1973 Ramadan war: Plans of liquidation of the "gap" - comprehensive "Chaamil" plan

[mahatir]

There is different between me and the likes of the Arabs or are poisoned by the nationalitic propaganda like we have in Iraq

Like the saying"people like to live in lies that makes them happy rather than face the truth which will make them miserable"

Now you started to make some sense , most arab countries are facing issues no doubt but some governments started moving on the right road like Morroco and recently Egypt . Nasserism ruined many Arab economies no dought but this era has ended with the fall of Saddam and destruction of Syria . The only state that stills follows backward socialist principles is Algeria but eventually they will wake up after running out of gas .

 

[SALMAN F]

Well, I do understand that Iraq was sadly smashed by the US and its international coalition.. So do not and your friend Salman F try to put others in the same bag.. please read the thread and do not try to derail it.. I love Iraq as much as I love Egypt.. and this thread was overdue to show that Egypt has won the October Ramadan war of 1973 with proof, to thwart all Usraeli propaganda and educate others who might be or fall victims to that propaganda..

You only won in your dreams saddam also claimed that he defeated America in Kuwait do I believe him because he said so??

 

[mahatir]

Algeria is arab speaking country and it's member in the arab league I know in recent years many north Africans started to deny the arab identity for another identity

Same applies on Syria , Lebanese , Egyptians and even Libyans , they deny their

You only won in your dreams saddam also claimed that he defeated America in Kuwait do I believe him because he said so??

SC explained in detail how Egypt won the war with facts and maps. IF you believe otherwise you should refute the arguments he presented . Egypt plan was to advance and hold a region 10-15 KM inside sinai and control canal Suez entrance which was achieved and then regain remaining occupied land through negotiation . They succeeded in Achieving their military and diplomatic goals which means they won at the end .

Today Israel is not really Egypt's enemy , the real enemy targeting and harming Egypt interests are Islamist groups like MB funded by Qatar . These are the very same groups that destroyed Iraq , Syria and Libya .

Unforenately I was fooled by this Arab spring , turned out it was more of an Islamist spring .

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Who told you I am not arab ? I have presented facts about Egypt with numbers and videos from various sources while your silly Iraqi friend just threw in a statement that only applies on Iraq and Syria .

He stated the following:

Egypt is not different from the countries you mentioned
In fact they don't have war yet their situation is miserable

Which is true, Egypt is in a bad state like many other ME states. If you call their state good then you're aiming for shit despite anything you're posting here.

Well, I do understand that Iraq was sadly smashed by the US and its international coalition.. So do not and your friend Salman F try to put others in the same bag.. please read the thread and do not try to derail it.. I love Iraq as much as I love Egypt.. and this thread was overdue to show that Egypt has won the October Ramadan war of 1973 with proof, to thwart all Usraeli propaganda and educate others who might be or fall victims to that propaganda..

You're talking about a political victory? Not military victory.

 

[mahatir]

He stated the following:

Egypt is not different from the countries you mentioned
In fact they don't have war yet their situation is miserable

Which is true, Egypt is in a bad state like many other ME states. If you call their state good then you're aiming for shit despite anything you're posting here.
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I responded back to him with facts , sources , videos and proof that Egypt economic situation has improved greatly since 2014 until today . I agree Egypt faced problems between 2011 and 2014 as a result of 2 revolutions and terrorism problem in northern Sinai which were all funded external powers . Anyway from 2014-2017 the situation has improved on all fronts whether security or economy especially when Egypt started an economic reform plan that helped improved its foreign reserves, budget deficit and trade balance . please read the post below before writing bullshit that makes no sense .

I will list below some of the major strategic projects currently being undertaken in Egypt

1) A joint venture between Egypt Suez authority and DP to develop industrial zones in Suez canal for light , medium and heavy industries all of which will allow Egypt increase its exports in the future .
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/dp-world-suez-canal-authority-in-jv-to-develop-new-projects/

2) Major economic reforms implemented which will remove wasteful subsidies eventually in the long run will help Egypt reduce its budget deficit . Moody credit agency rated Egypt standing as stable after the recent economic reforms .
https://dailynewsegypt.com/2017/08/09/first-goals-egypt-economy-reform-plan-met-says-bnp-paribas/
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCon...my/Moodys-affirms-Egypts-B-credit-rating.aspx

3) Egyptian Chinese industrial zone in Suez Canal already first phase is operating , china planned a total of 5 billion investments in this zone in various light medium and heavy industries .
https://dailynewsegypt.com/2016/03/...strial-zone-projected-attract-5bn-investment/





4) Eastern Portsaid project , first phase will be completed by between next December and February .
The project includes increasing the size of the port road size to 5 KM and developing 10 industrial zones over 40 million square meters in various industries , the first 4 million square meter will be ready by the end of this year . The goverment is also close to completing 4 major tunnels between Sinai and main land Egypt.

