Why Bangladesh overtook Pakistan

[CHACHA"G"]

Good to see that Pakistani intellectuals know it clearly that Bangladesh as a country has left Pakistan on dust and now it belongs to a completely different league.

Our aim is much higher though. By 2050 we r expecting to become a developed/semi developed nation.

here speaks the stronk bdo member . . . want it 2030 @Nilgiri now 2050 …. Asia need to be ready for supa powoa stronk bd in 2050

 

[Death Professor]

I stand corrected.. Impressive, One question though the LDC threshold is $ 1066, So why is Bangladesh still categorized as LDC ? Is it for the aforementioned trade and aid benefits ?

It's a projected figure. You can go through the whole document, no where did they state recorded GDP per capita for FY18. GDP per capita has almost tripled from FY07 reaching US$1,602 in FY17 and that is the latest recorded figure.

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications...lease-Staff-Report-and-Statement-by-the-45959

Btw, just to kill this bloated argument, here is another stat, lets go by PPP. When nominal values are close and almost the same then it's best to shift to PPP to have a better understanding on living conditions of the population.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

why the heck do we really need to know why and who took over.. Pakistan is different country and we didnt sell our soul to devil we are surviving and we have things in our backback that not many countries have and want others to have. so these skunks sud STFU.
vietnam malaysia brazil many other countries doing much better but non of them went thru 15 years of terrorism and 20 years of afghan war plus we have india whos biggest back stabber.

 

[dilpakistani]

War on terror was a turning point for Pakistan.... it had held us back allot... now as dust is settling down... we will be back on track

 

[Baby Leone]

this is called freedom in Pakistan that any one can fart anything, Freedom of speech ops this is something unheard for Bangalis.

just imagine if someone praise Pakistan in Bangladesh i bet riots will happen

 

[Pandora]

He teaches physics so how does that qualifies this douche to be a historian/political analyst.

 

[Solomon2]

He teaches physics so how does that qualifies this douche to be a historian/political analyst.

What do you think is the qualification "to be a historian/political analyst", a paper degree or a demonstrated mastery of facts and context?

 

[Pandora]

What do you think is the qualification "to be a historian/political analyst", a paper degree or a demonstrated mastery of facts and context?

When was the last time an American or Israeili TV channel or newspaper brought a Physics lecturer to make opinion on international affairs? Such international matters are a sensitive issues and only suit people who have a mastery in their field.

Only thing is that he has no mastery of facts or context. You cant just simply give a physics lecture one day and then decide to write a an opinion on international relations and defense matters the very next day. BTW there are people with degrees in Journalism, International relations, Defence relations, Internal negotiations etc for making such opinions. Just because a person has written a good worded a page load of opinion doesnt mean he knew squat about the topic at hand.

 

[Bilal9]

When was the last time an American or Israeili TV channel or newspaper brought a Physics lecturer to make opinion on international affairs? Such international matters are a sensitive issues and only suit people who have a mastery in their field.

Only thing is that he has no mastery of facts or context. You cant just simply give a physics lecture one day and then decide to write a an opinion on international relations and defense matters the very next day. BTW there are people with degrees in Journalism, International relations, Defence relations, Internal negotiations etc for making such opinions. Just because a person has written a good worded a page load of opinion doesnt mean he knew squat about the topic at hand.

His article was an OPINION PIECE, let's just leave it at that.

The point was not whether he was formally trained to offer an opinion or has mastery of facts on certain subjects like economics. The issue is that things are NOT okay in Pakistan the way things are being run now and those living in Pakistan are looking for alternatives. Nothing more - nothing less.

Many educated folks (Pakistani or not) overseas (and quite a few folks in Pakistan) agree with him. Some may not do it openly (Thanks to the fauji-controlled govt. existing in Pakistan), but many of us expats in the West speak to plenty of highly educated Pakistanis on weekly basis and this happens to be the general (and alarming) consensus.

