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Why are we so adamant in our support for Palestine when they themselves support India against us?

Relax. Right now it's Iran that's guilty of killing innocent Muslims in Syria. Introspect.

And why should I ? I,m not accountable for whatever Iran does.

As for the killing in Syria, all parties are participants and enjoy shifting the blame to one another, what matters most is preserving the integrity of the nation's lands, now can you guess which 2 nations intend to annex syrian lands ? I,l give you a hint, its not Iran.
 
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I won't recognise this state because the crimes these lot committed on humanity but got away due to usury power and media strength. but if you want to betray the quran that your choice.

Moustapha Al Akkad was a Syrian American film producer and director, best known for producing the original series of Halloween films and directing The Message and Lion of the Desert. He was killed along with his daughter Rima Al Akkad Monla in the 2005 Amman bombings. who do you think is behind it? take a guess.

The Arab world recognises India even though the crimes they have committed against Kashmiri muslims is much worse, tell me I really want you to answer this question for me, are they not going against the Quran when they support India knowing full well the atrocities they have committed against Kashmiri Muslims? or are Kashmiri muslim lives not that important because they are not Arabs or Palestinians?
 
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Ummah chummah. Palestines are like Afghans. They've screwed up every country they've been to. Just make peace with Israel and get it the f over with.

remember what they found in yasser arafats bones , when they ex humained the body 8 yrs after his death?2004------2015

pollonium 210--------- he was poisoned.......

look around from which pharmacie can it come from?

they did it to general zia also,.........israeil nerve gas,

since then everyone is following the line in pakistan............ civil/military........... 1 page


does any one know from which book this certain page is??????????


A HINT............ ROTHCHILDS/GOLDSMITHS........... some may not like the link, but yeah,,, truth hurts certain quarters more then others......

correction 2004---2012

I think it's a very simple answer, majority of the Pakistanis are not aware of the back stabbing the Arabs usually do and use the Muslim brother-hood card when it only serves their own interest and kick the bucket when it doesn't, majority of the Pakistanis feel that Muslim Brotherhood is as extremely prevalent in Arab societies as it is within theirs plus as you mentioned the hardline approach that Israelis take in dealing with Palestinians, the combination of the first two misconception and reality of the third results in an extremely pro Palestinian view to such an extend that we would adamantly adhere to that view even if it harms our own self interest, besides I am not even interested in having "relations" with Israel, the main problem I am interested in is dealing with the Arabs, talking and exploiting them as they exploit us without the Muslim Brotherhood card in play because frankly there isn't any brotherhood here.

To an extend the Arabs are aware of this and try to exploit it as much as possible, Muslim identity is a strong weapon we just need to learn to differentiate the real Muslims from the fake ones example from Turkey compared to the Arab nations.



I completely agree with you we should have foreign policy solely based on our own self interest, and it serves our interest better to have good relations with Israel instead of picking them as enemies and fighting someone else's war for them, exactly like what the Palestinians and the Arabs are doing we should do the same and this is the sole purpose of this thread.


I completely agree with you we should have foreign policy solely based on our own self interest,

right, our foreign policy is based on our self intrests..........!!

our! means just a few 100 in 3 pcs suits

not . the ours...........220 millions awaam..
 
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The Arab world recognises India even though the crimes they have committed against Kashmiri muslims is much worse, tell me I really want you to answer this question for me, are they not going against the Quran when they support India knowing full well the atrocities they have committed against Kashmiri Muslims? or are Kashmiri muslim lives not that important because they are not Arabs or Palestinians?

that why they are humiliated. Quran talked about thier downfall and stupidity.

as if we recognise Israel then we become super duper power that builds quality cars and processor chips etc. how bout getting rid of internal traitors and bring technocrats.
 
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The Arabs are the worst hypocrites in the World. Gone are the bygone days of Late Shah Faisal, today's Arab lot are the lap dogs of the West. The only issue is these puppets bank role our establishment and have millions of our compatriots working there. Otherwise the whole Middle East needs a total revamp and change of regimes.
Lol. King Faisal of Saudi was also western ally. In fact the Al Saud family was made ruler of Saudi by the British
 
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King Faisal of Saudi was also western ally.
Dont mix King Faisal with King Saud, he was a STAUNCH supporter of the Muslim cause. Sadly the CIA got him assassinated through his nephew below.
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"We are supporting India in its fight against terrorism and because of that my government decided to directly call our ambassador to go back home, not to be Palestine ambassador to Pakistan anymore," Palestinian Ambassador to India Adnan Abu Al Haij said.

https://www.newsheads.in/world/news...Zr2HNlXuzcAl9lNS8yTey66yKWLCsG76ru1Uo806acEZQ

Let me get this straight, muslim countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt have diplomatic relations with Israel while we are one of the only few countries that do not even recognise Israel and for what?, Palestine supports India when it serves their interest, Saudi Arabia and UAE vetoes us in favor of India when it serves theirs while we are suppose to be good little muslims and support those who stab us in the back, harming our own self interest for them, why?
Lol..and what kinda support are we giving ??
Value of palestine by the way is palestinian holy land FYI this the reason why muslim support palestinian claim
 
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I have always been in support of the concept of Ummah. Its actually part of our faith. However, charity begins at home. Strengthen yourself to the point in every which way. Till then no need to jump up and down for these so called brothers. Get your house in order first. Ruthless action against the corrupt should be where it starts (wishful thinking I know). Actually this qoam has lost its ghairat both individually and collectively. False ghairat we got plenty of though. Anyway mind is getting worked up and I feel I am ranting now.
The concept of Ummah died thousands of years ago. The first infighting between muslims was between the forces of Ali and the forces of Ayesha during the battle of Camel. Also did you forget the battle of Karbala where the Ummayud Caliphate brutally murdered the grandson of Prophet Muhammad?

