27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[NA71]

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[Mr.Cringeworth]

i read tom cooper comment from f-16.net on this 27 feb situation.actually he isn't a fan of paf pilots but he made an interesting point about awacs.....

"There was no 'dogfight' on 27 February.
The PAF was 'orbiting' on one side of the LOC, the IAF on the other. Then the PAF found an opportune moment: Su-30MKIs were heading in opposite direction (one can't orbit in direction of the opponent all the time), and it appeared to the Pakistanis that nobody is airborne over Srinagar. So, they sent 4 F-16s 'in'.

As these 4 F-16s moved in, the Su-30MKIs turned to intercept, in turn prompting the other 4 F-16s to engage them. That's how it happened few AIM-120C-5s 'migrated to India'. But, since AMRAAMs were fired from 30km+ away, all missed.

Furthermore, the problem is there's a mountain chain with 4,000m (that's about 13,000ft) high peaks in between the LOC and Srinagar. Thus, the PAF AWACS missed the IAF scrambling several MiG-21s from Awantipora FOB and Srinagar AB in response to ingressing F-16s. Yes, ladies and gentlemen: contrary to video games, in reality radars can't see through mountains. First surprise here, I guess.

So, when the MiGs climbed over that mountain chain... 'surprise, surprise': they found themselves at 15,000ft+ - high above F-16s that were ingressing at about 7,000ft. The lead MiG dove, ignoring the fact he's crossing the LOC while doing so, one of F-16s came up towards the MiG. What happened next is unclear.

...that is: until the moments captured on several cell-phones, showing that MiG going down in flames".

Link please?

 

[1Paki$tani]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1111145074841268224

 

[The Accountant]

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This is a shitting piece of information for me ... I was always of the view that we are very backward in satellite tech and this guy is telling me that Pakistan communication network is satellite based ... What a hell of discovery for Pakistanies ...

I think Indian government has no job but to bash Pakistan ... Inko susu bhi na arha tu Pakistan per ilzaam laga dety hain

 

[graphican]

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Pakistan has wrapped this guy all around! Even thought he apparently hates but in reality he lives and breaths Pakistan.

 

[Path-Finder]

 

[Arsalan 345]

Link please?

http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=413924&sid=2beaffaa44a47747fcbf62770b43f3ab#p413924

 

[The Eagle]

i read tom cooper comment from f-16.net on this 27 feb situation.actually he isn't a fan of paf pilots but he made an interesting point about awacs.....

"There was no 'dogfight' on 27 February.
The PAF was 'orbiting' on one side of the LOC, the IAF on the other. Then the PAF found an opportune moment: Su-30MKIs were heading in opposite direction (one can't orbit in direction of the opponent all the time), and it appeared to the Pakistanis that nobody is airborne over Srinagar. So, they sent 4 F-16s 'in'.

As these 4 F-16s moved in, the Su-30MKIs turned to intercept, in turn prompting the other 4 F-16s to engage them. That's how it happened few AIM-120C-5s 'migrated to India'. But, since AMRAAMs were fired from 30km+ away, all missed.

Furthermore, the problem is there's a mountain chain with 4,000m (that's about 13,000ft) high peaks in between the LOC and Srinagar. Thus, the PAF AWACS missed the IAF scrambling several MiG-21s from Awantipora FOB and Srinagar AB in response to ingressing F-16s. Yes, ladies and gentlemen: contrary to video games, in reality radars can't see through mountains. First surprise here, I guess.

So, when the MiGs climbed over that mountain chain... 'surprise, surprise': they found themselves at 15,000ft+ - high above F-16s that were ingressing at about 7,000ft. The lead MiG dove, ignoring the fact he's crossing the LOC while doing so, one of F-16s came up towards the MiG. What happened next is unclear.

...that is: until the moments captured on several cell-phones, showing that MiG going down in flames".

Every party has to insist upon their respective product. Like, I don't see India accepts the beating into the hands of JF-17. Stories & stories all over.

 

[Khafee]

i read tom cooper comment from f-16.net on this 27 feb situation.actually he isn't a fan of paf pilots but he made an interesting point about awacs.....

"There was no 'dogfight' on 27 February.
The PAF was 'orbiting' on one side of the LOC, the IAF on the other. Then the PAF found an opportune moment: Su-30MKIs were heading in opposite direction (one can't orbit in direction of the opponent all the time), and it appeared to the Pakistanis that nobody is airborne over Srinagar. So, they sent 4 F-16s 'in'.

