consider Pak considering Turkey an enemy.. A country for which we have sacrificed lives Aswell as wealth... Our bonds are too strong.

Apart from that Turkey is also a trading partner of China.. Apart from that Turkey is also buying SAMs from China...

 

[C130]

so much love. great bromance.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Hi,

Lets see, I am not denying the news, but its from Japan times. You know stauch ... something something of China

Anyways, there is nothing wrong with that. After All UK too took part in Iraq war campaign with US and look how terrible the economic condition are now, even more after financial crisis.

So, Yes. You cant be expecting all goodies, can ya now?

There are highs and lows in every relation.

But At least china did not spy on us Like NSA did to GCHQ

You are talking about GCHQ and NSA on a topic about china , Pakistan considering any ennemy of one as their ennemy? Whats the link? lool you lost it there bro.

Point of correction(though you are wayyy off topic) our GCHQ and NSA are the ones who have been cooperating together to spy on the world, not NSA spying on GCHQ. Lol Get your facts right my man.