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Wing Commander Noman Ali Khan & Squadron Leader Hassan Siddqui, MIG-21Bison & SU-30 MKI slayers

PAF claim shooting down SU 30, PAF will not clain it with out solid evidences, otherwise PAF wont play Politics like Other Guys in Khaki do. We Trust PAF.
Paf have radar and awacs recordings just wait and see
 
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That's SU30 kill, I was thinking, throughout the history of F16 program, the Americans, the Israelis and even us during first afghan war, this has to he its biggest prey up till now.
Has even an F-15 or any other western plane shot down an Su-30?
 
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The fact of the matter is, we do not have any proof. If there is proof, PAF would have released it. All these fanboys statements are as good as melodrama.

What's further more, we went on to boldly claim we had a pilot in our custody. Not simply "initial reports indicate we have an injured pilot in CMH", no no no.... it was "we have an IAF pilot period". Then we had to shamelessly eat our words.

While the idiots on the other side, were happily shooting down their own chopper. But one wrong which they haven't committed is backtrack their statements. When your statements gets backtracked, you lose credibility. Their military/govt official spokespersons were consistent throughout the saga. But even they are sneaky bastards, that they didn't mention if their MiG-21 was shot down or was a technical fault. So how can we take their F-16 claim as true?

Looking at it from a unbiased third point view, The outcome of the engagement is:
1 - MiG-21 down confirmed - probability of PAF killing it is very high. Technical fault very low.
1 - F-16 claimed - probability of kill unknown.
1 - Su-30MKI claimed - probability of kill by PAF very low.

Paf got undeniable proofs of su30 kill but can't show in public .
What u want them to show proofs , " Hassan na ghar ma ghus ka mara or kitnay andar ja kar mara ...."
Use ur brain to think .
Why didnt PAF show other ground attack videos which india even accepted paf had done ??
Why mig21 crossed loc , where was his wing man ?
Why su30 didnt engage paf when even they were airborn and were lock n loaded ?
Even watching mig21 going down , su30s didnt engage Paf , in era of bvr ??
What happend to those airbirn iaf mirage 2000s ?

Simply IAF shocked and alot of myths were destroyed that day .
 
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Can the IAF or Indian Arm Chair Generals check if this guy is still flying the SU-30 MKI- from Indian Air Force's 221 Squadron 'Valiants' at Halwara, Punjab. Not to forget that Chief on the left was made to go home in not so happy ending post 27th Feb PAF operation Swift Retort.

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Can the IAF or Indian Arm Chair Generals check if this guy is still flying the SU-30 MKI- from Indian Air Force's 221 Squadron 'Valiants' at Halwara, Punjab. Not to forget that Chief on the left was made to go home in not so happy ending post 27th Feb PAF operation Swift Retort.

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This picture may turn out to be the most interesting historical peace. SU-30 MKI, Chief going home with sorrow & grief & most probably the SU rider on the right side being shot down on 27th Feb. anything can happen.
 
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It's not about the probabilities. It's all about credibility. Indian Airfoce lost it's credibility once they claimed that over 250 militants were killed with just their 5 bombs dropped at Balakot. As per our Deputy Chief of Air Staff said that enemy violated Pakistani territory with 12 Mirages...dropped only 4 bombs and all of them were off target which reflects a thoroughly unprofessional Airforce...In response PAF retaliated in a broad daylight after DG ISPR asked them to wait for our surprise. Ask Alan Warnes who enjoy enough credibility and reputation whether Indian Su 30 was shot down or not on that day ?

Furthermore, in modern era where every one has smartphone cameras along with 4G internet access, videos of the presumably F-16 wreckage would have spread like a wild fire. Also here to mention that Kashmiris inside Pakistani territory have full access to internet and other facilities unlike Indian Occupied territory where people are denied from their fundamental basic rights.
There is a bit of jingoism in this. You need to understand the Indians also did not want an escalation. They may have well thought that if the bombs did not hit any target of note we can make our noises on the press and the Pak forces will not retaliate as no loss of life had occured. To me it sounds logical to play to your strength (ie your press) and gain a moral victory without any loss. The end is achieved Modi is their saviour.
Now our trees and the shaheed crow being so important to us we retaliated ruffled their feathers and in the melee caught two of their planes with their rear ends exposed and pointedly rammed up a couple of Aim120s in them.
Modi laments the fact that "if Rafale had been there the result would have been different". The Indian Babu quickly asks for more money to buy more arms the whole world drools over the Indian heirarchy and the Halwa puri starts. So everyone is happy while for the poor masses there is no toilets or basic amenities on both sides. But then who gives a rat's *** about the masses.
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Have learned from reliable sources that these very individual Pilots have also recorded interviews which were supposed to be aired before they came on the stage. The Sukhoi Slayer even says that they had no idea from where I had hit them. Another joked towards the end that more tea is awaited for them. I guess due to lack of time they cut out those interview parts, but i am sure they have those first-ever interviews stored somewhere to be aired at some other event.
 
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I guess due to lack of time they cut out those interview parts, but i am sure they have those first-ever interviews stored somewhere to be aired at some other event.

That makes sense as Airtime is always specific & assigned in limited capacity for each & every show/program. Or may be, we are talking about two different airtime fun as the one is already done so the next may be aired sometimes later. Personnel were available at that time hence, recorded at once.
 
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That makes sense as Airtime is always specific & assigned in limited capacity for each & every show/program. Or may be, we are talking about two different airtime fun as the one is already done so the next may be aired sometimes later. Personnel were available at that time hence, recorded at once.
Yes even when Haseeb Paracha was showing the footage of bomb strikes on Indian targets, he pointed out that the video has been slowed for audience to clearly see the targets, he went on to say, later it will be shown in normal speed but that was also deleted.
 
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