This is just a part of a big project aimed at developing industrial zones over a span of 6 main ports over a size of 450 KM square .

5) Russians are planning to invest around 5 billion dollars in a Russian industrial zone to take advantage of the strategic canal suez development project . Egypt will serve as major center for Russia exports to Africa and Middle east

https://sputniknews.com/business/201707111055429592-russia-egypt-industrial-zone/
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-07/12/c_136436144.htm

6) Article talks about competition between Russia and China on increasing investments in the new suez canal project in Egypt .
http://thediplomat.com/2017/08/sino-russian-shadow-competition-plays-out-in-egypt/

7) Example of some successful major foreign firms operating in Egypt

Samsung Elections opened in 2012 an industrial complex worth 2.5 Billion dollars in Beni Suef to use Egypt as a base to export its products to Africa and Middle east, last year their total exports from Egypt was worth 780 million dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cXvkt5Eos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cXvkt5Eos
Below statement from Samsung when they started exporting from their Egyptian branch
http://www.samsung.com/eg/news/loca...eif-exports-made-in-egypt-monitors-to-europe/

After their successful experience in Egypt Samsung decided to invest in a new plant and other major companies like LG decided to increase their investment in Egypt
https://dailynewsegypt.com/2017/07/15/home-appliance-companies-start-local-manufacturing/

Major manfacturer Toshiba has a successful experience investment in Egypt with local manufacturer el Arabi group since 30 years , El-Arabi group operates over 6 plants in Egypt in partnership with Toshiba and act as Toshiba main export Base to Africa and Middle east , they also export to European countries .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxc_JNfWmds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QxG4B9J0vM

9) Germany major manufacturer Siemens signed a 9 billion dollar deal to build 3 major gas and wind power plants producing a total of 14400 MW which will increase total electricity production in Egypt by 50%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zy_PD-Q860

The first plant started operating producing total 4800MW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrLGmT3idJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDqRhL_AV84

The first plant already completed below video .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfMzEt5qEgE

Below an explanation about the 3 major plants .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1K9N076Id4

10)
Video below explaining major infrastructure ( roads , ports , schools ,power plants ect and social housing projects )undertaken by the government and private sector , Egypt was able to increase its total road network by 25% .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2yHWka1oM&t=3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGAE5p-urgU

11) Below is an example of new industrial zones currently being set up in Egypt which concentrates on building zones for small and medium size local businesses to increase Egypt industrial output and reduce unemployment

Leather industrial complex contains 20 factories and 200 workshops to meet Egypt market and export leather products worth 300 million dollars , the project will employ around 15,000 people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c28pU8dsM94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjGg-kfdieU

Below video about opening of largest furniture manufacturing city in the middle east , the project will empoy 25,000 people and will gather most Egypt furniture local manufacturers in one location .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SADjwuHVHc&t=153s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBwCYFXSA2g&t=7275s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_Azpsa-fo0&t=201s

12) Egypt new capital city currently being built for 6.5 people people .

The video below is the plan for new capital city .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-ePo9ETHU

Videos below shows live phases being built within the project .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYak9IDCGY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxM1heP9_HU

The private sector and government are also planning to build major new cities in All Egypt provinces like the following below :
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzetmD6O2Fg
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5-oTSKaF0
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b8mjeT4lo0

Below videos from some Social housing projects for poor Egyptians , currently there is a national plan to eliminate slums in all major cities , this is a 20 years projects, the government and private sector has completed over 500,000 housing units ( apartments ) .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmbGFS42G1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcFs5J0jLxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spgCnJmCA44


What I included here is no more than 10% of what is currently being done in Egypt , this page will not be enough to cover the major projects being completed in all fields whether industry , education , infrastructure , agriculture etc .

