'Wolf Warrior 2' earns $500m, breaks box office record

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

LOL, money talks and BS walks! Chinese commie are pretty capable of playing capitalist games.

Hard lesson for that guy, he's still crying for been jobless from Hollywood, if Chinese don't know how to play capitalist games, we will be lured by Americans for another plaza accord.

 

[Dungeness]

Hard lesson for that guy, he's still crying for been jobless from Hollywood, if Chinese don't know how to play capitalist games, we will be lured by Americans for another plaza accord.

Hollywood would rather let North Koreans (remake of red dawn) invade USA than piss off their 2nd largest market.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Hollywood would rather let North Koreans (remake of red dawn) invade USA than piss off their 2nd largest market.

Not only we have market to secure American big corporate interests but they know well that we're capable to outmaneuver capitalist tactic and overwritten their economy rules if needed.

 

[jhungary]

Well Xinhua is not telling the whole story. I would expect it to get 86% since almost all of the reviewers are going to be Chinese. This isn't an exclusive US audience site.

The movie has sold less than $2M in tickets in the US. Not much of a US audience to get reviews from to compare against only the 8 critics who have reviewed it.

Actually, RT (Rotten Tomatoes) only have 63% fresh rating to Wolf Warrior 2 review with 8 professional review (compare to John Wick 2 with 86% Favour with 200 reviews...), 86% is for audience rating, and it seldom goes down to less than 70% even for a bad movie, and only a few time it hit less than 50%. Usually are religion flicks.

And lol, wolf warrior is actually levelling out at 690 millions. I think it would have a problem to hit over 700 millions mark, given it was already 20 days old.

And you should really let them think Hollywood would bow down to the Chinese market, don't forget, you cannot reason with these people

Hollywood would rather let North Koreans (remake of red dawn) invade USA than piss off their 2nd largest market.

You do know why Red Dawn 2 is a failure in box office (not just in China, because it wasn't show in China) it's because they changed the prime antagonist from China to North Korea. The first thing is, they take too long to change, people are sick of waiting for a film to come out when it was finished 4 years ago. Second thing is people don't like PCing in movie, that's the reason why it did not even draw in the US, had they did not change the antagonist, they would have at least crawl back some box office in the US. And most people just could not believe North Korea can invade the US (Bear in mind it was the Russian in the first one) Some even compare the plotline of North Korea being able to invade the US as one of a comedy....

And that is a fact that even the producer Tripp Vinson admits after it failed miserably in 2013...He have expressed his regret multiple time over the switch and If I remember correctly, he apologise to MGM (Which gone bankrupt because of this movie...)

Think this would never happen again in Hollywood. Because you don't want to piss off 2nd biggest market, and in the end you got pissed off by the NUMBER 1 MARKET, and ask Tripp, he got punished for it...I think a lot of people got punished for switching from Chinese Villain to North Korean Villain.

 

[Dungeness]

You do know why Red Dawn 2 is a failure in box office (not just in China, because it wasn't show in China) it's because they changed the prime antagonist from China to North Korea. The first thing is, they take too long to change, people are sick of waiting for a film to come out when it was finished 4 years ago. Second thing is people don't like PCing in movie, that's the reason why it did not even draw in the US, had they did not change the antagonist, they would have at least crawl back some box office in the US. And most people just could not believe North Korea can invade the US (Bear in mind it was the Russian in the first one) Some even compare the plotline of North Korea being able to invade the US as one of a comedy....

And that is a fact that even the producer Tripp Vinson admits after it failed miserably in 2013...He have expressed his regret multiple time over the switch and If I remember correctly, he apologise to MGM (Which gone bankrupt because of this movie...)

Think this would never happen again in Hollywood. Because you don't want to piss off 2nd biggest market, and in the end you got pissed off by the NUMBER 1 MARKET, and ask Tripp, he got punished for it...I think a lot of people got punished for switching from Chinese Villain to North Korean Villain.

My point stays. Hollywood has to take China into consideration one way or the other. The days of "Year of Dragon", where they could demonize Chinese anyway they wanted, is long gone and will never come back. This is what I was talking about.

 

[jhungary]

My point stays. Hollywood has to take China into consideration one way or the other. The days of "Year of Dragon", where they could demonize Chinese anyway they wanted, is long gone and will never come back. This is what I was talking about.

Oh well, of course you can think about anything you like, but MY POINT STAYED, pleasing any market other than American own market is a mistake, ask Tripp Vinson, he would tell you that. And while you can think "The year of dragon" or whatever is not going to come back, then wall you need to do is to look at some movie.

The reason why US did not make Chinese as villain anymore is because US does not make anyone other than themselves as their villain anymore, 80% of the Hollywood Blockbuster have American villain in it, and guess who always show up as a bad guys in Hollywood Movie? It's the CIA. The other is either Alien or Non-discreet villain.

