Why does Pakistan have zero grandmaster's in chess ?

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Sure thing claim on, But you should really explain this to your fellow Pakistanis not me. Atleast you are agreeing to the Ancient Indian origin argument.

i am not agreeing to anything. India is a fake country. this entire region has been for almost all of its history a bunch of small countries. but if i borrow your logic, then i prove Pakistan has just as much right to call itself the home of chess as India does. but Pakistan doesnt make a big deal of it, because we just dont care. we arent obsessed little boys. since you arent willing to accept this and give Pakistan the credit, potentially, then it establishes that you are a troll and that indians on this website are a waste of time. you people really have nothing better to do other than talk shit. no wonder all the call centres in the world are in india. the world decided, including Pakistan, at least lets make their (India's) national sport of talking shit do a little good for the world. when Indians are done with helping gora sahab in America find the on/off button from your call centre, you come to websites like this to keep talking the same bakwas you were doing during the day.

 

[Varunastra]

i am not agreeing to anything. India is a fake country. this entire region has been for almost all of its history a bunch of small countries. but if i borrow your logic, then i prove Pakistan has just as much right to call itself the home of chess as India does. but Pakistan doesnt make a big deal of it, because we just dont care. we arent obsessed little boys. since you arent willing to accept this and give Pakistan the credit, potentially, then it establishes that you are a troll and that indians on this website are a waste of time. you people really have nothing better to do other than talk shit. no wonder all the call centres in the world are in india. the world decided, including Pakistan, at least lets make their (India's) national sport of talking shit do a little good for the world. when Indians are done with helping gora sahab in America find the on/off button from your call centre, you come to websites like this to keep talking the same bakwas you were doing during the day.

I just said Pakistanis don't claim to be part of Ancient North Indians unlike what you said and you reply India is a fake country?
Either argue with you fellow Pakistanis on this take their testimony or not at all, I have no argument with you

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

What a terrible attempt at trollig.

Folks, here I'll translate for you.
The reason is you Pakistanis have a low IQ, your islamic culture makes you backwards and you guys just have madrasa education.

Except indians have a lower IQ than Pakistanis and 1.4 billion indians have NEVER EVER invented ANY advanced sciences or technologies EVER:

IQ by Country - World Ranking of Countries by their Average IQ

What to know what country has the highest average IQ? â What is the average IQ of your country? â Full list of countries by their average IQ - more than 180 countries! â â Find answers about IQ by country here! â¦

new-iq-test.com

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

I just said Pakistanis don't claim to be part of Ancient North Indians unlike what you said and you reply India is a fake country?
Either argue with you fellow Pakistanis on this take their testimony or not at all, I have no argument with you

read my comment again. as pakistans', we dont care about ancient india. india is fake. ancient india is fake, and it has always been a thousand small countries fighting each other over and over. ancient india as you imagine it never existed. the country you call india today is a fake country. its filled with people who share next to nothing in common. from north to south, from east to west. but you believe they do, you believe india is a real country and that this ancient india thing has merit. in that case, Pakistan would also be included as part of ancient India (as you already said, Punjab and Sindh are part of ancient India). so since you believe Pakistan is part of ancient India, then Pakistan and India have an equal chance of being the home of chess.

not that any of this matters. but for a troll like you i suppose this is all very important and worthy of making a thread.

 

[Dark1]

Lets leave egoes behind and again discuss why Pakistan has not produced a single GM .
The example of iran proves that religion is not a roadblock, and its the culture that matters most , as i have clearly stated with examples of iran , Turkey and Bangladesh.
But I stand behind my analysis that excessively religious countries are poor in chess. While countries with a more liberal outlook are doing well in chess. Iran maybe because its a shia country, which i believe are more liberal, though religious.
Chess is a beautiful game. See the queen's gambit on Netflix even if not interested in chess.
In India we have had a revolution in chess because anand vishwanathan was a 4 times times world chess champion.
Now 12 year olds in India are becoming GMs.

 

[Varunastra]

read my comment again. as pakistans', we dont care about ancient india. india is fake. ancient india is fake, and it has always been a thousand small countries fighting each other over and over. ancient india as you imagine it never existed. the country you call india today is a fake country. its filled with people who share next to nothing in common. from north to south, from east to west. but you believe they do, you believe india is a real country and that this ancient india thing has merit. in that case, Pakistan would also be included as part of ancient India (as you already said, Punjab and Sindh are part of ancient India). so since you believe Pakistan is part of ancient India, then Pakistan and India have an equal chance of being the home of chess.

not that any of this matters. but for a troll like you i suppose this is all very important and worthy of making a thread.