As these 4 F-16s moved in, the Su-30MKIs turned to intercept, in turn prompting the other 4 F-16s to engage them. That's how it happened few AIM-120C-5s 'migrated to India'. But, since AMRAAMs were fired from 30km+ away, all missed.

Furthermore, the problem is there's a mountain chain with 4,000m (that's about 13,000ft) high peaks in between the LOC and Srinagar. Thus, the PAF AWACS missed the IAF scrambling several MiG-21s from Awantipora FOB and Srinagar AB in response to ingressing F-16s. Yes, ladies and gentlemen: contrary to video games, in reality radars can't see through mountains. First surprise here, I guess.

So, when the MiGs climbed over that mountain chain... 'surprise, surprise': they found themselves at 15,000ft+ - high above F-16s that were ingressing at about 7,000ft. The lead MiG dove, ignoring the fact he's crossing the LOC while doing so, one of F-16s came up towards the MiG. What happened next is unclear.

...that is: until the moments captured on several cell-phones, showing that MiG going down in flames".

Don't believe everything you read online. Everybody wants to show that they have a "source," or "sources" just to feed their overinflated ego. Doesn't matter how far it is from the truth, or how stupid they look when saying "AMRAAM's failed when fired from 30km+", cherry on the cake: not one, but "FEW"

@Tps43 @Signalian Check out the goras version of events, seems they like desi too!

 

[Khafee]

another google champion.

Google is making people stupid, no doubting that. They have given up using common sense.

 

[Windjammer]

I think everyone around the world knows which nation is a story teller. Lying about facts has been deeply instilled in the government/dictatorship across the border, Whether it be the 86/87 f-16 crash/shot down incident or be it any other incident/skirmishes/wars with the neighbours.

Yea and you with a fake ID have the face to make these accusations,.

 

[Khafee]

I am disappointed by level of general knowledge of very senior members , guy always think out of box and use common sense and use IT for knowledge gain.
I recommend promotion of members should not be on basis of no posts but quality of posts.

Absence of Marit system is biggest problem of Pakistan!

"Marit System" exists only on Mars, Pls migrate.

 

[Maarkhoor]

i read tom cooper comment from f-16.net on this 27 feb situation.actually he isn't a fan of paf pilots but he made an interesting point about awacs.....

"There was no 'dogfight' on 27 February.
The PAF was 'orbiting' on one side of the LOC, the IAF on the other. Then the PAF found an opportune moment: Su-30MKIs were heading in opposite direction (one can't orbit in direction of the opponent all the time), and it appeared to the Pakistanis that nobody is airborne over Srinagar. So, they sent 4 F-16s 'in'.

As these 4 F-16s moved in, the Su-30MKIs turned to intercept, in turn prompting the other 4 F-16s to engage them. That's how it happened few AIM-120C-5s 'migrated to India'. But, since AMRAAMs were fired from 30km+ away, all missed.

Furthermore, the problem is there's a mountain chain with 4,000m (that's about 13,000ft) high peaks in between the LOC and Srinagar. Thus, the PAF AWACS missed the IAF scrambling several MiG-21s from Awantipora FOB and Srinagar AB in response to ingressing F-16s. Yes, ladies and gentlemen: contrary to video games, in reality radars can't see through mountains. First surprise here, I guess.

So, when the MiGs climbed over that mountain chain... 'surprise, surprise': they found themselves at 15,000ft+ - high above F-16s that were ingressing at about 7,000ft. The lead MiG dove, ignoring the fact he's crossing the LOC while doing so, one of F-16s came up towards the MiG. What happened next is unclear.

...that is: until the moments captured on several cell-phones, showing that MiG going down in flames".

Which fiction you are reading Sir? I am 100% sure someone high on Gau Muttar wrote this and you took it as gospel of truth.

 

[Windjammer]

Please don't quote me unless you have something constructive to add. Counter with facts , not with childish jibes.

Fact is your week end warriors are waving a piece of AMRAAM missile as a proof that F-16 were used.
Go and ask them did they find it amongst the Mi-17 wreckage or the SU-30 remains.
Then come back with your rants.

 

[Imran Khan]

The Mi-17 incident is still under investigation, so don't worry about that. As for the Su 30, nothing happened to it. If it would have crashed in Kashmir , it would be all over the news as internet still works there but can't say the same for Azad Kashmir , they have had their internet turned off for sometimes , so a F-16 crashing there , wouldn't even make the news. Perfect cover up for our special neighbours.

Wow what a pathtic lie . Internet is block in indian occupaid kashmir not in azad kashmir