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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    True. You think the society's intelligentsia's liberal? Its pseudo-liberal at best, with underlying tones of religion. Yes, what does liberalism has to do with preferential treatment to women seriously? Ok study but don't work is the new mantra for the hyper-religious and religious alike out...
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    How do Bangladeshis view 1965 war?

    Feel free. I have no emotional attachment with Bangladesh. Yes my father came from that land but well that's it. But please remember to recognize your mistakes too, don't take an unrealistic and contrary to facts view of the whole situation back then.
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    The entire thread is based on the criticism of a famous religious book written specially for guidance of women (though it isn't limited at that). One side points out that the book is largely irrelevant today because most don't even understand the complicated Urdu used in the book and since...
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    Mate, the difference of opinion is no problem for me at all. Its all in good taste. I have a different idea of religion and focus more on critical free thinking and then following something or someone. You would now bring PDF threads as a representative of what happens in the real world? If...
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    Then perhaps you both are mistaking peace with silence, apathy and disassociation. Raising your voice against injustices won't be term violent or unpeaceful. It happens that the tableeghis don't consider it their mandate to even opt for a slight role in political matters. Why ask them to become...
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    Spy center busted in Rawalpindi

    Apparently, people have conveniently forgotten the time when the stolen goods, kidnapped people were taken to and drugs weapons imported from illaqa-e-gher. The terror economy in Waziristan existed long before Musharraf even thought of entering the tribal belt.
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    Forgive me, I don't take very kindly to compromise and rationalizing something which is wrong on the face of it. The historical context and condition of Muslims might be a valid excuse, but that doesn't explain why a religiously knowledgeable person like Maulana Thanwi would start agreeing with...
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    Political Columns

    There's a book "Witness to Blunder" detailing the Kargil war and overestimation/oversimplifications of the military's top brass (or more importantly as it calls it - the group of four Generals). I read it a long time ago, it provides detailed story of encounters with sarcastic comments in...
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    And just how and why would any religious person take advice from liberals if that is what you have in mind? Let me try to answer that question though. Equality, freedom and opportunity should mark the practices by which the modern society looks at the role of women. It is important to note that...
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    I would ask you to read what I have posted from his book and then determine if the fiqh was right, even with the historical context, even in an age where in the extreme a women would burn down with her husband. Why become wrong yourself when trying to inhibit wrongs? The basic idea of the need...
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    The question is that in the process of enlightening people about religion and worldly life in age of illiteracy and ignorance, why start having thoughts like them so to start rationalizing and compromising on key matters? Why agree with people to carry forward your argument if they are wrong in...
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    This is why Madrassas should be Banned from Pakistan. (Video)'s.

    Indoctrination, brainwashing, sectarianism, radicalization, terrorism and extremism. Really, whats worse? I am telling you to lay it on us, since you obviously wish to post such videos, post them. I doubt you can get far with a few incidents of sexual abuse, a heinous crime in themselves but...
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    This is why Madrassas should be Banned from Pakistan. (Video)'s.

    Feel free to post them, I doubt if anything even remotely similar to this can be seen elsewhere in such large numbers.
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    Pakistan’s stand on death penalty to hurt investment, says Germany

    And its better that we don't receive any investment from you! Since, we don't know have a better idea on what to do with these scumbags.
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    After one or two seemingly moderate post, he's back to his normal self. I have deleted that post thoug, we aren't exactly willing to teach people more violence than they already know.
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    Mate, despite the chance that you may have gotten the idea of "mockery of religion" from my aggressive tone or criticism, that hasn't been my intention. The entire time I have been here or every single post I have made, the criticism and anger has been directed at the author of the book for...
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    Look at the logic: I acknowledge that what he's saying is there but the authors a fraud and a liar for pointing it out! I am amazed, again.
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    How is the author of the article a cheater, fraudster and liar for pointing out things which you yourself acknowledge now are there in the book? What was with the "he has been exposed many times part" if your own opinion regarding the presence of such things in the said book has changed so...
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    Society, Women and Behashti Zewar

    Without any knowledge? Seriously? How do we assume that? Because I have read the book in detail by now and the more I read it, the more I am astonished at the narrow mindedness and disregard for women shown in its text. Most of you claim how Islam is very easy to understand and act upon yet when...
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    After Army’s Myanmar strike, Rathore tweets: ‘Message to Pak, #56inchrocks’

    I still live in this country, don't I?
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