Why pray in Arabic and not in a language we understand?

[khanz4996]

LOL! So mere fiction to back up your claim? Just as I thought.

check out video of Sheikh Imran Hossain about dajjal on Youtube backed by hadiths and Quran

 

[VCheng]

check out video of Sheikh Imran Hossain about dajjal on Youtube backed by hadiths and Quran

More fictional interpretations?

 

[laiqs@mi]

Arabic is a beautiful language that Allah tallah has given to all Muslims.

I’m not talking about the people I’m talking about the language.

Muhammad (s.a.a.w) once said “Go in quest of knowledge even unto China.”

And we Muslims know that on the day of judgement we will be asked questions in Arabic.

That’s why we learn Arabic but reading Or listening in our own languages does not do any harm.

I would agree to an extent with your translation bits however it’s easier for some languages to be translated from Arabic and have the same meaning as in the original text such as Urdu, Persian etc

Peace

no brother I think i failed to convey.
how it is possible for a human to translate ALLAH pak's word. because Quran is ALLAH pak's word.
it is very difficult to translate human poetry.
For example
if you ever translate any song from urdu to English .. how much this song will attract audience??? because the poetry and the style is totaly made for urdu. here Qura pak whe recite and Tillawah in Arabic gives a very change feelig compare to urdu or any other laguage. here i only am indicating Tillawah of Quraa pak.
and as for the orders in Quraan it is very necessarily be easy in language you understad easlily.

 

[mitth]

First of all only i believe that ALLAH..
and before the judgment day ALLAH teach the Arabic who do not know Arabic...
In other Arabic language course...
Muhammad (S.A.A.W) said go in quest even into china.

 

[laiqs@mi]

Arabic is a beautiful language that Allah tallah has given to all Muslims.

I’m not talking about the people I’m talking about the language.

Muhammad (s.a.a.w) once said “Go in quest of knowledge even unto China.”

And we Muslims know that on the day of judgement we will be asked questions in Arabic.

That’s why we learn Arabic but reading Or listening in our own languages does not do any harm.

I would agree to an extent with your translation bits however it’s easier for some languages to be translated from Arabic and have the same meaning as in the original text such as Urdu, Persian etc

Peace

no brother you did not understood what i meant to say.
For example
if you ever translate any song from urdu to English .. how much this song will attract audience??? because the poetry and the style is totaly made for urdu. here Qura pak whe recite and Tillawah in Arabic gives a very change feelig compare to urdu or any other laguage. here i only am indicating Tillawah of Quraa pak.
and as for the orders in Quraan it is very necessarily be easy in language you understad easlily.

 

[araz]

I do have a serious question:

The Quranic revelations are divine, but the order in which we have it in the book form is human, being compiled almost 70 years later. So the physical form of the Quran as we know it today has already been determined by humans, hence an absolute insistence for the completely divine nature of the book cannot be regarded as totally robust, or can it?

Vcheng.
Not only the Quran is devine but its order and arrangement is also devine, and completed in the life of the Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) under the tuelage of Hazrat Jibrael AS. The confusion in your mind stems from the fact that the original transcript, written partly on paper and partly on parchment and skin, did not have any hyphenations(Ai raab). The arabic language depends on these hyphens instead of vowels. As Islam spread across the Arabian peninsula, it started being read in different dialects. Now the problem arose as changing the hyphens changed the tense and the meaning of the word. Therefore it was decided to have the Quran written in text with all the hyphens and that all other copies be burned to avoid any other version of it coming out.
What is human intervention in the arrangement is the division into "paraas" and probable division into 7 manazil(may Allah forgive me if I have said this wrong) to facilitate reading it in sections. While the later was done with great care, the formation into 30 Paraas is perhaps a crude attempt and according to Dr Israr Ahmed(May Allah give him reward) does not take care of the continuity of text.
I hope this explains the situation.
Araz

 

[VCheng]

Vcheng.
Not only the Quran is devine but its order and arrangement is also devine, and completed in the life of the Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) under the tuelage of Hazrat Jibrael AS. The confusion in your mind stems from the fact that the original transcript, written partly on paper and partly on parchment and skin, did not have any hyphenations(Ai raab). The arabic language depends on these hyphens instead of vowels. As Islam spread across the Arabian peninsula, it started being read in different dialects. Now the problem arose as changing the hyphens changed the tense and the meaning of the word. Therefore it was decided to have the Quran written in text with all the hyphens and that all other copies be burned to avoid any other version of it coming out.
What is human intervention in the arrangement is the division into "paraas" and probable division into 7 manazil(may Allah forgive me if I have said this wrong) to facilitate reading it in sections. While the later was done with great care, the formation into 30 Paraas is perhaps a crude attempt and according to Dr Israr Ahmed(May Allah give him reward) does not take care of the continuity of text.
I hope this explains the situation.
Araz

Thank you for that explanation, which I accept, but my point is that an absolute insistence for the completely divine nature of the book cannot be regarded as totally robust, just as you indicate as well.

