Afghanistan's enemy is Pakistan's enemy, says army chief

[haviZsultan]

The Urmar people are not 1000 or so,but in thousands.100% of ormar also know pashto as second language.I have many of them as my friend and some even relatives though those has already given up the ormari language and speak pashto as first language.
I can invite him to the forum,a relative of fine but as said,he i think doesn't know the language though,he's a ormari or burki

You would definitely know better than me not from being within that region. My information derives from secondary sources, not primary sources and am dependent on them for most of my research. Also a lot of it comes from wikipedia which is often personalized for people with differing views. One day I searched for Sarfraz Bugti and it led me to a wikipedia page full of insults to him and Punjabis probably by some Indian or maybe BLA cadre.

According to these secondary sources the population is counted as 1000 max as the ones (Burki) in Afghanistan, (Barki Barak have already abandoned it). Wikipedia recently changed it to 6000 because I remember pretty clearly remember reading 1000 once. Thousands is pretty low for any language too and we should help burkis preserve the language, culture and saints graves as they are also essentially pashtun or in other words Pakistani.

Yes they know Pashto. They are surrounded on all sides by Maseed habitations and other Pashto speakers and have the language. Pir Roshan or Bayazid Ansari, possibly from my family is from there as well (I am ansari from one side-abdullah ansari is a known ancestor). He brought up the Roshaniya movement, in that time a secular marvel which suggested women should be educated and learning wasn't just limited to man too though Khushal Khan Khattak stood against it.

 

[Samandri]

Who the fvck do you think you are, you are too ahead of yourself.



What do you know of the ground reality? What tide? India is a strategic ally and a friend and irrespective of our relation with Pakistan our relationship with India remains solid and indispensable which is deepening right now be it in trade, investment, and government to government both in civil and military affairs. India does not need any game card vis-vis Afghanistan it is matter of mutual interest and genuine friendship. We desire the same with Pakistan, but personally I am pessimistic and I would not trust Pakistan. I hope I will be proven wrong.

India takes great interest in Afghanistan, because of enmity with Pakistan, no genuine shenuine friendship........Afghanistan became close to India because of sour relations with Pakistan.
Ghani is going in right direction so far.

Well, we could have always been brother countries. Sadly, as LoveIcon mentions, it was Afghanistan which decided to pursue an aggressive stance.

You don't know shit. Tribal areas not in Pakistan but even in Afghanistan were free and outside any state control. What had happened in Momand area was an isolated incident and more had to do with local dynamics than a skirmish on behest of Pakistan in which the Afghan army and a tribe was involved. You are getting your *** whopped in tribal areas as we speak to preserve their autonomy. If we had joined the Indians then we could have knocked you out there and then.

I doubt that Afghan forces themselves were in position to put a decent fight even against FC (in 1961, Afghan armed forces along with lashkar, who were in thousands, were beaten without much effort by FC in Bajaur). But Indian army invading from Afghanistan side would have seriously screwed Pakistan in 1965 and 1971. But what about Aftermaths?, after bajaur episode, Ayub Khan blockaded border with Afghanistan.......resulting in huge economic losses to Afghanistan, government had even difficulty paying salaries to the civil servants. Because of that Zahair shah forced Daud khan to resign. Same would have happened if Afghanistan had attacked Pakistan in 1965 and 71 to support India. Landlocked Afghanistan is helpless against Pakistan. Compare Pakistan with your another neighbor Iran and you would realize that Pakistan is not that bad country, the misunderstandings and hostilities developed due to durand line issue otherwise historically Afghans and hindi muslims before 1947 had brotherly sentiments for each other.

 

[CENTCOM]

The U.S., Pakistan and Afghanistan share a common stance against terrorism. We have lost thousands of brave soldiers in fighting terrorism. Our common sacrifices prove our commitment to restoring peace in the region. It is our wish and desire to see peace prevail throughout the region. We have always been emphasizing shared cooperation and coordination between the regional partners. We recognize the improving relationship between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the need of the hour is to stand united against all those who threaten the safety of our lands. The terrorists continue to make their intentions clear by working against our shared peace objectives, and we fully support Pakistan and Afghanistan in their efforts to counter the common threat of terrorism.

Ali Khan
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