With New Move Involving Planes, India And Afghanistan Bypass Pakistan

[Tom M]

Pakistan has allowed permission that is why they are operating..All departments must have given clearance...
@sparten remember i told you on another thread...
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...corridor-to-kabul-using-pak-air-space.499822/
Now we finally come to know as they have started operations

Come on dude, can't you understand the meaning of the word BY-PASS, which is written wide and clear in the title ?? LOL

This new air corridor is mainly meant to bypass Pakistan and all it's permissions all together.

This is actually great news. Let this route grow. Hopefully we can now permanently seal the border with Afghanistan. Nothing from Afghanistan or india comes into Pakistan, nothing goes out. We've been looking after the Afghans for over 40 years. The indians are welcome to them. Let this transit route prosper. Just keep Pakistan out of it.

Since Afghanistan is a completely landlocked country and Pakistan is a signatory of WTO, you can't do that permanently, do you think you can ??

Moreover by forcing so, Afghanistan will suffer for sure, but over the period they will learn a way or two of self-reliance and the whole exercise of blocking trade will backfire on your face, mark my words.

Secondly if normal trade is not happening, smugglers on both sides of your western boarder will have a very good time resulting in a huge revenue loss for both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Be realistic my friend.

Lastly Permanently sealing boarder 100% by any country is only possible on paper, never a reality. Wherever there are fences or high walls, there are always tunnels and ladders to scale them.

 

[ashok321]

Air freight is worth 5 times more than ocean freight.
So kon sa sher maar diya India ne bhai?

 

[Rizwan Alam]

600000000 PKR ÷ 60000 kg = 10000 per kg + duty + air freight + Loading off loading + Transportation

Happy meal

 

[Zen0]

Afghanistan is more of a war than a country and full of foreign influence from countries hostile to Pakistan. Iran and China on the other hand are functioning nations with long standing and strong ties with Pakistan.

I hope you're kidding about Iran being a close ally of India let alone a stronger ally to India than Pakistan. Just because you're jointly developing a port doesn't mean you're best buddies.

• Afghanistan isn't Syria , they have a functional government.
• Iran is a closer ally to India. Open a text book we have historically supported each other . Our trade with iran is multiple of what Pakistan has.

Thanks to uncle sam. Take the Americans out of the equation and you'll see our influence over Afghanistan.

As for your port in Iran - how many Indian ships have docked there this year? How much cargo is it currently handling? Hope it's going well and you don't lose this to the Russians too

• Uncle sam has historically supported Pakistan over India , especially in context with Afghanistan , even with decades of influence you couldn't convince a land locked nation to your side.
• Chamber has already been inked , the only reason there is slow development is because indian state owned companies incharge are refusing to open tenders for western manufacturers , since trump administration is more hostile to iran. Meaning they will back away mid deal fearing from santions too. The tenders will be passed after modi meet up with trump .

I dont know what India has seen in Afghanistan that emphasizing to reach there at any cost....
Afghanistan is nothing without Pakistan. let both India and Afghanistan try to start such routes but at last they both have to turn Pakistan for assistance and support... Afghanistan's prosperity is naturally linked with Pakistan... so whatever the other options are tried but both india and afghanistan will have to rely on Pakistan....


Pakistan's geo location is such that relations between India and Afghanistan cant go ahead if Pakistan is not involved...After thousand attempts they have to turn at last to Pakistan....

Pakistani economy is a midget in context to India , to us trade with both Afghanistan & Pakistan is meaningless scraps. India adds a Pakistan to its GDP every year , literally

Pakistan:- ~300billion
2016:- 2.1 trillions gdp
2017:-2.4 trillions gdp

 

[Tom M]

600000000 PKR ÷ 60000 kg = 10000 per kg + duty + air freight + Loading off loading + Transportation

Happy meal

But always an insurance when your mischievous neighbor tries to chock you economically.

 

[DJ_Viper]

And India will cut off Pakistan's overflight rights to East Asia, Southeast Asia, Australia etc. Good luck.

That's a dumb post....Pakistan doesn't need India for any of that. I don't think you've flown enough to know that. Pakistan, through Gawader / Baluchistan gets to the Arabian Ocean or through Iran to the ME. For China, they are directly connected. For Australia, again Chinese route and refuel in China with a stop in China as the travel is growing between the two countries. Getting to Sri Lanka and Bangla Desh, through the Arabian ocean. After 12 miles or so from the shore, its an international right to navigate. You can't stop anyone unless you are at war with them.

 

[punit]

What makes you think Iran or China would allow Indian aircraft transit to Afghanistan if Pakistan advocates them not to?

TRY ADVOCATING THEM !

 

[Zen0]

Neither Pakistan nor India can block passage of Passenger planes according to an international treaty. On the other hand it is upto Pakistan and India to block cargo and military aircrafts as that power resides with the respective country.

Secondly hardly any Pakistani air transport passes through india for very good reasons so knock yourself out.

By very definition cargo planes are commercial. Fedx have their own cargo planes to move their goods.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

America waged a decades long war in Vietnam just like now in Afghanistan. It had a puppet govt in Vietnam which on the surface seemed to support America just like in Afghanistan. In the end America had to give up in Vietnam. I am hoping just like in Afghanistan.

Americans, Indians, Europeans they are all quite the same. Slowly conquering muslim countries on their hit list. Make no mistake about it they have same objectives. By sometimes being the victim or sometimes being the perpetrator.

 

[assassin123]

You think Pakistan can't find alternative routes to those areas through China? Good luck trying to find alternate routes to Afghanistan.

You are looking at 3-4+ hours more of flight time and an exponentially increased fuel burn. While finding an alternative route to af is less costly

 

[Aasimkhan]

This is actually great news. Let this route grow. Hopefully we can now permanently seal the border with Afghanistan. Nothing from Afghanistan or india comes into Pakistan, nothing goes out. We've been looking after the Afghans for over 40 years. The indians are welcome to them. Let this transit route prosper. Just keep Pakistan out of it.

India has no love lost for Afghanistan, they support them only to quarantine Pakistan. How can the Indians forget that there is a whole mountain range in Afghanistan called HINDU KUSH.

 

[maximuswarrior]

All rhetoric aside. This "move" I can assure you is going to cost a whole lot of money folks. Seems like another publicity stunt which won't last long. America cannot sustain an air corridor and has to rely on cheaper land routes. LOL at bypassing Pakistan. Good luck with that.

 

[Musafir117]

By pass " no further comments

 

[Syed_Adeel]

And India will cut off Pakistan's overflight rights to East Asia, Southeast Asia, Australia etc. Good luck.

Wakeup please. India is not in such position,

 

[Baby Leone]

Now Terrorists in Afghanistan have air access to get weapons and bombs for terrorist attacks in Pakistan and Mid East.

anyways Afganistan go and sleep with indians and live Pakistan for god sake and close borders and get fruits from this air rout