27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Trailer23]

By the Air strike Modi’s graph against coalition has increased manifolds. In fact there is no one near him.
The situation for Indian forces has never been better, fighting PAF in Azad Kashmir JUST WOW. Everything is open now. Pakistan Forces will have to now take into consideration IAF strike packages during peace times. They will have to secure their non state actors as well that would mean increased costs.
Some one attacks Mumbai, Lahor and Karachi will see action.
Now the next Indian Govt.s will have pressure as to why they didn’t cross the boundary when Modi could.

I'm not certain as to what the percentage is of the people (in India) that actually believe the Air Strikes took place in Balakot or not. And I know that you don't have a remote clue either. But then its a Indian thing, i'll leave it at that.

I am curious as to how you have come to the conclusion that the situation of the Indian Forces has never been better... I'm actually stunned that you were able to complete that sentence with 'PAF' in it.

What exactly is open? Do you think that Strike Packages (by any Nation) is like driving to Baskin Robbins late nite when you can't sleep...? Even (if) India were to attempt/embark on that treacherous journey, the repercussions would be precisely the same as they were on the eve of 27th Feb. You recall that day, right?!Leaving the Abhi Story aside, your IAF (coincidentally) lost 02 other equipment around that time. Hope you have a better coverup in your so-called "Strike Package in Peace Times".

Someone attacks Mumbai...Bombay or whatever the hell you're calling it these days. Take it up with them. Your PM suffers from Diarrhea, ya'll blame Pakistan.

As for Lahore & Karachi, those cities see action everyday. Just try getting through Saddar during rush hour...

 

[TsAr]

We’ll continue to hear counters to this info in terms of “things have changed”; but both fixes to the general obsolescence of the Sukhoi’s electronics and fighting concepts along with Rafale being integrated into their Orbat will take 5 years easily.

Question for @Oscar , India is getting 36 Rafales, out of 36 they would need 6 for training purposes which leave 30. Even if the availability is 80% they would be left with 24.
Out of 24 if they deploy 12 along PK border and 12 along China border, do you think that 12 will make a serious difference?

 

[Arsalan 345]

By the Air strike Modi’s graph against coalition has increased manifolds. In fact there is no one near him.
The situation for Indian forces has never been better, fighting PAF in Azad Kashmir JUST WOW. Everything is open now. Pakistan Forces will have to now take into consideration IAF strike packages during peace times. They will have to secure their non state actors as well that would mean increased costs.
Some one attacks Mumbai, Lahor and Karachi will see action.
Now the next Indian Govt.s will have pressure as to why they didn’t cross the boundary when Modi could.

modi is doing great but we also love our country so expect retaliation every time.yes fear is now gone and it's good.lets see who is better.

 

[alphibeti]

By the Air strike Modi’s graph against coalition has increased manifolds. In fact there is no one near him.
The situation for Indian forces has never been better, fighting PAF in Azad Kashmir JUST WOW. Everything is open now. Pakistan Forces will have to now take into consideration IAF strike packages during peace times. They will have to secure their non state actors as well that would mean increased costs.
Some one attacks Mumbai, Lahor and Karachi will see action.
Now the next Indian Govt.s will have pressure as to why they didn’t cross the boundary when Modi could.

I don't know how much Modi is popular after we kicked sh!t out of Modi's as$ on 27/2. Indians are brainless pessimist animals in any case. The only plus Modi has for Hindus is his being mass murderer of Muslims. So a bloody crimnal became Indian PM. For a respected society that would be a matter of deep shame. For Hindus that sick-minded criminal is a hero. Probably due to skewed psyche caused by centuries of slavery.

No, we don't need to keep a CAP every where in Pak 24/7. We are not scared - least of coward Hindus. We'll let IAF come in and then hunt them down. And then... next day ... we'll fly to India, take control of the skies, establish air superiority, and hit Indian as$ even harder. If you have guts, come again for aggression against Pakistan. Modi doesn't have that. Anyhow, we are ready sacrifice a few trees again and then kill as many Indian planes in retaliation. But this time we'll not hit symbolic targets. We'll put your WOW deep in your rear hole.

 

[SQ8]

Question for @Oscar , India is getting 36 Rafales, out of 36 they would need 6 for training purposes which leave 30. Even if the availability is 80% they would be left with 24.
Out of 24 if they deploy 12 along PK border and 12 along China border, do you think that 12 will make a serious difference?

