Why Bangladesh overtook Pakistan

[Mage]

lowly Bengali slaves

Very nice way to address Bangladeshis..The writer correctly states

Shouting ‘Pakistan zindabad’ from the rooftops while obsequiously taking dictation from the Americans, Chinese, and Saudis has taken us nowhere.

 

[Max]

Very nice way to address Bangladeshis..The writer correctly states

It's much better and respected way then I usually use for your kind but let's leave it here.

Pakistan army offiicially never took part against PLO, he violated code of conduct for which he was about to get court martial but then come 1971 and he got excused, rest is BS.

 

[Gibbs]

Check IMF data which is more up to date.
https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/BGD

I stand corrected.. Impressive, One question though the LDC threshold is $ 1066, So why is Bangladesh still categorized as LDC ? Is it for the aforementioned trade and aid benefits ?

 

[bluesky]

Yes, we should accept status of vassal state of Bharat Mata like lowly Bengali slaves and give up on security and disputed territory and start working on garment factories to be super great like Bangladesh. The only difference between us and you is we fvcked up garment sector, not (Kashmir not Somalia, not India ).. as we didn't supported that sector with subsidies and supporting price which our compitators were doing. We instead wasted money to build world class roads, motarways, highways blah blah.

You seem to be too jealous of Bangladesh because of its multi-sectoral achievements. Your Bharat Mata is controlling Kashmir and the sources of water for many rivers. Afghanistan and the people of Baluchistan are friendly with India. They together may engulf your country. I heard they want to separate Baluchistan so that the five Central Asian countries and Afghanistan can get passage to the Arabian Sea.

So, prepare yourself by giving birth to another 200 million people and adding another 2 million troops to avoid catastrophe. You better keep India busy in its western front. Meanwhile, we keep on progressing on the economic front.

 

[Max]

You seem to be too jealous of Bangladesh because of its multi-sectoral achievements. Your Bharat Mata is controlling Kashmir and the sources of water for many rivers. Afghanistan and the people of Baluchistan are friendly with India. They together may engulf your country. I heard they want to separate Baluchistan so that the five Central Asian countries and Afghanistan can get passage to the Arabian Sea.

So, prepare yourself by giving birth to another 200 million people and adding another 2 million troops to avoid catastrophe. You better keep India busy in its western front. Meanwhile, we keep on progressing on the economic front.

Why someone would feel jealous from lowly subhumans?

as I said the only difference is garment factories, not Kashmir Somalia not you so called multi sectoral blah blah.

No matter how hard you try us to convince of being lowly slave of holy Bharat mata, we will piss on your head Everytime with facts.

Remeber Garment sector that too only dependent on India, if they slow down economically, the first thing they will do is shift all garment factories in India.

 

[Mage]

I stand corrected.. Impressive, One question though the LDC threshold is $ 1066, So why is Bangladesh still categorized as LDC ? Is it for the aforementioned trade and aid benefits ?

There are three conditions. One being the per capita threshold. Other two being economic vulnerability and human asset. A country has to match two out of those three and maintain it for three years for graduation.
In 2015 many expected Bangladesh was going to graduate from LDC status. However according to UN Bangladesh barely missed out from two of the three criterias. Meeting only one. The review is done in every three years. So they again came to review in 2018 and declared that Bangladesh met all three conditions needed for graduating from LDC status. So if Bangladesh can keep these stats up for three years, in 2021, Bangladesh will officially graduate from LDC status. And will enjoy LDC benefits for three more uears till 2024.

 

[Solomon2]

Bhutto was a complete idiot. He had no sense or ability to be a genuine leader. He falls in the class of Saddam Hossein, Gaddafi etc.

No, Z.A. Bhutto was a very clever chap. He just didn't want to lead East Pakistanis, only rule them. That's why he encouraged the war and that's why, when the Pakistani Army surrendered in Dhaka, he was content to see Pakistan break up and lead the western fraction rather than accept defeat, confederation, and his proper role as an opposition leader.

