Why Chennai can't and won't speak Hindi

[Chola warrior]

lol it was for the entire Thread .. "why-chennai-cant-and-wont-speak-hindi:".. yes chennai will speak in hindi if need arises !!

Chennai wont speak. You come here..try to learn Tamil or manage with English never expect us to speak Hindi and be ready for you.
People of Chennai may speak only when they go outside.


I'm just amazed with hypocrisy of some people here. They just want to prove that everything in India is started from Sanskrit. Invasions and migrations happened everywhere in ancient world. Thought if Indo-europeans migrated to ancient India and mixed with so called dravdians..we had rich culture and civilization and lived together for thousands of years. So no point in talking about outsiders and insiders. For thousands of years everything would have mixed and almost become one.

You just want to prove Aryans are noble that belongs to only North India, so called Dravidian of south India not able and just demographic term...

 

[punit]

Chennai wont speak. You come here..try to learn Tamil or manage with English never expect us to speak Hindi and be ready for you.
People of Chennai may speak only when they go outside.


I'm just amazed with hypocrisy of some people here. They just want to prove that everything in India is started from Sanskrit. Invasions and migrations happened everywhere in ancient world. Thought if Indo-europeans migrated to ancient India and mixed with so called dravdians..we had rich culture and civilization and lived together for thousands of years. So no point in talking about outsiders and insiders. For thousands of years everything would have mixed and almost become one.

You just want to prove Aryans are noble that belongs to only North India, so called Dravidian of south India not able and just demographic term...

keep dreaming ! The poster is a proof that .. chennai is not anti hindi! Go watch a hindi movie in any chennai single screen theater and watch the impact of hindi!

for rest of the rantings.. they are ur own opinions and others have their own. yes we are living in peace and harmony since many thousands years and will continue to do so. All Indians are of mixed race any one believing in racial purity or diff should get their head checked!

ps: Dravidian or Aryans are not races.

 

[manlion]

ps: Aryans are not races.

Aryan not a race but a nomadic tribe

Rig Veda, HYMN LXXVII

3 For he is mental power, a man, and perfect; he is the bringer, friend-like, of the wondrous.
The pious Āryan tribes at sacrifices address them first to him who doeth marvels.

 

[Vinod2070]

This things hardly matters as both religions had been tolerant to each other and non-proselyting in nature. I was watching a BBC program where they conceded the cultural theft of 'Aryan' from the Indian scriptures after the historians found Swatika in excavation of Troy, and I already explained the cultural theft was meant to fill the cultural voidness of Germanic and Nordic Northern Europe who has no ancient civilization to feel proud of and can't rival the Greeco-Roman culture of South Europe.

That is true. It explains things like this whole Asura/Dasyu thing as well as this baseless invasion theory nonetheless.

The answers are all there and this pathetic pack of lies is dying it's death though there are still strong "academic" interests pushing it till it's last breath.

 

[punit]

Aryan not a race but a nomadic tribe

Rig Veda, HYMN LXXVII

the HYMN u quoted has nothing to do with Aryan Tribe ! its dedicated to Indra.

"
1. As cows low to their calves in stalls, so with our songs we glorify
This Indra, even your Wondrous God who checks attack, who joys in the delicious juice.
2 Celestial, bounteous Giver, girt about with might, rich, mountain-like, in precious things,
Him swift we seek. for foodful booty rich in kine, brought hundredfold and thousandfold.
3 Indra, the strong and lofty hills are powerless to bar thy way.
None stay that act of thine when thou wouldst fain give wealth to one like me who sings thy praise.
4 A Warrior thou by strength, wisdom, and wondrous deed, in might excellest all that is.
Hither may this our hymn attract thee to our help, the hymn which Gotamas have made.
5 For in thy might thou stretchest out beyond the boundaries of heaven.
The earthly region, Indra, comprehends thee not. After thy Godhead hast thou waxed.
6 When, Maghavan, thou honourest the worshipper, no one is there to stay thy wealth.
Most liberal Giver thou, do thou inspire our song of praise, that we may win the spoil."

 

[INDIC]

Aryan not a race but a nomadic tribe

Rig Veda, HYMN LXXVII

Whoa! "tribes", it was clans, not tribes. Still the verse don't prove Aryan was a race.

 

[manlion]

the HYMN u quoted has nothing to do with Aryan Tribe ! its dedicated to Indra.

the hymn is dedicated to Agni, the god who accepts the Aryan tribes fire sacrifices

1. How shall we pay oblation unto Agni? What hymn, God loved, is said to him refulgent?
Who, deathless, true to Law, mid men a herald, bringeth the Gods as best of sacrificers?

2 Bring him with reverence hither, most propitious in sacrifices, true to Law, the herald;
For Agni, when he seeks the Gods for mortals, knows them full well and worships them in spirit.