The Egyptians are doing well and their government is mainly focused on internal development and the same time they have made major success against terrorism exported and funded by extremist countries like Iran and Qatar . Talbanized muslims whether shia or sunnis do not have the mental capacity to understand what is success except in terms of destruction and killing .

Egypt has excellent relations with both west and east and its in a good position to attract major foreign investments and funding which will further help them in reaching their strategic goals . Egypt now is moving away from backward and extremist Arab and Islamic countries like Syria , Iran , Iraq , Qatar and Algeria these countries have nothing to offer except hatred , terrorism , death and destruction .

 

[TheCamelGuy]

^^ Egypt is in a state of shit, like the rest of the region minus some rich Gulf States.

Regards.

 

[The SC]

There is different between me and the likes of the Arabs or are poisoned by the nationalitic propaganda like we have in Iraq

Like the saying"people like to live in lies that makes them happy rather than face the truth which will make them miserable"

I agree with you, but it is not the case of the 1973 war.. but in other places other circumstances and other context that applies very well..

 

[mahatir]

^^ Egypt is in a state of shit, like the rest of the region minus some rich Gulf States.

Regards.

I replied back with evidence and sources , posting silly statements like this wount change actual events on the ground , anyway its your point of view .

Regards

 

[The SC]

You only won in your dreams saddam also claimed that he defeated America in Kuwait do I believe him because he said so??

Facts speak for themselves in both cases..so stop trolling..it won't get you anywhere..

^^ Egypt is in a state of shit, like the rest of the region minus some rich Gulf States.

Regards.

Egypt is doing good, hopefully Iraq will start doing good too soon..

 

[Ceylal]

Algeria is arab speaking country and it's member in the arab league I know in recent years many north Africans started to deny the arab identity for another identity

There is big difference between an illegitimate gouvernement to seek legitimacy from the Arabs, and a population that doesn't recognize that her lineage is Arab! If Algerians were Arabs, Algeria would have stayed à French department, with American and NATO bases on her soil...Algeria is free from West slavery because of her sons and daughters, not because Bouteflika and the presidents that preceded him!

Algeria is an Arab country who are you fooling clown ?

شعب الجزائر مسلم شعب الجزائر مسلم
و الى العروبة ينتسب و الى العروبة ينتسب

من قال حاد عن أصله أو قال مات فقد كذب
أو رام ادماجا له رام المحال من الطلب

يا نشأ أنت رجاؤنا و بك الصباح قد اقترب
خذ للحياة سلاحها و خض الخطوب و لا تهب

و أرفع منار العدل و الا حسان و اصدم من غضب
و أذق نفوس الظالمين السم يمزج بالرهب

و اقلع جذور الخائنين فمنهم كل العطب
و اهزز نفوس الجامدين فربما حيي الخشب

من كان يبغي ودنا فله الكرامة و الرحب
أو كان يبغي ذلنا فله المهانة و الحرب

هذا نظام حياتنا بالنور خط و باللهب
حتى يعود لقومنا من مجدهم ما قد ذهب

هذا لكم عهدي به حتى أوسد في الترب
فاذا هلكت فصيحتي تحيا الجزائر و العرب

As I said before you suffer from identity crises due to forced french assimilation .

We are Arab as you are a Muslim Arab...
There were Hannibal, Kouceila, Tarik inn Ziyad,Ibn Khaldoun, St Augustin...and many others, why do you name just Ben Badis? Benbadis was a Berber that called on the Berbers to rise against the French under the banner of Islam..He didn't say that Algerians are Arabs, he said Algeria has a kinship with Arabs..not Arabs..that the meaning of wa ila el 3ourouba yentasib! Quadrupède!

The only Arab who got smashed here is you with your defeatist mentality.. did you bother read the first post, or is military strategies and tactics and reality beyond your grasp.. it is very stupid and provocative what you say.. so why are you pretending to be an Arab.. or are you a jealous Arab with no self respect even when confronted with reality.. your posts are always in the forms zidzags in every thread.. I can understand that the war in Iraq has taken a toll on your capacity to think, but at least try to be honest..

Wow! swat el Arab is well and alive..Arabs are born defeated..its in the genes..not much you can do about that...

