Air Force Question Thread

[EagleEyes]

thanks sir its the point they can detect subs and distroy them also but saab200 is multyrole AWCS from sea to air we seen in viedeo there is 8 modes to set the hight of saab2000

The point is to set a dedicated PN AWACS, so they can do their own thing.

 

[Muradk]

The point is to set a dedicated PN AWACS, so they can do their own thing.

1 will be based in karachi.

 

[fatman17]

The point is to set a dedicated PN AWACS, so they can do their own thing.

thats why PN is looking at the P-3H with the hawkeye-2000 radar.

 

[shehbazi2001]

Till a few years back or perhaps even now, I see all aircrafts (except F-16) in all photos with AIM-9P or Matra Magic-2.

Tornado-IDS, Jaguar of RAF and A-10 all are good ground-attack aircrafts and I think they all use at least AIM-9L , which is all aspect or ASRAAM. These aircrafts are not required to carry BVRs. Escorts are provided for that purpose. Rich countries even provide Jamming aircraft to them.

I dont know why we are still relying on AIM-9P. If that has been upgraded to AIM-9P-4, then may be its acceptable but I don't know if its really -9P-4.

I think PAF was trying to fit AIM-9L on F-7s but I don't know what happened then..........has this objective been achieved?

 

[blain2]

All the F-16s with blue tipped sidewinders are AIM-9L. There is no dearth of images on the web showing PAF F-16s with AIM-9L. The F-7PG at least is mated to AIM-9L with its Grifo radar. There is a very detailed article about this in the AFM from back in 2003. Alan Warnes was helped by Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail is writing that out. What makes the F-7PG a potent dog fighter is the AIM-9L and the maneuverability combination.

You are right about Mirages and the F-7s with Matra and AIM-9Ps though. Older aircraft, PAF probably did not want to go through the integration challenges of mating the 9L and now the 9Ms to them.

 

[fatman17]

There is a very detailed article about this in the AFM from back in 2003. Alan Warnes was helped by Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail is writing that out. What makes the F-7PG a potent dog fighter is the AIM-9L and the maneuverability combination..

this article i can provide if allowed by mods?

 

[blain2]

this article i can provide if allowed by mods?

Its available here:
Pakistan Military Consortium :: www.PakDef.info

 

[fatman17]

Its available here:
Pakistan Military Consortium :: www.PakDef.info

quick draw mcgraw! great article! what would happen if the F-7PG was fitted with a western powerplant? food for thought.

 

[araz]

quick draw mcgraw! great article! what would happen if the F-7PG was fitted with a western powerplant? food for thought.

Wouldnt it still remain a short ranged point defnce fighter? Would that have any advantage, given that in its present configuration it is still a pretty potent fighter ( obviously considering the restriction)for this role.
My 2 Ps worth
Araz

 

[fatman17]

Wouldnt it still remain a short ranged point defnce fighter? Would that have any advantage, given that in its present configuration it is still a pretty potent fighter ( obviously considering the restriction)for this role.
My 2 Ps worth
Araz

i assume it would become a more reliable aircraft and hence not be replaced by the JF-17 any time soon.

 

[shehbazi2001]

Its available here:
Pakistan Military Consortium :: www.PakDef.info

In this article, in the second-last paragraph titled "FT-7PG",

this is the first sentence, which I think is wrong

"CAC did not design a double-delta version of the F-7MG".

It must be "double-seater"

 

[shehbazi2001]

I was looking at the pictures of F-7PG and found that its windshield is single piece as compared to the 3-piece windshield of the F-7P.

We see that 3-piece windshield in the A-5, F-6, F-86, F-4 Phantom, F-14 Tomcat, Jaguar, Tornado, Mirage F-1 etc but that disappeared in all new fighters like F/A-18, F-15, F-16 etc.........

In Mirage-3 and Mirage-5, the forward canopy windshield was too 3-piece but later the Mirage-2000 changed to single piece windshield.....

so why was it necessary before to have a 3-piece windshield?


what was exactly the purpose of this structure of the windshield (the forward canopy)....perhaps for housing the gunsights etc

Today I found an answer to my former question about the need for 3-piece windshield in early design fighters like F-86, Mirage-3/5, F-4 etc.........

The middle piece of these windshields was in fact "Bullet-Proof". That middle-piece was in front of pilot's face and gunsight, thus saving the pilot from the bullet fired from head-on.

These details were told by the host of Program "SHOWDOWN-AIR COMBAT" of the Discovery's Military Channel.

Showdown: Air Combat: Military Channel
some videos are given at
Military : Video : Military Channel (see F-86 Overview)

 

[araz]

i assume it would become a more reliable aircraft and hence not be replaced by the JF-17 any time soon.

Fatman
I will bow to your superior knowledge, but as far as i have read, F7 engine has a shorter life between overhauls but there have been no safety issues. So yes there might be some advantage in saving maintenance costs but to put a further investment in a 50s era fighter does not seem warranted. Secondly, the problem of it being short legged is due to its fuel carrying capacity, not a hungry engine and therefore may not encessarily be sorted by changing the engine. Engine choice again is an important issue, as RD93 costs 2.5 million$ a shot.
Am I barking up a rtotally wrong tree?. Feel free to educate.
WaSalam
Araz

 

[Owais]

I have a question here!
does our air force have the capability to intercept and shoot down a B-52 bomber flying at 55000ft???

 

[Muradk]

Today I found an answer to my former question about the need for 3-piece windshield in early design fighters like F-86, Mirage-3/5, F-4 etc.........

The middle piece of these windshields was in fact "Bullet-Proof". That middle-piece was in front of pilot's face and gunsight, thus saving the pilot from the bullet fired from head-on.

These details were told by the host of Program "SHOWDOWN-AIR COMBAT" of the Discovery's Military Channel.

Showdown: Air Combat: Military Channel
some videos are given at
Military : Video : Military Channel (see F-86 Overview)

Bullet-Proof or not it does'nt make a different the glass it not capable of suporting 3 to 4 tons may be more, just take an example a duck flying at 5 miles per hour having a weight of 5 lb when it hits a plane at 300Kn its impact 3 tons on the plane.

A simple question can you tell me when you fire a shot from a gun or a pistol when you squeez the triger there is a big bang and the bullet comes out , why the loud bang?