You are assuming 36 will arrive in one day and they will have an entire squadron worth of pilots trained and experienced on them completely integrated with their force structure.

 

[TAC]

By the Air strike Modi’s graph against coalition has increased manifolds. In fact there is no one near him.
The situation for Indian forces has never been better, fighting PAF in Azad Kashmir JUST WOW. Everything is open now. Pakistan Forces will have to now take into consideration IAF strike packages during peace times. They will have to secure their non state actors as well that would mean increased costs.
Some one attacks Mumbai, Lahor and Karachi will see action.
Now the next Indian Govt.s will have pressure as to why they didn’t cross the boundary when Modi could.

LOL. No problem for next Indian Govt.s. just drop some bombs on some random trees over the LOC and get a guy with biggest turban I've ever seen to anounce that 300 terrorists were killed by the mighty IAF. Matters little that not a single independent satalite image has confirmed this. Then when the IAF gets its butt swiped in the retaliation present misiles fired by the enemy as proof that the IAF shot down enemy aircraft (thats got to be first in the history of air warfare - well done IAF) while the enemy is parading actual captured IAF pilots and their shot down mounts and if anyone dares question this pile of lies just shut them up by calling them a traitor. It's a tried and tested formula that works every time on a population overdosing on Bollywood.

 

[aliyusuf]

I am truly astonished at the Indian capacity for irrationalism, jingoism and megalomania. What can you expect from a nation, where a genocidal killer of Muslims in Gujrat is elected as the PM of India. In stark contrast, no ultra right wing political force ever won anything significant here in Pakistan neither at the center nor in the provinces.

So these sort of twisted responses from Indian members should not come as a surprise to any of us and should, in fact, be expected.

All I can say to such perturbed & demented souls from across the border is that they should re-read the post #7172 of the current thread by @The Deterrent … and try to analyze what is being said from their own Indian sources by removing the cobwebs and smokescreen of Hindutva + Patriotic Propaganda.

When Abhinandan was initially captured, there were even certain Indian members who even refused to admit he was a fighter pilot by stating the unsuitability of the Abhinandan's moustache.

For the last decade or so, all we would get from Indian posters in almost every thread … MKI is this and MKI is that blah blah blah … ad infinitum ad nauseam ad mortem.

There favorite Bollywood terms of "ghus ke marenge", "surgical strike" and "cold start" etc., and then analyze the stark change in tone being depicted in the articles referred to by @The Deterrent in post number #7172. What brought about that change in tone? Some would say that it is a ploy for Rafales. They would be deluding themselves if they believed that. No one in there right mind would belittle their own forces and current air fleet in this manner. What would they say when they lose a Rafale in some future clash?

After 27th of Feb, it was initially silence … then sneaky excuses … then gradually culminating into characteristic twisting of facts and blind irrational urge to deny and obfuscate the truth.

Typically Indian, I guess.

 

[Rakesh]

We believe, what we want to believe. There are so many versions of what happened on that day.
But for two professional air force, what does it mean ?
PAF used 'almost' all types of available resources for the attack (as stated by DGISPR). So, what next ? PAF must be searching for the answer. They will have to enhance the capabilities from now onwards.
IAF now knows, the kind of responses from PAF (or there may be some more surprises). They will bargain hard with govt for more resources.
It will be interesting to see future course of actions by two air forces.

 

[GumNaam]

We believe, what we want to believe. There are so many versions of what happened on that day.
But for two professional air force, what does it mean ?
PAF used 'almost' all types of available resources for the attack (as stated by DGISPR). So, what next ? PAF must be searching for the answer. They will have to enhance the capabilities from now onwards.
IAF now knows, the kind of responses from PAF (or there may be some more surprises). They will bargain hard with govt for more resources.
It will be interesting to see future course of actions by two air forces.

Uhm NO! there are many versions of what "india" believes what happened. The rest of the world believe in just ONE version...PAF smacked the living snot outta your bharat mata's vayu sena in broad daylight!

We always have been and always will be 10 steps ahead of you, be it, air, land, sea or under the sea.

