Re: Why does India compare itself with China?
So, why do Chinese compare themselves with US instead of Thailand & Malaysia if it's all about comparing country for living standards?
India is far more poor country than countries like Singapore and ROK but still India is enough to push their "high standards of living" into stone age but they can't do the same.
The actual power is measured in terms of billions & trillions of dollars of economy and Forex reserves, in terms of naval strength, overseas military bases, kilotons and megatons of TNT, soldiers, tanks planes and milsats & strategic weapons. Yeah, India has remained one of biggest gainers in terms of HDI & Per capita income and higher or even a middle income economy with population over a billion is a deadly combination!
India is reaching out for it soon.
Pakistan is originally an Indian State, an integral part of India tore apart by British but it won't become unidentical anytime soon. The size creates the difference.
India and Pakistan may be political adversaries but they are not in the same league, not at all.
Now, regarding this thread, its just a copy of 5-6 years old bs.
https://defence.pk/threads/why-does-india-want-to-compare-itself-to-china.146807/
Everytime, political & strategic scenarios take turn, Indian government becomes more aggressive, Chinese members come here and troll Indians and finally Pakistani members feeling insecurity of losing their "arch rival" open a thread.
Funny thing is that gap between India and Pakistan has been enlarging every year.
Notice: If anybody is going to be doomed by flags of @faithfulguy, please don't, I have carried out a number of experiments to confirm who is he. Enjoy him now.
He isn't a Taiwanese at all.
Why do Indians want to compare their nation to China, & equate Pakistan to Afghanistan, when by all socioeconomic, political, health, development measures etc, India & Pakistan are very similar; & India is nothing like Pakistan. Saying Pakistan is like Afghanistan is like saying India is like Afghanistan.
So just a few examples:
1) GDP per capita:
Pakistan------India-------China
$5100-------$6700-------$15400
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html
2) Current account balance:
Pakistan------------India----------------China
$-2.627 billion----$-31.97 billion----$+270.9 billion
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html
3) Inflation:
Pakistan---------India----------China
3.70%------------5.60%----------2.30%
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2092rank.html
4) Unemployment:
Pakistan---------India----------China
6.70%-----------8.40%----------4.20%
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2129rank.html
5) Structure of economy (% of GDP by sector):
-----------Pakistan-----India-------China
agriculture: 25.2%---16.5%------8.6%
--industry: 19.2%------29.8%----40.7
%
--services:
55.6%----
45.4%----
50.7%
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2012.html
6) Life expectancy at birth (years):
Pakistan-------India--------China
67.7----------68.5----------75.5
https://www.cia.gov/library/PUBLICATIONS/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html
7) Education Index (expected & mean years of schooling):
Pakistan-------India---------China
0.37---------0.47----------0.61
http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/education-index
8) Income Inequality Index (higher number, more inequality):
Pakistan--------India----------China
0.296----------0.336---------0.469
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html
9) Multidimensional Poverty Index (Tables 3.1 to 4.3): higher number, more poverty:
Pakistan--------India----------China
0.23----------0.283---------0.023
http://www.ophi.org.uk/multidimensional-poverty-index/global-mpi-2016/
10) Gender Inequality Index (higher number, more inequality):
Pakistan-------India---------China
0.536---------0.563--------0.191
http://chartsbin.com/view/4319
When previous thread was posted back in 2011.
https://defence.pk/threads/why-does-india-want-to-compare-itself-to-china.146807/
GDP per capita:
India: $4445 Pakistan: $4113
Now, 2017:
India: $6658 Pak: $5128
Not only per capita income, India was behind Pak in 1991 in HDI, today it's significantly ahead, we had just 52% (just half) of Pakistani GDP per capita, today we lead by 23%, we had 50% less percentage of population using intenet than Pak, today we are double, mobile, penetration, hunger Index, quality of life index, social progress index, literacy rate, education index, fertility rate & overall population growth rate, life expectancy, India has beaten Pakistan up in almost all indicators in last 25 years. Since, India's per capita income growth rate has remained from 1.5 times to 2.5 times of Pak on every single year since 1991 (I'm taking population growth rate only, including fertility rate, enlarges the gap), "showing India it's place which is behind Pakistan" is going to remain a wet dream of Max.
