Dude, just take a breather and realize that the engine is a dire reality. Nothing that you claim will change this reality. Besides, I would trust the word of a Chinese. It's after all their domestic project and they know the ins and outs so to speak. Let's just leave it to that.
PS. I understand the frustration though.
You again?
The one in the picture was in service in PLAAF, and then be upgraded with Taihang for testing. That's not related with J-11b.
According to this all J-11's regardless of designation will be equiped with the WS-10:
Future productions of the J-11 will also be powered by the indigenous FWS-10A Taihang turbofan jet engine.
Jian-11 (J-11, Flanker) Multirole Fighter Aircraft - SinoDefence.com
Mabe you should go and find the difference between Su-27, J-11 and J-11b. They are not the same.
Firstly, i know the differences. Secondly,What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Your picture is real, and I have that picture too.
However, your logic fails because the plane in your picture IS NOT J-11B.
And you would know this by looking at the picture how? Also just to let you know an SU-27K was fitted with the WS-10, so all this SU-27, J-11, and J-11B talk is nonesense because all three were tested with the WS-10. This disscussion is about WS-10 not the differences in EW suits offered on different J-11 models.
During the 6th Zhuhai Air Show held between 31 October and 5 November 2006,
China revealed first official details about the indigenously developed FWS-10A TaiHang turbofan engine. The engine had already been successfully
tested on a modified Su-27K fighter and possibly on some J-11 airframes too. The engine is understood to be similar to the Russian Lyulka-Saturn AL-31F turbofan engine in both technology and performance. However, it is unclear whether the FWS-10A has already been fitted on the 'indigenised' variant of the J-11.
Jian-11 (J-11, Flanker) Multirole Fighter Aircraft - SinoDefence.com
I'm sorry to say that although Russians originally designed Su-27, they know nothing about J-11B
Again this has what to do with the topic? We are talking about the WS-10 and not the the differences between the J-11, J-11B ect, and when did i, or any other Russian claim to know anything other than what's published about the J-11?
This is not related to the topic, please stop.
Why not tell zagahaga to "stop" he is the instigator, it was him that insulted Russians by calling us greedy liars that needed circus training. I was mearly responding to his pethetic, childish remark. You should have told him to stop.
Because of our different culture, the Chinese goverment prefer to keep it's military powers a secret. The pictures I posted was from taken by friends in Shengyang, not published by the goverment..
Some things abaut the Chinese military is secretive such as the J-10. For example, it was not revealed it was in service for some time. However, the WS-10 is a highly publicized afair. There's pictures of the WS-10, there's interviews with people working on the WS-10, and there's WS-10's on exhibition. The WS-10 is important to the Chinese and i have no doubt that when the engine is ready, the Chinese will proudly proclaim the WS-10 to be a success.
You have your freedom to believe anything, however, you need to do some homework before you say anything.
I have done my homework well, i back up my claims with sources. Unfortunately, i can not say the same for everyone. I look at publications, articles, ect. I do NOT base my argument on speculation, nor do i base them on what color an aircraft is.
I do not know why most people on this thread are attacking me, i have
not said anything negative about the WS-10, I am
not here to put down the Chinese, and i am
not here proclaiming Russian superiority over the WS-10. However, because i beleive it is too premature to judge the progress of the WS-10 based on a picture people seem to think it is okay to start insulting both me and my country. Very classy!
To make my point clear, i do not beleive the WS-10 is ready for mass production because no official word has come from the Chinese. Moreover, the Chinese recently ordered more AL-31's. I am not saying the WS-10 is bad, nor am i saying it will never come into full production. I hope this settles it