 

[Nilgiri]

Well one cannot deny they have made marked improvements especially in HDI's, While Pakistan have been regressing in many of it's own Human development programs especially in education and in health.. This no one can deny, Irrespective of the source and it's lack of credit it's quite evident.. There may be multitude of reasons for this as many Pakistani posters have tried to highlight but in the end it boils down to the priorities of governance and the attitude of the people

And another aspect is Bangladesh is rising from a very low base, Hence it's natural they're showing bigger growth numbers, Doesn't necessarily mean they have over taken or even caught up India in most economic fronts but the growth trajectory is higher

I agree with you being one of the most corrupt nations to their own admission it's hard to believe the numbers coming from BBS but even if you disregard that there are enough evidence to correlate much of the human development gains.. And i certainly do not agree that 100's of badly made CGI posted here daily of supposedly being build is the real pic or some of obnoxious claims from the usual Bongle Stronk Brigade is the reality, Far from it

But credit need to be given where it's due.. And i'm quite glad of that development, It's really good for the region as a whole

I agree the progress is good...I am not saying its zero. Far from it....there are many things to learn on all sides and get more progress going everywhere. Case in point is how BD achieved 0 open defecation, it (lessons learned) is playing a large role in the program India is implementing on it right now. I mean there is big difference I know first hand in my region of India (between the 4 southern states, as to how they have gone about developing economically versus socially etc)...but the key thing is they all learn from the successes of each other and avoid the failures each has had too....and it is bearing fruit (Kerala for example introducing good economic policies that bore fruit in TN for jobs and investment, TN likewise is incorporating programs that worked well in Kerala to reduce illiteracy and poverty etc)

Yes I direct my criticism more in view of the stronky stronk posturing members.....not to rest on laurels as there are always problems (even in developed countries, forget developing where we just starting the real marathon) that get overlooked, under-represented or flat out lied about (yes even at official number/govt level).

Thus we must see which of these are the most susceptible and work on them as priority....rather than over-focus on feeling "better" (on numbers which may or may not be grounded that well) compared to another country/neighbour/mentor what have you.

@GeraltofRivia @Joe Shearer

 

[Nilgiri]

Lol.. As if the real world work like your fantasies do.. First get in to the middle income bracket and then brag.. Is this guy for real @bluesky @Mage ??

BTW Bangladesh per Capita GDP was $ 1516 (2018) as opposed to Pakistans $ 1547 in 2017, As to how it jumped to $ 1800 is a few months only you Bongle Stronk brigade clowns would now.. @Nilgiri

He is a funny fella, that enjoys a little trolling (I certainly hope he is not so ignorant like he comes off here). I mean the guy thinks he is a mongol warlord lol....so I call him "Biman Babu Khan of the Shonar Horde" now:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/isla...g-industry-on-edge.444661/page-6#post-8586417

In all seriousness, the guy doesn't know anything about low base or medium base or high base or whatever base lol . I mean once you take away the inflation that Bangladesh seems to love dumping on its GDP per capita (to the stage where their real household income is now in decline sadly)....what is so different about BD "base" compared to those that treaded the path in the region before it? (forget PPP for sake of the argument, but at least take away inflation):

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD?locations=BD-IN-LK

From 800 dollars per capita to 1000 dollars per capita..... (Recent BD flux stage)

Sri Lanka took 6 years, India took 4 years.

Bangladesh took 5 years.

Whoopdie friggin doo...

@Marine Rouge @bluesky @Mage @Tanveer666 @GeraltofRivia

But you know whats going to be pretty awful for BD soon? Its very low energy consumption rate and over reliance on just one export industry (that is only there because of good graces of LDC program). Yet Topcat thinks it wont have some "middle income" trap....compared to other countries that have diversified far far more. But then again he thinks Aladdin skyscraper is gonna happen and that Biman is a good, successful airlines.

 

[fallstuff]

Damn dude Hoodbhoy got it all figured out !!
I assume he has 2 PhDs in economics from Ivy League Universities, one post PhD from LSE, and many other accolades, which makes me wonder why our PM Imran Khan is not hiring him as the Finance Minister.

I am sure compared to the Bangladeshi's, he will be able to lick Indian boots better. Quote me your GDP per capita, or how much land per capita a person in Bangla owns? Now spin it without replying to a different topic like rest of country mates keep doing here. LUL.

My friend ignorance is not a bliss, contrary to what others say !
Singapore with just 247 square miles produces $323 billion worth of good and services. That is being Efficient with capital E. Singapore is producing more than billion dollars worth of goods and services per square mile of land mass. Imagine what those guys could do if they had our land mass or for that matter Pakistan's land mass.
Its not what you got , but what do you with it.

The point is the entire South Asia is dismally piss-poor, there is no point in d**k measuring contest. I am aware of Dawn columnists liberal bias, I am not much fan of liberal folks anyway, but I do think the writer is right on the point that Pakistan focuses more on the military and security than Bangladesh. In general no one in Bangladesh cares much about defense budgets and military capability. If they did they would not keep buying useless F7 and Yak-130s when the nation could certainly afford advanced 4 G warplanes. Only Bangladeshi posters on PDF talk about it, no one else that I know ever does.