I have no arguement with you seriously, it's like you are fighting with yourself at this point

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

I have no arguement with you seriously, it's like you are fighting with yourself at this point

you have no argument. full stop. you are just here to troll. your existence has no purpose.

 

[Dark1]

I have no arguement with you seriously, it's like you are fighting with yourself at this point

Notice except for a handful, they try to divert the topic.
No logical or straightforward answers. All defensive replies.
The ability to engage in a cogent manner is missing.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lets leave egoes behind and again discuss why Pakistan has not produced a single GM .
The example of iran proves that religion is not a roadblock, and its the culture that matters most , as i have clearly stated with examples of iran , Turkey and Bangladesh.
But I stand behind my analysis that excessively religious countries are poor in chess. While countries with a more liberal outlook are doing well in chess. Iran maybe because its a shia country, which i believe are more liberal, though religious.
Chess is a beautiful game. See the queen's gambit on Netflix even if not interested in chess.
In India we have had a revolution in chess because anand vishwanathan was a 4 times times world chess champion.
Now 12 year olds in India are becoming GMs.

Explain why 1.4 billion indians have NEVER EVER invented ANY advanced sciences or technologies EVER? Also, why do indians have a lower IQ compared to Pakistanis.......... :

IQ by Country - World Ranking of Countries by their Average IQ

What to know what country has the highest average IQ? â What is the average IQ of your country? â Full list of countries by their average IQ - more than 180 countries! â â Find answers about IQ by country here! â¦

new-iq-test.com

PS Are you getting your conjectures from the same place as your fairy tale about yourself being a 6'4 inch athletic looking Arab who has South American males dancing and rapping for you at train stations?............:

Racist gets knocked out on the London Underground

They saying he’s a son of a wealthy firm owner. I heard that too. But at the moment he is firmly hospitalised.

defence.pk

 

[masterchief_mirza]

What a terrible attempt at trollig.

Folks, here I'll translate for you.
The reason is you Pakistanis have a low IQ, your islamic culture makes you backwards and you guys just have madrasa education.

It's always nice stringing the trolls along for a while though.. until the mods pop along and shatter their illusions.

Please no IVC here, it'll open a pandoras box of arguments

Sir, because Delhi has kept the lid firmly on this Pandora's box, generations of Pakistanis have forgotten the fact that theirs is a rich heritage. Pakistan can rightly lay claim to "ancient Pakistani" heritage. India was not a contiguous nation state in the era you refer to, such that the modern republic may simply lay claim to all territories of the "Indian subcontinent", as if it were some successor state to everything from Peshawar to Chittagong.

But you're right - let's not derail the thread today.

 

[Dark1]

2 excellent articles on chess wrt Pakistan -

What Pakistan Can Learn from India

WASHINGTON — When a 12-year-old Indian prodigy defeated an 18-year-old Italian champion in chess this past June, he didn’t just win the…

stanleyweiss.medium.com

CHESS: CHECKMATED IN PAKISTAN

Despite a great deal of interest in the game of chess in the country and despite playing competitive chess since the

www.dawn.com

 

[KaiserX]

Because Pakistani people are practical people and choose to focus on the real world and are more practical than playing games all day.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

2 excellent articles on chess wrt Pakistan -

What Pakistan Can Learn from India

WASHINGTON — When a 12-year-old Indian prodigy defeated an 18-year-old Italian champion in chess this past June, he didn’t just win the…

stanleyweiss.medium.com

CHESS: CHECKMATED IN PAKISTAN

Despite a great deal of interest in the game of chess in the country and despite playing competitive chess since the

www.dawn.com

indians should learn from those who have a higher racial IQ than them........ :

IQ by Country - World Ranking of Countries by their Average IQ

What to know what country has the highest average IQ? â What is the average IQ of your country? â Full list of countries by their average IQ - more than 180 countries! â â Find answers about IQ by country here! â¦

new-iq-test.com

PS Should non-indians learn from south indian dravidians who claim to be 6'4 inch athletic, Arab looking dudes who have South American males rapping and dancing for them at train stations............... :

Racist gets knocked out on the London Underground

They saying he’s a son of a wealthy firm owner. I heard that too. But at the moment he is firmly hospitalised.

defence.pk

 

[MuhammedAli]

never knew chess defines a nation...

Chess defines a player and it tells a certain characteristics of player. And state of Pakistan and minds of Pakistanis tells they are not capable. We are not mind ... We are skill ... Chess is mind. Mind is in West n Far East. Heart in East.

 

[xyxmt]

why doesn't India where everyone wants to play Cricket has not produced a fast bowler yet