Z-10 or T-129 Atak or AH-1Z for the Pakistan Army?

[Kompromat]

In that case we have to make sure that these choppers don't become another headache for us like the cobras and F-16's.

No, we have to make sure that our economy picks up, so we can have funds to invest into the domestic military R&D. Forigen products, no matter where you buy them from come with some sort of strings. Therefore there's is nothing better than mama's own meal !

 

[Hyperion]

F16's are not a headache beta. You only think so.

In that case we have to make sure that these choppers don't become another headache for us like the cobras and F-16's.

 

[RAMPAGE]

No, we have to make sure that our economy picks up, so we can have funds to invest into the domestic military R&D. Forigen products, no matter where you buy them from come with some sort of strings. Therefore there's is nothing better than mama's own meal !

Yes i agree. Economy should be our first priority !!!!

 

[RAMPAGE]

F16's are not a headache beta. You only think so.

Correction. They were a headache and still the sorties are still very expensive for PAF !!!

 

[Kompromat]

Correction. They were a headache and still the sorties are still very expensive for PAF !!!

Defination of being expensive depends on one's economy.

 

[Hyperion]

Beta, sorties are expensive for a reason. The reason being shitty economy. You can't blame an asset for it. They do brilliantly what they were designed for.

Did you know the annual budget of Istanbul police is twice the size of budget of (PA + PAF + PN + Rangers + Police + etc etc etc)!

Correction. They were a headache and still the sorties are still very expensive for PAF !!!

 

[Kompromat]

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[Hyperion]

Aero, yara, one thing that would be a deal-breaker is if we don't get the full ToT. I mean I'd go for the Chinese version if they offered ToT along with the package, and the Turks didn't. For us, as a country, it's imperative that we get a hang of high-tech manufacturing technologies, at any cost!

For example I, on my own, without any foreign assistance can cook up certain "key" technologies for manufacturing (some pretty awesome stuff). We need to do the same with all the equipment we purchase, knowledge and know-how is always way more important than minor-technological differences A vs B.

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[Kompromat]

Aero, yara, one thing that would be a deal-breaker is if we don't get the full ToT. I mean I'd go for the Chinese version if they offered ToT along with the package, and the Turks didn't. For us, as a country, it's imperative that we get a hang of high-tech manufacturing technologies, at any cost!

For example I, on my own, without any foreign assistance can cook up certain "key" technologies for manufacturing some pretty awesome stuff. We need to do the same with all the equipment we purchase, knowledge and know-how is always way more important than minor-technological differences A vs B.

Turks manufacture some very critical parts of this helo, and i hope they better seed this technology to Pakistan. Moreover lalaji, i have a gut feeling that this is not an ordinary deal, we are also exchanging some technology with Turkey in return. What it might be is open to debate. We have technology,Turkey urgently needs but doesn't have access to, it remains to be seen what they might be interested in.

 

[Hyperion]

Did you know that many of their designators and seekers in some of their most modern munitions are with best compliments of .............. I have more friends involved with TUBITAK, since it's inception, than I have in Pakistan!

Turks manufacture some very critical parts of this helo, and i hope they better seed this technology to Pakistan. Moreover lalaji, i have a gut feeling that this is not an ordinary deal, we are also exchanging some technology with Turkey in return. What it might be is open to debate. We have technology,Turkey urgently needs but doesn't have access to, it remains to be seen what they might be interested in.

 

[S.Y.A]

Turks manufacture some very critical parts of this helo, and i hope they better seed this technology to Pakistan. Moreover lalaji, i have a gut feeling that this is not an ordinary deal, we are also exchanging some technology with Turkey in return. What it might be is open to debate. We have technology,Turkey urgently needs but doesn't have access to, it remains to be seen what they might be interested in.

ballistic missiles?

 

[Kompromat]

@S.Y.A

Most likely Babur, especially the VLS variant, for their Navy.

 

[RAMPAGE]

@S.Y.A

Most likely Babur, especially the VLS variant, for their Navy.

VLS variant

You're saying that turkey can't build a cruise missle by itself ??

 

[Bilal.]

T-129 > WZ-10.

It carries a better weapons package on top of a state of the art sensor/avionics suite.

How is T-129 weapons package better than WZ-10? And engine would matter, since it would allow WZ-10 to carry 16 Hellfire class AKD-10 while having better armour protection and performance. As for avionics/sensor/EW again WZ-10 is at par.

 

[S.Y.A]

@S.Y.A

Most likely Babur, especially the VLS variant, for their Navy.

nope they have a CM of their own: SOM (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and about WZ-10, maybe China isnt ready to transfer the tech of its front line attack helicopter, meanwhile the turkish one is based on A129, so not much problems there