Educated Pakistanis are trying to find a way out of this morass - hence these articles will keep appearing. The intelligentsia in Pakistan cannot keep silent while their country is being dragged down to the gutter by opportunists and feudal demagogues. Looting and chory has to come to an end sometime when there is nothing left to steal.

I don't wish to dispense advice in typical Desi fashion using schadenfreude (finding perverse pleasure in someone else's pain - although some do in this forum I'm quite sure, even if these fakers and false flaggers pose as friends to Pakistanis), but the state of economy in Pakistan will eventually devolve into uncontrollable humanitarian situation if corrective steps are not taken now.

Right now - the GDP in Pakistan is slightly north of $313 Billion (and shrinking), while that of Bangladesh (with about 25% less people, and THAT shrinking), is approaching $275 Billion (and rapidly expanding). GDP for Bangladesh was $249 billion last year. The country's per capita income is $1,752, which was $1,610 in fiscal 2016-17.

https://www.thedailystar.net/busine...s-towards-record-7.65-percent-in-2018-1557706

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1762089/2-size-pakistans-economy-313-13-billion-says-sbp/

Bangladesh did not get to this state of affairs just by selling it's soul to the devil recently (apparently, India), the basis was set a long time ago. The apparel export revolution started in Bangladesh in the late 1970's while Pakistan faltered. The micro-credit revolution in the 1980's and 90's passed Pakistan by in spite of the efforts of the Eedhi foundation. Women kept on staying indoors making babies (ticking time bomb) and not earning their keep and helping the economy like they should have.

Some Pakistanis have argued with me that the orangi bustee is composed 100% of Bangladeshis and all Pakistanis are supposedly rich!

These issues would come back to bite Pakistan and the elite of Pakistan were too busy stealing from the coffers and stashing them in Dubai to notice. It is sad that an outsider has to state these things as a Mehman of yours, but facts are facts. Your enemies certainly won't tell you.

Some Pakistanis kept on pretending that Pakistan has no poor and is a first world country, just build some nice showcase projects like Dubai type roads, highways and defence societies and things will keep being the way they are. Well think again...you need a basis on the economy first.

@Joe Shearer @Black_cats @Homo Sapiens @UKBengali @TopCat your thoughts please...

 

[Nilgiri]

Pakistan is slightly north of $313 Billion (and shrinking)

Its not shrinking stupid.

 

[Neptune_]

here speaks the stronk bdo member . . . want it 2030 @Nilgiri now 2050 …. Asia need to be ready for supa powoa stronk bd in 2050

There's a reason why we r considered as the shinning beacon of southeast Asia that everyone wants to emulate, ok?

GDP growth rate, per capita income, literacy rate, child mortality rate, women empowerment, law and order, minority protection u name it, we r the best in every single of these factors and we r improving at such a high Speed that currently it's impossible for anyone to follow us , especially for a country like Pakistan with a broken economy.

We r in a different league bro.

 

[Pandora]

His article was an OPINION PIECE, let's just leave it at that.

The point was not whether he was formally trained to offer an opinion or has mastery of facts on certain subjects like economics. The issue is that things are NOT okay in Pakistan the way things are being run now and those living in Pakistan are looking for alternatives. Nothing more - nothing less.

Many educated folks (Pakistani or not) overseas (and quite a few folks in Pakistan) agree with him. Some may not do it openly (Thanks to the fauji-controlled govt. existing in Pakistan), but many of us expats in the West speak to plenty of highly educated Pakistanis on weekly basis and this happens to be the general (and alarming) consensus.

Educated Pakistanis are trying to find a way out of this morass - hence these articles will keep appearing. The intelligentsia in Pakistan cannot keep silent while their country is being dragged down to the gutter by opportunists and feudal demagogues. Looting and chory has to come to an end sometime when there is nothing left to steal.