Let's take a look of this, The Hollywood didn't make Iran bad guys since the movie Navy SEALs In 1990, the latest Hollywood film that portray Iranian is Argo (by Ben Affleck) and in that film, the Iranian (beside the Big Bad Iranian who besiege the embassy, which cover a little) are good guys which help hostage escape and the movie more focus on CIA failure than the Iranian.

Then by your "logic", are Hollywood Afraid of losing Iranian market too?

LOL

 

[Dungeness]

Oh well, of course you can think about anything you like, but MY POINT STAYED, pleasing any market other than American own market is a mistake, ask Tripp Vinson, he would tell you that. And while you can think "The year of dragon" or whatever is not going to come back, then wall you need to do is to look at some movie.

The reason why US did not make Chinese as villain anymore is because US does not make anyone other than themselves as their villain anymore, 80% of the Hollywood Blockbuster have American villain in it, and guess who always show up as a bad guys in Hollywood Movie? It's the CIA. The other is either Alien or Non-discreet villain.

Let's take a look of this, The Hollywood didn't make Iran bad guys since the movie Navy SEALs In 1990, the latest Hollywood film that portray Iranian is Argo (by Ben Affleck) and in that film, the Iranian (beside the Big Bad Iranian who besiege the embassy, which cover a little) are good guys which help hostage escape and the movie more focus on CIA failure than the Iranian.

Then by your "logic", are Hollywood Afraid of losing Iranian market too?

LOL

Did any Hollywood studio have to change the villain from Iran to other country just because they did not want to piss of Iranian ? Was any Oscar caliber actor forced out of job because of his anti-Iran political view? You are good at spinning and twisting, but by resorting to sophism in the above argument, you just put your integrity in public display. People are not stupid here. LOL

 

[Place Of Space]

Did any Hollywood studio have to change the villain from Iran to other country just because they did not want to piss of Iranian ? Was any Oscar caliber actor forced out of job because of his anti-Iran political view? You are good at spinning and twisting, but integrity is the other matter. People are not stupid here. LOL

Welcome back b!tch, you said you would leave for a long while to avoid pollution of the forum.

 

[Dungeness]

Welcome back b!tch, you said you would leave for a long while to avoid pollution of the forum.

 

[Place Of Space]

 

[jhungary]

Did any Hollywood studio have to change the villain from Iran to other country just because they did not want to piss of Iranian ? Was any Oscar caliber actor forced out of job because of his anti-Iran political view? You are good at spinning and twisting, but integrity is the other matter. People are not stupid here. LOL

And how logical of your stand when there are only ever this one time (Which did not end very well for the producer as well, remember) to change the villain from China to North Korea.

To begin with, changing villain is very common (YES, VERY COMMON) but most were done in Pre-Production stage, not like red dawn in post production, Die Hard, changes the villain twice during their run for 20 years, with the first Die Hard was created in the mind of Russian Mafia, as dictated by the books that come with the series, and the last Die Hard was created for the bad guys to be Serbian, which changed to East Germany and Russia respectively.

People change both protagonist and antagonist for whatever reason. And yes, one of these reason is not to piss off specific people, but the fact remain, Red Dawn changes is aiming to Please the Chinese, I will admit that, and that change basically killed the movie.

Again, you can think whatever you want about this change, studio bend over knee to accommodate to the Chinese is not something really surprising, after all Chinese market is a big market, but to do that, you are gambling with your own money, and in Red Dawn case, it very much lost the plot by doing so, and as a result, I don't think anyone would say this *** kissing act succeed in the end, because he (Vinson) is broke and they manage to take MGM with it, which mean if there are ever going to be one of these gamble again, people are going to think about whether it worth it. And in this very particular case, it DOES NOT WORTH IT.

 

[Place Of Space]

Why this message appears often? How to shield it completely, you know?

 

[Dungeness]

Why this message appears often? How to shield it completely, you know?

View attachment 419396

It is OK, I know what you meant.

 

[patero]

My point stays. Hollywood has to take China into consideration one way or the other. The days of "Year of Dragon", where they could demonize Chinese anyway they wanted, is long gone and will never come back. This is what I was talking about.

The success of this film is likely to change the entire dynamic of the Chinese film and cinema industry, and more heavily favor domestic productions. There was a short term shut out of Hollywood movies in Chinese cinemas whilst Wolf Warrior two was screening, and it seems to have contributed to its success. Spider-man homecoming still hasn't opened in China and I 'm not sure if it has been given a release date yet.

There will be more films like WW2 in the future, which will probably see more Hollywood movies being shut out. Consequently, Hollywood is going to become less relevant to the Chinese cinema market. It stands to reason therefore that China will become less relevant to Hollywood.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Richard Gere, ring a bell? Slaver owner supporter got banned by Hollywood from make film.

Yeah, I still remember the movie "Power Ranger", why the hell they put a Chinese actor instead of a Japanese actor. Power Ranger is originated from Japan.