Zia ul Haq my grandfather

[Zarvan]

No Sir, it is ignorant people like you who try to stuff religion "as a system" down the throats of a wider society with diversity of thought and opinion and always fail. Theocracy never works. Even in the golden days gone by, Islam only flourished when it was left as a personal matter and not adopted as state policy.

Than Sir your knowledge off Islam is worse than Abu Juhal and Abu Lahab and Abdullah bin Ubai they knew Islam is a system Islam is a system which laws for everything from economy to crime to goverment to social life those ignorant western slaves want to deny it but they can't end it and they would face defeat Islam never was and never will be personal matter

 

[VCheng]

Than Sir your knowledge off Islam is worse than Abu Juhal and Abu Lahab and Abdullah bin Ubai they knew Islam is a system Islam is a system which laws for everything from economy to crime to goverment to social life those ignorant western slaves want to deny it but they can't end it and they would face defeat Islam never was and never will be personal matter

Those are only your claims not borne out by reality. All religion is a personal matter only, including Islam.

 

[Spring Onion]

It is the duty of every true Pakistani to piss on the grave of Zia up Haq.

we dont piss on graves. may be some brutal Mongols can

 

[pursuit of happiness]

No Sir, it is ignorant people like you who try to stuff religion "as a system" down the throats of a wider society with diversity of thought and opinion and always fail. Theocracy never works. Even in the golden days gone by, Islam only flourished when it was left as a personal matter and not adopted as state policy.

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thanks
very few people like you show clarity on religion and practical life

 

[Spring Onion]

I can respect his personal attributes, in that he was an observing Muslim and a kind man to those around him.

However, on a national scale, he deposed and hung an elected PM of Pakistan at the behest of foreign powers. He stoked the flames of jihad to get involved in Afghanistan so that he could rent out the Army. He destroyed the social fabric by his Hudood Ordnance which led to the Blasphemy laws. And when he outlived his utility, he was killed like the General-for-hire that he was.

Yes, he was a total disaster for Pakistan. Much of what is happening today is all his doing.

many players were involved.

Afghan jihad was decided much before him by Bhutto

 

[forcetrip]

Those are only your claims not borne out by reality. All religion is a personal matter only, including Islam.

Its not just his claims. If you consider Islam to be run by the house of saud to be true islam then I could stand corrected. Its the claims of visionless herders of sheep that has brain washed them into thinking that once their unimaginable system comes into play that every house will have rooms full of gold and become a super power. They still will not agree to which Islam holds the key to success. Will the deobandis consider to follow the Barelvi Shariah? Shouldn't they be considering to not pray in two separate mosques before talking this big game being their salvation? Not even going to talk about the other 50% of muslims which are Sufi's, Hanafi's or according to him the non muslim shia's.

 

[Zarvan]

Those are only your claims not borne out by reality. All religion is a personal matter only, including Islam.

No sir Islam is a system and it has laws for everything economy goverment trade crime and social life and leader in Islam is to be followed until and unless he follows and decides in all matters according to Quran and Sunnah but you want live with kufar your choice but we would throw this system out

 

[Zarvan]

Its not just his claims. If you consider Islam to be run by the house of saud to be true islam then I could stand corrected. Its the claims of visionless herders of sheep that has brain washed them into thinking that once their unimaginable system comes into play that every house will have rooms full of gold and become a super power. They still will not agree to which Islam holds the key to success. Will the deobandis consider to follow the Barelvi Shariah? Shouldn't they be considering to not pray in two separate mosques before talking this big game being their salvation? Not even going to talk about the other 50% of muslims which are Sufi's, Hanafi's or according to him the non muslim shia's.

It is order off ALLAH in Quran when he call those kafirs who don't decide according to what ALLAH has revealed and that if you have have fight with leader return to Quran and Sunnah

 

[forcetrip]

It is order off ALLAH in Quran when he call those kafirs who don't decide according to what ALLAH has revealed and that if you have have fight with leader return to Quran and Sunnah

Dont worry, we are doing that in this country and other countries are doing that as well. Kafirs spring up on unarmed populations and massacre them with their jihad. The extermination has begun, but it is a slow and bloody process. The order of Everyones Allah and Sunnah will come true.

 

[Zarvan]

Dont worry, we are doing that in this country and other countries are doing that as well. Kafirs spring up on unarmed populations and massacre them with their jihad. The extermination has begun, but it is a slow and bloody process. The order of Everyones Allah and Sunnah will come true.

Sir you are free to live in dreams soon they would shatter in pieces and all the laws off Quran and Sunnah would be established and secular traitors will become history

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

General Zia's dictatorship laid the foundations for the present day religious disaster in Pakistan. Let us not confuse his personal piety with these national tragedies.

Bhutto started mullah appeasement policies .. Zia put "umli jama" or paya e takmeel to it ...

One was a power greedy politician aka dictator ... The other a military dictator who clinged to power thanks to the mullahs... N his islamisation campaign..

 

[forcetrip]

Sir you are free to live in dreams soon they would shatter in pieces and all the laws off Quran and Sunnah would be established and secular traitors will become history

Let us know when that happens. As of right now, my dreams seems to be kicking your dreams behinds, worldwide.

 

[Sugarcane]

Blind hate make even sane person a tool.

 

[Zarvan]

Let us know when that happens. As of right now, my dreams seems to be kicking your dreams behinds, worldwide.

O really look how much they controlled area before 9/11 and how much after

 

[B+ Dracula]

General Zia didn't let the fire after Afghan Jihad its successive goverments who did this and main fire came after dumbo Musharraf U turn

I Personally believe that he was a good person, at least he was better than this nawaz and zardari.

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he was one awesome dude