I don't wish to dispense advice in typical Desi fashion using schadenfreude (finding perverse pleasure in someone else's pain - although some do in this forum I'm quite sure, even if these fakers and false flaggers pose as friends to Pakistanis), but the state of economy in Pakistan will eventually devolve into uncontrollable humanitarian situation if corrective steps are not taken now.

Right now - the GDP in Pakistan is slightly north of $313 Billion (and shrinking), while that of Bangladesh (with about 25% less people, and THAT shrinking), is approaching $275 Billion (and rapidly expanding). GDP for Bangladesh was $249 billion last year. The country's per capita income is $1,752, which was $1,610 in fiscal 2016-17.

https://www.thedailystar.net/busine...s-towards-record-7.65-percent-in-2018-1557706

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1762089/2-size-pakistans-economy-313-13-billion-says-sbp/

Bangladesh did not get to this state of affairs just by selling it's soul to the devil recently (apparently, India), the basis was set a long time ago. The apparel export revolution started in Bangladesh in the late 1970's while Pakistan faltered. The micro-credit revolution in the 1980's and 90's passed Pakistan by in spite of the efforts of the Eedhi foundation. Women kept on staying indoors making babies (ticking time bomb) and not earning their keep and helping the economy like they should have.

Some Pakistanis have argued with me that the orangi bustee is composed 100% of Bangladeshis and all Pakistanis are supposedly rich!

These issues would come back to bite Pakistan and the elite of Pakistan were too busy stealing from the coffers and stashing them in Dubai to notice. It is sad that an outsider has to state these things as a Mehman of yours, but facts are facts. Your enemies certainly won't tell you.

Some Pakistanis kept on pretending that Pakistan has no poor and is a first world country, just build some nice showcase projects like Dubai type roads, highways and defence societies and things will keep being the way they are. Well think again...you need a basis on the economy first.

@Joe Shearer @Black_cats @Homo Sapiens @UKBengali @TopCat your thoughts please...

Did you say GDP is shrinking? Are you high?

 

[Black_cats]

Did you say GDP is shrinking? Are you high?

Due to depreciation of Pakistani Rupee. Obviously it is shrinking in terms of USD. Now it’s around 285 billion usd. 312 billion usd is figure from last year

 

[Pandora]

Due to depreciation of Pakistani Rupee. Obviously it is shrinking in terms of USD. Now it’s around 285 billion usd. 312 billion usd is figure from last year

The economy is still expected to grow around 4% despite accounting for depreciation of currency. It is better to wait for official stats from Government, IMF and world bank rather than concocting your own stories. I know the urge for you bengalis to prove yourself superior to pakistanis is insatiable but that aint happening any time soon.

To all the genius bengalis claiming pakistani GDP is shrinking merely need to check stats at IMF and world bank websites. Rupee depreciation will defintely cause econmy to slow down to 4-5% GDP but it will still grow. Not once in history of pakistan has once our economy has shrunk even durring sanctions after our nuke tests.

 

[Black_cats]

The economy is still expected to grow around 4% despite accounting for depreciation of currency. It is better to wait for official stats from Government, IMF and world bank rather than concocting your own stories. I know the urge for you bengalis to prove yourself superior to pakistanis is insatiable but that aint happening any time soon.

To all the genius bengalis claiming pakistani GDP is shrinking merely need to check stats at IMF and world bank websites. Rupee depreciation will defintely cause econmy to slow down to 4-5% GDP but it will still grow. Not once in history of pakistan has once our economy has shrunk even durring sanctions after our nuke tests.

It already came out. Bangladesh's GDP is now 313 Billion USD as of 2019 while Pakistan's GDP has dropped to 283 billion USD.

Please look at page 21 & 22 of this report to get the list:

https://cebr.com/download/5211/

Pakistan has dropped from 41st to 44th on the list this year in 2019. Pakistan's detail info can be found at page 175.

It was discussed in detail here:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bangladesh-2nd-largest-economy-in-south-asia.595543/