 

[VCheng]

duplicated post deleted.

 

[Chogy]

And we Muslims know that on the day of judgement we will be asked questions in Arabic.

So us non-Arabic speakers are destined for hell? What about the people who lived before Arabic evolved? What about ancient Chinese people, South Pacific Islanders, Native Americans?

 

[VCheng]

So us non-Arabic speakers are destined for hell?

Yes, apparently so!

What about the people who lived before Arabic evolved?

Hell?

What about ancient Chinese people, South Pacific Islanders, Native Americans?

All straight to hell, hell and hell!



See how easy it is!

 

[araz]

Thank you for that explanation, which I accept, but my point is that an absolute insistence for the completely divine nature of the book cannot be regarded as totally robust, just as you indicate as well.

If the book is devine , its revelation and arrangemnt is devine, then it is devine, whether it presents to you in 1 volume or 30. I dont see what you are trying to get at. If you have a problem with any of it, the Quran itself issues a challange to the whole humanity and all resources available to it, to bring out a book of comparable stature.
Araz

 

[VCheng]

If the book is devine , its revelation and arrangemnt is devine, then it is devine, whether it presents to you in 1 volume or 30. I dont see what you are trying to get at. If you have a problem with any of it, the Quran itself issues a challange to the whole humanity and all resources available to it, to bring out a book of comparable stature.
Araz

I fully accept that the Quran is believed by its followers to be divine. I have no problem with that belief system, which is to be respected.

 

[araz]

So us non-Arabic speakers are destined for hell? What about the people who lived before Arabic evolved? What about ancient Chinese people, South Pacific Islanders, Native Americans?

Chogy!
Firstly please understand that the edict is from Allah. He is the King and the master of the day of judgement.None can interced in his court except by his command.So in short he has absolute power and it is his discretion to forgive any one whom he choses to. However, in the Quran he has set down some rules which answer some of the questions you have raised. As to non Arabic being destined to hell__ No! My native language is urdu, I can read the Quran ,but I need help of a translation to understand it. The reason as I explained earlier is to preserve the integrity of Allah's word, that the original text has been preserved in Arabic language. Allah has decreed that you get brownie points (to put it lightly) even when you read the text without understanding it ,although for obvious reason understanding is better. The area I live in has a lot of New muslims who cant read the arabic text, so they read the Quran in English text, but read the same verses( transliteration if I am not mistaken) as us along with a translation if they choose to do so.
What about people who lived before Arabic evolved? ___ The importance is in Allahs word. So arabic which was a highly enriched language for many thousand of yrs, and had a rich content of peotry and literature, which preceded the Arrival of the Quran, did not count for much. Hoewever, if as an angle you are implying to what happens to all the people who lived before the times of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), then as long as they followed the way (Sharia) of the prophets Moses and Jesus(PBUH)(Prophet Jesus came to rectify some of the ills of the mosaic laws which had been corrupted) correctly, Allah will reward them just like Muslims. As to what happens after the arrival of Mohammad (PBUH), just like old laws stand cancelled after placement of new laws, so is the case of Allah,s commands. So in islam apart from a few rules which Allah in his devine wisdom has chosen to continue from Judaism, all rules and regulations stand cancelled and the new measure of judging people in front of Allah is Islam( not that the muslms of today are doing too good a job of following it).
As to what happens to people where the message of Allah never got through, the answer is that they will be forgiven. However, since there are no more prophets to come after Mohammad(PBUH), it becomes our responsibility to propogate Allahs word on , and we will be questioned and indeed punished if we have not done so.
This is the religious aspect of Islam as explained to me, and as I have understood it. You can choose to listen or ignore it. However, you asked the question and I have explained it to you.
Kind regards
Araz

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Do the chirstians ever complain when they pray in Latin??, nope, I dont see any. So , why us muslims. It has been going on 1400 years, nobody has given rise to it. But why now we are suddenly facing this??

Just a small correction.

All Christians do not pray in Latin.

The Vernacular: Introduction, Extension, Conditions

The introduction of local languages into the sacred liturgy of the Latin Rite is a development that did not occur all of a sudden. After the partial experience gained over the preceding years in certain countries, already on 5 and 6 December 1962, after long and sometimes impassioned debates, the Second Vatican Fathers adopted the principle that the use of the mother tongue, whether in the Mass or other parts of the liturgy, frequently may be of advantage to the people. In the following year the Council voted to apply this principle to the Mass, the ritual and the Liturgy of the Hours (cf. SC, nn. 36, 54, 63a, 76, 78, 101).

May also see

http://solochristo.com/theology/Church/cc/cciv.htm

 

[VCheng]

Chogy!
Firstly please understand that the edict is from Allah. .................

Please may I ask for a source where Allah declares that the questions on the Day of Judgement will be asked in Arabic?