3 For he is mental power, a man, and perfect; he is the bringer, friend-like, of the wondrous.
The pious Āryan tribes at sacrifices address them first to him who doeth marvels

4 May Agni, foe-destroyer, manliest Hero, accept with love our hymns and our devotion.

 

[punit]

Whoa! "tribes", it was clans, not tribes. Still the verse don't prove Aryan was a race.

excatly.. the translation u are quoting is done by Ralph T.H. Griffith in 1839 and mentioned "Tribe" as per the theories of Aryans as race . here is a link to translation of Vedas by eminent scholar Pt. Sriram Sharma of Gayatri Parivar .
ऋगवेद भाग 1-A .:: Literature - All World Gayatri Pariwar its in hindi though

 

[Vinod2070]

excatly.. the translation is u are quoting is done by Ralph T.H. Griffith in 1839 and mentioned "Tribe" as per the theories of Aryans as race . here is a link to translation of Vedas by eminent scholar Pt. Sriram Sharma of Gayatri Parivar .
ऋगवेद भाग 1-A .:: Literature - All World Gayatri Pariwar its in hindi though

This Griffin guy made a lot of screw up in the translations.

And seems he is used by far too many as some kind of authentic source for the translations.

 

[punit]

This Griffin guy made a lot of screw up in the translations.

And seems he is used by far too many as some kind of authentic source for the translations.

i wont blame Him. He was trying to decode an ancient alien language ( as per him) within his own ideological boundaries.

 

[Chola warrior]

keep dreaming ! The poster is a proof that .. chennai is not anti hindi! Go watch a hindi movie in any chennai single screen theater and watch the impact of hind

lol..don't tell me that because I live in Chennai from my childhood.
Chennai is not anti-Hindi but just that don't expect us to speak in Hindi when you come here and stop imposing your so called impact of Hindi...we have out own language's impact.

 

[Bang Galore]

I have seen some great work in the study of Puranas, Rigveda, Avesta and sources like Aryan Mittani kingdom (and some others) in the middle East with their unmistakable links with India, now coming to light that shows comprehensively that these sources point to only one direction of the movement of Aryans.

From India to the West.

Depends on how you define Aryans(, there certainly is no evidence for the whole of the Indo-European family having migrated from India. Also the linguistic case remains formidable. While it is an interesting hypothesis, that unfortunately is all it is. It is easier to blow holes in the conventional AIT than it is to offer an alternate hypothesis backed by evidence.

This Griffin guy made a lot of screw up in the translations.

And seems he is used by far too many as some kind of authentic source for the translations.

Not too many and his was an honest effort.

 

[INDIC]

Depends on how you define Aryans(, there certainly is no evidence for the whole of the Indo-European family having migrated from India. Also the linguistic case remains formidable. While it is an interesting hypothesis, that unfortunately is all it is. It is easier to blow holes in the conventional AIT than it is to offer an alternate hypothesis backed by evidence.

It wasn't AIT-OIT but something different, there is definitely lots of commonality between Indo-Iranians but extremely rare among Indo-European people.

But I have seen lots of people who became attacking if someone points to loopholes in AIT. Although I don't believe in OIT, yet many people branded me as Hindutva rightist and many titles for not believing in AIT, they even don't want to consider the genetic tests.

 

[punit]

lol..don't tell me that because I live in Chennai from my childhood.
Chennai is not anti-Hindi but just that don't expect us to speak in Hindi when you come here and stop imposing your so called impact of Hindi...we have out own language's impact.

ok.. i was joking. dont take it in wrong way. what i meant that Hindi is not that alien as it was in say 60's .. hindi movies/songs are popular, even Tamil nationalist parties are covering extra mile to woo the Hindi origin voters. I have been to chennai numerous times in recent past and interacted with many persons in hindi without any problem. I am not in favor of imposing any language on any person. but at the same time people are learning diff languages either out of need or out of choice. Heck ! the best film reviewer of Hindi Film is Baradwaj Rangan ... a true blue tamilian and the current best hindi musician is also a Tamil ( do i need to tell u his name?) ! even my kamini Boss is from Chennai!!! Forget chennai .. In vellore u will get a feeling of being in kolkata even signboards are in bangla!

 

[Chola warrior]

ok.. i was joking. dont take it in wrong way. what i meant that Hindi is not that alien as it was in say 60's .. hindi movies/songs are popular, even Tamil nationalist parties are covering extra mile to woo the Hindi origin voters. I have been to chennai numerous times in recent past and interacted with many persons in hindi without any problem. I am not in favor of imposing any language on any person. but at the same time people are learning diff languages either out of need or out of choice. Heck ! the best film reviewer of Hindi Film is Baradwaj Rangan ... a true blue tamilian and the current best hindi musician is also a Tamil ( do i need to tell u his name?) ! even my kamini Boss is from Chennai!!! Forget chennai .. In vellore u will get a feeling of being in kolkata even signboards are in bangla!

-Tami people are not queuing up to watch Hindi movies.
-Still the best music director is doing music in Tamil for Tamil people and he shall do in Hindi for Hindi people...brrra obvious?
-The same music director spoke in Tamil when he won Oscar not in Hindi.
-Now about Vellore..it's my hometown and ironic now you just dragged it into discussion. why talk about Bengal when we arguing about Hindi? Begalis are not jumping to impose Bengali or to make it national language.
-If some Hindi movie critic is Tamil then even I can name whole bunch of other language speaking Tamil movie critics...

This is the very exact thing we don't want to hear. You want us to speak in Hindi just because we have to communicate with you?
What's special about you?

eventually Hindi can't and won't be national language and Chennai will always speak in Tamil.