 

[alee92nawaz]

I am truly astonished at the Indian capacity for irrationalism, jingoism and megalomania. What can you expect from a nation, where a genocidal killer of Muslims in Gujrat is elected as the PM of India. In stark contrast, no ultra right wing political force ever won anything significant here in Pakistan neither at the center nor in the provinces.

So these sort of twisted responses from Indian members should not come as a surprise to any of us and should, in fact, be expected.

All I can say to such perturbed & demented souls from across the border is that they should re-read the post #7172 of the current thread by @The Deterrent … and try to analyze what is being said from their own Indian sources by removing the cobwebs and smokescreen of Hindutva + Patriotic Propaganda.

When Abhinandan was initially captured, there were even certain Indian members who even refused to admit he was a fighter pilot by stating the unsuitability of the Abhinandan's moustache.

For the last decade or so, all we would get from Indian posters in almost every thread … MKI is this and MKI is that blah blah blah … ad infinitum ad nauseam ad mortem.

There favorite Bollywood terms of "ghus ke marenge", "surgical strike" and "cold start" etc., and then analyze the stark change in tone being depicted in the articles referred to by @The Deterrent in post number #7172. What brought about that change in tone? Some would say that it is a ploy for Rafales. They would be deluding themselves if they believed that. No one in there right mind would belittle their own forces and current air fleet in this manner. What would they say when they lose a Rafale in some future clash?

After 27th of Feb, it was initially silence … then sneaky excuses … then gradually culminating into characteristic twisting of facts and blind irrational urge to deny and obfuscate the truth.

Typically Indian, I guess.

Rafale ki dalali ho rahi hy. Hard to believe that Mirages , mig 29s etc etc are not good enough for india. they used to celebrate an alleged missile lock by mig 29 on an F-16 in 1999. According to them mig 21 was good enough for F-15s. They are under playing I guess. In result are just insulting their forces.

 

[NA71]

By the Air strike Modi’s graph against coalition has increased manifolds. In fact there is no one near him.
The situation for Indian forces has never been better, fighting PAF in Azad Kashmir JUST WOW. Everything is open now. Pakistan Forces will have to now take into consideration IAF strike packages during peace times. They will have to secure their non state actors as well that would mean increased costs.
Some one attacks Mumbai, Lahor and Karachi will see action.
Now the next Indian Govt.s will have pressure as to why they didn’t cross the boundary when Modi could.

Shocking ....despite beaten heavily ...your own media crying, your own experts on TV saying PAF did not deter by Indian Military might, PAF retaliated in daylight and targeted military installations, your PM & IAF chief is asking for Rafales. You are saying JUST WOW.

Pakistan forces will not take any consideration other than treating your pilots with fantastic tea.

 

[aliyusuf]

We believe, what we want to believe. There are so many versions of what happened on that day.
But for two professional air force, what does it mean ?
PAF used 'almost' all types of available resources for the attack (as stated by DGISPR). So, what next ? PAF must be searching for the answer. They will have to enhance the capabilities from now onwards.
IAF now knows, the kind of responses from PAF (or there may be some more surprises). They will bargain hard with govt for more resources.
It will be interesting to see future course of actions by two air forces.

Have nothing against you or your post, but kindly pardon me if I don't attest your point of view. Given the decade long BS we have been getting from your fellow countrymen on this forum and the number of summersaults you people have been making of late in putting across your arguments and narratives.

May take a while before your words of bravado and narrative will carry any weight or credibility with us.

 

[mshan44]

 

[Imran Khan]

We believe, what we want to believe. There are so many versions of what happened on that day.
But for two professional air force, what does it mean ?
PAF used 'almost' all types of available resources for the attack (as stated by DGISPR). So, what next ? PAF must be searching for the answer. They will have to enhance the capabilities from now onwards.
IAF now knows, the kind of responses from PAF (or there may be some more surprises). They will bargain hard with govt for more resources.
It will be interesting to see future course of actions by two air forces.

 

[The Accountant]

We’ll continue to hear counters to this info in terms of “things have changed”; but both fixes to the general obsolescence of the Sukhoi’s electronics and fighting concepts along with Rafale being integrated into their Orbat will take 5 years easily.

But similar time will be taken by Block 3, PL15 and other goodies (considering blk 3 will start joining in 2 to 3 years time and 2 to 3 years for training developing and learning tactics with new goodies) ... But we definitely need to upgrade our vipers to V standard in the similar time fram to keep a strong punch