 

[mahatir]

There is big difference between an illegitimate gouvernement to seek legitimacy from the Arabs, and a population that doesn't recognize that her lineage is Arab! If Algerians were Arabs, Algeria would have stayed à French department, with American and NATO bases on her soil...Algeria is free from West slavery because of her sons and daughters, not because Bouteflika and the presidents that preceded him!


We are Arab as you are a Muslim Arab...
There were Hannibal, Kouceila, Tarik inn Ziyad,Ibn Khaldoun, St Augustin...and many others, why do you name just Ben Badis? Benbadis was a Berber that called on the Berbers to rise against the French under the banner of Islam..He didn't say that Algerians are Arabs, he said Algeria has a kinship with Arabs..not Arabs..that the meaning of wa ila el 3ourouba yentasib! Quadrupède!


Wow! swat el Arab is well and alive..Arabs are born defeated..its in the genes..not much you can do about that...

Yentasib means belong to Arabs , Algeria is an Arabic country , basically the Arabs took over present day Algeria and Arabized people living there . Same applies on Egypt , Syria and Palestine , all these countries genetically are not Arabs but they were arabized .

 

[Ceylal]

Yentasib means belong to Arabs , Algeria is an Arabic country , basically the Arabs took over present day Algeria and Arabized people living there . Same applies on Egypt , Syria and Palestine , all these countries genetically are not Arabs but they were arabized .

Yantasib, doesn't mean belong ya bghal..does mean a kinship..and the only kinship we have with the Arabs is Islam..no more no less..You should have read what Ibn Khaldoun said about them...Not Benbadiss who is born in Algeria and had never met an Arab or lived with them like Ibn Khaldoun did!
Learning Arabic or speaking Arabic doesn't affect your DNS idiot!
From the Nile and moving East to the Atlantic Ocean , all the inhabitants are Berbers..Study of the Tunisian DNA, where the Arabs lived and settled before the whole North Africa became a Moslem and before the conquest of Spain, showed that the presence of Arab DNA in Tunisian was negligible and the study came out about Year and half ago, and there is a thread posted on the subject..ya chadi!

 

[mahatir]

Yantasib, doesn't mean belong ya bghal..does mean a kinship..and the only kinship we have with the Arabs is Islam..no more no less..You should have read what Ibn Khaldoun said about them...Not Benbadiss who is born in Algeria and had never met an Arab or lived with them like Ibn Khaldoun did!
Learning Arabic or speaking Arabic doesn't affect your DNS idiot!
From the Nile and moving East to the Atlantic Ocean , all the inhabitants are Berbers..Study of the Tunisian DNA, where the Arabs lived and settled before the whole North Africa became a Moslem and before the conquest of Spain, showed that the presence of Arab DNA in Tunisian was negligible and the study came out about Year and half ago, and there is a thread posted on the subject..ya chadi!

I think your either an asshole or a douchebag but that would be a complement you dont deserve.
I was very specific in what I wrote, yes the people of Egypt , Tunisia , Algeria , Syria , Morrocco are not originally Arabs but they were Arabized by Arabs through religion , this has nothing to do with changing DNA ya 7'awal .

 

[SALMAN F]

الصراحة بعض العرب اوساخ بالدات الاسلاميين منهم مؤيدين قطر و ايران ولاد الكلب دمروا بلادهم بالطائفية و الحقد . مصر و المغرب و الاردن و الجزائر الدول الوحيدة الى فيها الجيوش مبنية على عقيدة وطنية مع اختلاف التوجهات السياسية . مصر كانت و مازالت مستهدفة بسبب عقيدة الجيش الوطنية الى تحاول قطر و الاخوان تغييرها لعقيدة طائفية حتى يلزقوا مصر في صراعات مدهبية و دينية زى العراق و سوريا و السودان

الجيش المصري اداة بيد الطغاة و لا يختلف عن غيره من جيوش العرب

 

[Ceylal]

I think your either an asshole or a douchebag but that would be a complement you dont deserve.
I was very specific in what I wrote, yes the people of Egypt , Tunisia , Algeria , Syria , Morrocco are not originally Arabs but they were Arabized by Arabs through religion , this has nothing to do with changing DNA ya 7'awal .

The douche bag is that what your mother uses to get high and the asshole is your food point of entry!
after zouk el Arab, seif the crabs, you become Mahatir now...