Even during the times of the Caliphate muslims were divided. There were many small muslim sultanates who never showed allieagance to the Caliphate and ruled independently.

In India and Persia things were much worse. The Mughals fought the Safavids and the Delhi Sultanate, the Safavids fought the Ottoman empires.
 
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The Palestinians seek support from whoever they can get it from. India has more international clout than Pakistan for a number of reasons foremost of all that it is not a Muslim country.

Pakistan is to some extent is following its own interests. They have to have good relations with the Arab world especially when so many Pakistanis live and work there.

Israel is the enemy of all Muslims. They occupy our holy sites and kill Muslims throughout the region. What benefit has Turkey received from having relations with the Zionists? No real benefit at all.
 
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The majority of Pakistanis have probably never met a Palestinian in their life or have any idea about what they know about Pakistan. While they might have a problem of their own, a Palestine city like Ramallah seems even more organized and livable than Larkana in Sindh. I wonder what the reaction of the pakistanis talking about palestine problem as if its their own will be when they see videos of palestinian talking about places they would like to visit and none would mention pakistan
Actually it's not like that. Pakistan is still not as famous as Thailand, Indonesia, India, Malaysia, UAE, Europe for tourism. Not just Palestinians, anyone would mention Eurotrips, beaches of Pataya, Taj Mahal, Bali, Kuala Lumpur etc if you ask them about their favourite destination
 
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Lol..and what kinda support are we giving ??
Value of palestine by the way is palestinian holy land FYI this the reason why muslim support palestinian claim

Almost all the Arab countries have some kind of relations with Israel so tell me which Muslim countries actually support the Palestinian cause? and have you forgotten the Prophets saying that the blood of a Muslim is more sacred than even the Kaaba so tell me according to the Prophet SAW himself which is more sacred the Muslim blood spilled in the valleys of Kashmir and the criminal silence of the Arab nations because of it, if Pakistanis like you valued your own people more and had more self worth than maybe we would bargain with the Arabs better like for the territorial support of Saudi Arabia we want complete embargo on India and full economic support of Pakistan, if the Arabs can not even give this much knowing full well the Muslim blood the Neo Nazi RSS Bhagts have spilled than shame on us for even considering these fellow Arab "Muslims" as "brothers" or playing the Muslim Brotherhood mantra.

While the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) was performing tawaaf (circulating) the Holy Ka`ba, he said to it:
"How pure and good you are! how pure and good your fragrance is! how great and exalted you are! and how great and exalted your sanctity is! But by Him in Whose hand is Muhammad’s soul, the sanctity of a believer’s blood and property in the sight of Allah is greater than your sanctity!’“

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Because we are not beghairat like those Arabs and those Palestinians. They are humiliated today because they betrayed the Kalifah of Islam for the British.

Al Aqsa is holy to us, it is Qibla Awal. Our Prophet Muhammad pbuh taught us to love that land and to preserve it.

Before we are anything else we are followers of RasoolAllah saws.

Allah loves those who stand up to evil - wherever that evil is. Just next door to us Allah has blessed the Taliban with victory against the greatest military force in history. Have faith in Allah and stick to the right path.

If you equate your support for the liberation of Al Aqsa with some love of Arab nations then you are an idiot. It should come from love of Haq, love of the wishes of RasoolAllah.
 
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Whenever someone makes a "statement" with the word "we" or "hum" in Pakistan like "we are like this" or "hum aisay hain", my advice is not to take that person seriously because that person is actually trying to shift his own psychological disorders to all the people around him or herself.
 
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today's Arab lot are the lap dogs of the West.

Reported.

Phir woh ban jayenge "Bani Israel", our brothers through Isaac. The same people who were called apes and pigs before.

the surah referred to those who began to see the calf as a diety as 'apes and pigs'

a male muslim marrying a jew is completely allowable isn't it? i do not think it would have been considered allowable if jews really were apes and pigs
 
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But I bet you, our clergy will have a sudden change of heart once KSA religious authorities accept Israel. Mental ghulaami.
Yknow, this is actually an interesting question. Are you sure this will transpire? Or will our clergy try to be "uber-Arab" in this scenario? They can be total nutcases. I distinctly recall immediate Saudi edicts banning mosque congregations as part of their lockdown response without any local dissent to said decision - meanwhile some folks in Pakistan were arguing against federal and state policies until they basically got their way. Some isolated incidents of stone pelting even occurred. You're really that confident that the genie can be put back in the bottle if Saudi says so?

can you guess which 2 nations intend to annex syrian lands
Iran and Russia have simply vassalised Syria so why would they need to annex its land? Please don't derail the thread.
 
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