 

[Bilal9]

Not in 2018. I think 1516 was in 2016. You can check according to IMF per capita of Bangladesh in the beginning of 2017 was $1602. Pakistan's $1546. Link
According to Bangladesh govt, Nominal per capita of Bangladesh in June 2018 was $ 1752. And according to IMF estimates BD gdp per capita(nominal) is expected to be $ 1880 in 2019. While Pakistan's per capita is harder to estimate due to lack of data.

That being said, Biman Babu, Bilal and YKBengali here like to exaggerate things out of proportion. They are good guys just overly optimistic about the future of Bangladesh.

You would be too my dear, if you know Bangladesh as well as we do and weren't frozen in the Swedish tundra.

Being on the ground and being waqifahal is a basic quality needed for being confident.

You forget how many times I have also dissed the locals and the PM as well...it varies...

 

[Nilgiri]

Impressive

About half of it is unfortunately inflation in BD's case.

 

[Gibbs]

About half of it is unfortunately inflation in BD's case.

Figures

He is a funny fella, that enjoys a little trolling (I certainly hope he is not so ignorant like he comes off here). I mean the guy thinks he is a mongol warlord lol....so I call him "Biman Babu Khan of the Shonar Horde"

.. Well that was waste of my time to engage with a wanker with delusions of grandeur.. A mongol you say ?? .. Then there is Mr. badly done CGI.. Who claims to have traveled to every country in the world thrice over and have the magical power to be in Dhaka and Southern California at the same time... These Bongle stronk Brigade i tell ya mate

 

[Death Professor]

My friend ignorance is not a bliss, contrary to what others say !
Singapore with just 247 square miles produces $323 billion worth of good and services. That is being Efficient with capital E. Singapore is producing more than billion dollars worth of goods and services per square mile of land mass. Imagine what those guys could do if they had our land mass or for that matter Pakistan's land mass.
Its not what you got , but what do you with it.

I knew Singapore's example was coming up, the issue is it's population is still nothing compared to countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. Read my comment number 19 again.

Like him so much? have him as a gift from us. The issue is whatever he is spouting has been told again and again by the current government. The issue is when this retard doesn't know the geography is Pakistan and is comparing it with Bangladesh, the issue is ignoring the fact that no other country has that many people to feed while having such a small piece of land(now please don't give me example of Singapore, look at Singapore's population).

The point is the entire South Asia is dismally piss-poor, there is no point in d**k measuring contest.

But here hoodbhoy is doing exactly that. Do you you what is meaning of comparison. When you put countries and compare each-other, it is exactly that d**k measuring contest. I would be fine if this wasn't the case.

but I do think the writer is right on the point that Pakistan focuses more on the military and security than Bangladesh. In general no one in Bangladesh cares much about defense budgets and military capability. If they did they would not keep buying useless F7 and Yak-130s when the nation could certainly afford advanced 4 G warplanes. Only Bangladeshi posters on PDF talk about it, no one else that I know ever does.

Ok, we are talking about military budget now, lets really examine how much is every one spending, lets break the narrative of this Yahoodbhoy. Under following links go to indicators, go to government tab:

Pakistan Military expenditure: 10378 M $
India Military expenditure: 59757M$
Bangladesh Military expenditure: 3473M $

You don't care yet you are spending 3.5 B$, we care because we have had three fckin wars(with a country 7 times the size of us) on top of that we had Soviet Union invading Afghan(5M afghan refugees), on top of that we have had US invading Afghanistan, on top of that we have had TTP(Tehreek e Taliban Pakistan) +diash+ISIS+Indian proxies(BLA), on top of that we have to deal with Indian aggression in IOK and on line of control. And this retard thinks that we are or we have been spending too much? how is 10.3 B$ too much under these circumstances. Btw do tell why in the hell are you spending 3.5B $, to me that is too much when you have already decided to sit in lap of India.

My friend ignorance is not a bliss, contrary to what others say ! Yes exactly.

You forgot the latest one.

Some 1,800 Bangladeshi troops will be deployed in Saudi Arabia to defuse and remove mines along the borders of war-torn Yemen once the deal is signed. I guess you guys will lick boots of whatever nation throws some money. All that was done in past was in the name of Muslim brotherhood, but no more. Even with that at-least we had some self respect to not sit in the lap of hindu baniya.

 

[Neptune_]

Good to see that Pakistani intellectuals know it clearly that Bangladesh as a country has left Pakistan on dust and now it belongs to a completely different league.

Our aim is much higher though. By 2050 we r expecting to become a developed/semi developed nation.