Zia ul Haq my grandfather

[SQ8]

Yes Yes and still same mighty USA begging Afghan Taliban for talks and ran away from Iraq so sad

They were running out of Jihadis to kill, after they realized that certain areas are happy being animals and dont deserve help. Best to let these animals be and kill themselves out. Soon these Jihadis will attack each other kill children by cutting their heads off and saying "Allah o Akbar". This is their Islam.

 

[Zarvan]

So? Millions attended the funeral of Stalin does that mean he was also a lion of Islam? Emotionally weak people like you are perfectly easy to brainwash.

Sir this is not the forum I would love to expose you on facebook

 

[SarthakGanguly]

You better not say anything against Zia ul Haq otherwise @Hyperion would go ape-sh*t on you !

You don't know do you that he even named his first born son as Zia ul Haq Hyperion & his first born daughter as Zia-rina Hyperion !

And if that wasn't enough hes started a political party where the prime aim is to rename Pakistan as Zia-istan !

But I'm sure you - my Brother - will ensure that we make Pakistan as the Republic of Buttistan as we always dreamed of !

If you start getting beaten up by Hypi - tag me, will send you a heli to evac you to my place

As for General Zia, I don't have a very strong opinion about him. But in retrospect...before him Pakistan was considered and was a more prosperous, vibrant and free country than India. I mean good economy, reasonable stability, free market economy etc...as compared to India's failing economy, Hindu rate of growth (2~3% GPD growth only), corrupt and inefficient Government(the Emergency), socialist state that stifled economic progress etc.

After 10 years, all that changed.

 

[Jaanbaz]

No such claim was made by Gen. Zia. Please avoid putting your words in someone's else mouth. Several hundred of other soldiers and officers of Pakistan Army have been blown up into pieces in several wars/battles/skirmishes; were they also on the agenda of uprooting Qadyanis?

Mullahs definitely made this claim on behalf of Zia, please don't deny it. Also don't deny what kind of tactics he used against Ahmadis. There was a strong rumour amongst Ahmadi soldiers that Zia had planned to turn Rabwah into a concentration camp. He investigated and tried to find how Jamaat Ahmadiyya was financed, he wanted to find a connection with Israel or UK etc.

As for normal Pakistani soldiers who have died fighting for saving Pakistan, they are true martyrs. I have always had huge respect for these sons of Pakistan.

 

[SQ8]

Fighting against an invader was/is every bit legitimate. Please don't make mockery of their cause. What would you have done had your country was under attack by an invader?

Not try fighting a LGB with an AK-47. Them being invaded was their own fault, their backward mentality and support for terrorists is what got them there in the first place.

 

[Zarvan]

Not try fighting a LGB with an AK-47. Them being invaded was their own fault, their backward mentality and support for terrorists is what got them there in the first place.

Yes like us they should have accepted humiliation acted like good slaves sold muslims for dollars

 

[Zarvan]

Mullahs definitely made this claim on behalf of Zia, please don't deny it. Also don't deny what kind of tactics he used against Ahmadis. There was a strong rumour amongst Ahmadi soldiers that Zia had planned to turn Rabwah into a concentration camp. He investigated and tried to find how Jamaat Ahmadiyya was financed, he wanted to find a connection with Israel or UK etc.

As for normal Pakistani soldiers who have died fighting for saving Pakistan, they are true martyrs. I have always had huge respect for these sons of Pakistan.

O cut the crap you qadyanis don't consider others Muslims and Zia did right I would love to have a debate on FB

 

[Jaanbaz]

Sir this is not the forum I would love to expose you on facebook

I have an old you tube account where I have exposed your kind over and over. People like you are very easy to deal with.

 

[Zarvan]

O cut the crap you qadyanis don't consider others Muslims and Zia did right I would love to have a debate on FB

@Oscar close the thread it has served the purpose

 

[Jaanbaz]

O cut the crap you qadyanis don't consider others Muslims and Zia did right I would love to have a debate on FB

Mister the fact is you always have to bring theological debate proves you stand on nothing. I still consider you a Muslim albeit a misguided one. But it will be truly up to Allah who will decide who goes to hell or Heaven. First we should try becoming a decent human being. What is the point of being Muslim, Hindu, Christian or a Jew if you hate humanity? I don't think Allah will appreciate if you hate his creation.

 

[Zarvan]

I have an old you tube account where I have exposed your kind over and over. People like you are very easy to deal with.

O Mirza is known fraud and liar he was exposed long ago Mirza was basically a british stooge

 

[Jaanbaz]

O Mirza is known fraud and liar he was exposed long ago Mirza was basically a british stooge

A british stooge who killed their god, while you people keep their god alive. Who is the real agent?

 

[VCheng]

you have scant knowledge. Anyway the decision was taken much before to block USSR from further advancement by bhutto. It was a time when Musharaf was a young soldier not even a major

The point is that attributing such a strategic decision to the past when the decision-maker himself was hung is simply unlikely to be correct, unless you wish to post up a reference.

 

[Zarvan]

A british stooge who killed their god, while you people keep their god alive. Who is the real agent?

Yes because Hazrat Esa AS never died but you are a fraud and Mirza was not Esa Mirza was a liar Hazrat Esa As will not appear in South Asia you just proved Mirza a liar

 

[syedali73]

Not try fighting a LGB with an AK-47. Them being invaded was their own fault, their backward mentality and support for terrorists is what got them there in the first place.

I have zero tolerance for terrorists and several dozens of my posts are a testament of my stand. However, Afghans were hosting Bin Laden for he had helped them fighting against the Russian invaders. They did ask Americans to provide them with a proof of Bin Laden's involvement in 9/11, which Americans failed to provide. Afghans did what any honorable host would do, to protect his guest. Until today Americans have not come up with any concrete proof on the involvement of Bin Laden in 9/11 attacks. Yes Americans have destroyed Afghanistan but by the time they invaded Afghanistan, it was already destroyed. Even in US, the people have begun to consider the invasion of Afghanistan unjust, and waste of resources. Even after these many years of constant beating, Afghan freedom fighters are well and alive, the same who challenged US with their AK-47.