Wing Commander Noman Ali Khan & Squadron Leader Hassan Siddqui, MIG-21Bison & SU-30 MKI slayers

[TheTallGuy]

Guys, Seriously if we we had lost F-16s it would have been out by now. the money speaks you know much money is thrown around to get this scoop? even pilot names if possible...there is enough corruption to go around in Pakistan Media to break the news..do you seriously think no body in India would have offered best possible money just get something concrete...

look when they hide they hide but F-16 crash or shoot down can not remain hidden its been more the 40 days something would have leaked. RAW is active as well sniffing around. IAF knows no F-16 is shotdown just delay the inevitable as they know we have 2nd pilot or WSO (I think poor chap was WSO) because iAF is harping about single Su-30MKI by ranjikanth moves escaped 4-5 AMRAAMS and they will award him later...

end result there is no F-16 shot down..and yes sure as morning sun rises daily - Su-30MKI was bagged. If indian comeout and say we did not loose any Su-30MKI only then we will respond..

But you see there is no official clarification from IAF about that...did you noticed?

 

[NA71]

heheheh i think you meant to say cooking :p anyways what about the SU-34's?

opsssssssss sorry.... yes it was "cooking"....thanks for pointing it out.

 

[usman012]

No f-16 was lost .That's clear now but i know India will reward their Pilot for dodging 5 AIM -120 missiles.

 

[Shane]

Really? Then how the heck does US see an ally in India?


What? You seriously sound like an Indian who was right there amidst the combat. You sound ridiculous.

You know what actually sounds more believable than your imaginative story? The words of an Indian TV anchor:

"The big story breaking this morning, an F-16 of the Pakistani air force shot down a Su-30MKI.. the latest of India's air force." - Rahul Kanwal 02/27/19

Now that's believable.

And to top it off we have a car crash outside SU30 Avantipur base at 3am in the night where pilots die:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1113747564246044674

i have seen a video and matched it with the iaf provided photos.it clearly matched.have you seen the video where one jet was shot down but in the background you can see another jet at high altitude turning towards left side? That left side jet was hit later near mangla reservoir.

Kindly provide the said pictures and video. How did you make the conclusion that the left side jet was hit later near mangla?

@Arsalan 345 kindly stick to providing the requested pics and vid with your comments that prove it all matches so we can have a meaningful exchange.

@Windjammer the real point that gives this one away i.e. trying to appear objective while completely in the wilderness and driven there by Indian propaganda, lol.

How can the F16 be hit later near Mangla when Indians claim that it was AbhiNandan who shot down the F16 and after that his own jet was downed. Or the poster was counting seconds in between and is way ahead of IAF.

The above also means that if IAF is claiming Abhi shot F16 then they have no other proof or even any airy-fairy claim that another IAF asset even fired any missile at our F16s.

Which in turn also means that since we have all the four missiles and even the seeker heads intact of the downed Mig, means Abhi never got off even a single shot.

So if no body fired at our F16s then how can one be shot later near Mangla according to our highly intelligible @Arsalan 345 who has seen something that matches airy-fairy Indian claims, lol.

 

[TOPGUN]

No PAF F-16 was shot down guys leave it to rest and stop encouraging the indian dumb trolls to bash every thread let them burn and dreaming in Bollywood.

 

[Khanivore]

this is my opinion based on evidences.i don't want to proof to anyone that i am pakistani.i just don't care.if you don't like m comment,move on.everyone has the right to speak.

You don't have the right to speak bullcrap the Indians are towing in their imaginary "evidence" videos.

 

[Arsalan 345]

You don't have the right to speak bullcrap the Indians are towing in their imaginary "evidence" videos.

okay.

 

[Khanivore]

okay.

And stop linking Indian narrative videos to support your opinion, it's not gonna work on PDF.

 

[Blueskiez 2001]

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end result there is no F-16 shot down..and yes sure as morning sun rises daily - Su-30MKI was bagged. If indian comeout and say we did not loose any Su-30MKI only then we will respond..

But you see there is no official clarification from IAF about that...did you noticed?

I was thinking about your last comment, and my first thought was no way. But then i realized all the debate has been about whether PAF F-16 was shot down or not. And then I realized that IAF to my knowledge haven´t claimed that they ONLY lost one MIG-21. IAF has admitted -because of the irrefutable evidence, that they lost one MIG-21, but not that was the only one. And interestingly (to my knowledge) no one - and certainly not the Indian Media, has asked IAF whether they lost an SU-30.

Can anyone shed light on this one or is my memmory just playin with me...

 

[Defense Reader]

i don't see any su-30 video.i don't believe.su-30s turned cold when amraams were fired towards them.f-16s on central position fired amraams towards approaching su-30s from south.f-16s were at 30 to 40000 feet.other group of f-16s on south were at 10 to 15000 feet which was ambush for su-30s.migs from north wasn't engaged by jf-17s.jf-17s was busy with indian mirages.that's why migs went through straight to our central primary package f-16s.one mig violated airspace and shot down.we also seen the video of another jet going down.it was at low altitude as compare to indian mig.we don't know who was flying that plane and which airforce operated that plane.it's a mystery.

Bhai dusra jahaz india main gira woh aliens ka tha su 30 ni tha or woh us ko mareekh pr le gye hain

 

[Shane]

i don't believe that they lost su-30.su-30 is a very big fighter jet.you can't hide it.

And then you post:

may be su-30.who knows!

A journey from "i don't believe" to "who knows" - Doesn't it proves nothing but "think before you post" something and start claiming I have proof? When all you have is a gullible arrow in the dark brainwave inspired from across the border that defies facts on the ground.

That left side jet was hit later near mangla reservoir.abhi was seen near a stream so the spot is clearly sabz kot.other jet near tandar fall down before abhi jet.

So the other jet which you earlier pointed out too as the jet which was hit later near Mangla is now the mystery jet(you also claimed it earlier as F16) Now you are saying that other jet near Tandar Fall down before Abhi jet?

And then add to the mix "may be SU30".

Kuku

f-16s fired amraams on su-30 which went cold to avoid missile hit.they didn't even cross the loc.we must provide proof to the world now

Dear, SU30 going cold to avoid missile hit is the personification of silliness and proof that those who think that are swimming in what has been dribbling down IAF spokesman's ill fitting attire as the missile(s) fired at SU30 was AMRAAM which is not an IR heat seeking missile but an active radar guided missile, understand the difference.

If going cold means crashing, lol, only then people would be willing to support such IAF fairy tails.

 

[NA71]

IAF says Rafale jets would have further hurt Pakistan in dogfight vs F-16s
https://zeenews.india.com/india/iaf-says-rafale-jets-would-have-further-hurt-pakistan-in-dogfight-vs-f-16s-2195855.html

 

[pkd]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1117861902904954881

 

[SIPRA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1117861902904954881

Kindly open a new thread or merge it with IAF Chiefs press briefing thread.

 

[valkyr_96]

IAF has admitted -because of the irrefutable evidence, that they lost one MIG-21, but not that was the only one. And interestingly (to my knowledge) no one - and certainly not the Indian Media, has asked IAF whether they lost an SU-30.

Can anyone shed light on this one or is my memmory just playin with me...

you are absolutely right on this one. They changed their statement only after video of the pilot emerged not even when DGISPR had said they have captured the pilot. Even then they reported him as missing.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1100656090805686272