List of countries by past and projected GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In fact,
comparison between India and Pakistan isn't credible because records of 70 millions (about 36% of population) Pakistanis aren't available given last four decades of failure of conducting any successful census.
All stats we even today have available about Pakistan is for documented population only, as destitutes are ignored mostly, socio economic conditions of Pakistan are even worse on ground.
In WIPO 2016, Indians filed 45,658 patent applications which 20 times higher in per capita compared to Pakistani 886, 3416 were accepted from India in USPTO 2015 compared to Pak's 16, or I say an average Indian is 33.34 times more innovative than an average Pakistani. India invests 25 times more than Pakistan on SciTech.
Adding over that, today you start threads for living standards against geopolitical issues, if current pace continues:
2010s
"Why India compares itself with China?"
10 years later,
"Why Pakistan and India compare themselves with India and China respectively?"
20 years later,
"Why Pakistan compares itself with India?"
30 years later,
"Why Pakistan compares itself with Bangladesh?"
Mark my words, if PDF exists for few more decades.
@Abingdonboy @Nilgiri
Hope we can have a civilised discussion here with our Indian members.
Why are you so desperate about with whom Indians wanna compare? Mind your own business.
Per capita wise and living standard, India is closer to Pakistan.
Temporarily & dends on a lot of things.
45.5% of Pakistani urban population lives in slums compared to India's 24% and China's & 25.2%. About 25% of Indian economy gets undocumented being black (like Pak's 40%, difference is that India's population isn't undocumented, so GDP per capita is better), adding over that, cost of living in India is lowest in the world. India has lots of metro systems, Mono rails & some of largest malls world.
In terms of military technology, India is closer to that of Pakistan.
I can't see Pakistan launching giant destroyers, aircraft carriers, making Turbofans, scramjets, ramjets, thrust vectoring controls, MilSats ICBMs or SLBMs or rockets in outer space.
India invests 25 times more than Pakistan on research and development and able to produce 81 out of 94 defined missile technologies compared to China's 92 but Pak's 39.
But because Indians were dominated by foreigners for a long time. They developed inferiority complex. This complex resulted in self grandeur and bragging. That is why many Indians try to compare to China in every turn and make proclamation that Indian is ahead of China. On the very,very few area that India is really ahead, India of course gloat all over but then also proclaim that they are ahead of US. For example, since India is the only other country besides USA that has a probe circling Mars, some Indians claims that India is ahead of US. If you think I'm making up this Bollywood crap, google it.
Working in UK or USA, dischraged by some Indian Company. So, putting out frustration here.
In sum, Indian inferiority complex cause them to compare only with countries that are way ahead of them, not equal to them.
Why does China compare with US then? It must compare with Middle income economies like Mexico & Brazil. When aspirations are great, you stick your eyes on great.
I'm from Taiwan. And I don't love China.
Cuz you love Pakistan.
For
sold equipment by India to other countries, you called it obsolete (without any technical critic but your tagline "Indian Junk"), mocking India's every venture, and not even on drawing board Pakistani ICBM,
"If Indians can do it, why can't Pakistan".
But China do not brag like the supa Powa.
You pretty sure about that?
The Pakistani were the ones that dominated the Hindus for over a thousand years before the British arrival. They are not the ones that have this inferiority complex. Indians are.
I thought Pakistanis were descendants of Indus Valley Civilization and
can claim Indian History.
(Adding over mathematical correction, Mughal empire initiated around early 15th century and ended till mid 19th century, how thousand years? Now, don't tell me that Pakistanis are Mughals, Mongols, Turks, Arabs, Persians and descendants of Indus Valley civilization at same time.
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