Why are we so adamant in our support for Palestine when they themselves support India against us?

[Indus Pakistan]

Inferiority complex and nothing else. Ashamed of their South Asian pagan past.

More than that I think. They don't show the same complex with regards to Afghans, Iranians, Central Asians. I think because Pakistani identity has been configured around 'Muslim'. And our simpletons thing "Islam > Arabs".

So 'arab' is almost a synomym to Islam to them. So there they go licking ...

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

PLO has always been a secular organization and Pakistani stance is with Palestinians not PLO. In fact if anything Pakistan has fought against PLO to protect Jordanian kingdom.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

loyal like a japanese car.

Trust me even Toyota Camry can't match this loyalty. If you misbehaved, treated a Toyota Camry like Arabs do to Pakistan eventually even the loyal Camry would say to the owner "fcuk you I am not moving".

Take a hike .......

 

[Cliftonite]

More than that I think. They don't show the same complex with regards to Afghans, Iranians, Central Asians. I think because Pakistani identity has been configured around 'Muslim'. And our simpletons thing "Islam > Arabs".

So 'arab' is almost a synomym to Islam to them. So there they go licking ...

To evade that, you need secular nationalism like Turkey. What can we do wehn our army and establishment is infested with this complex? Their ringleader Al Zia ibn ul Haq

 

[Naofumi]

More than that I think. They don't show the same complex with regards to Afghans, Iranians, Central Asians. I think because Pakistani identity has been configured around 'Muslim'. And our simpletons thing "Islam > Arabs".

So 'arab' is almost a synomym to Islam to them. So there they go licking ...

This is historical too, for example Timur left only "Arab" origin Muslims when he massacred Delhi, this also triggered Ashrafisation in subcontinent. Heck, there have been historical cases of minor Persian nobles fabricating Arab ancestry especially Sayyid one.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Pakistani stance is with Palestinians

Newsflah. PLO is not imported from Papua New Guinea. It is a native, local popular, dominant, with majority support of the Palestinian people. Yasser Arafat remains the most popular and iconic leader to Palestinians like we have Jinnah. So that secularism is genus of the Palestinian people and NOT a American or Yehoodi sazish.

 

[Azadkashmir]

I just don't believe in this needle in the arm bypassing the body. I mean the prophets did not inject, the native Americans did not etc. it should be voluntary. first question what is in the vaccine?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

That is the question I have been asking for last 30 years. Pakistani's. The only people who love licking up to the people who kick them in the arse, then kick them in the nuts. But even after all that they will go on for another lick and if asked why they will reply with ......

"they be Arab Muslims".

Inferiority complex and nothing else. Ashamed of their South Asian pagan past.

I don't think it has anything to do with the Arabs or Turks and us following their lead, because both the GCC and the Turks are improving their relationship with Israel. The Turks have historically had a strong relationship with Israel that went downhill in recent years. Given the degree of support Turkey has among Pakistanis, your line of argument would imply that support for normalizing Pakistan's relationship with Israel should be pretty high.

Iran in fact is the country most vehemently opposed to Israel in the region and has been actively supporting Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel, and Iran's popularity in Pakistan keeps shrinking (for various reasons).

I think the issue is simply one of the rabble rousing religious right in Pakistan hijacking the issue and exploiting & exacerbating existing antisemitism in conjunction with the 'support the Muslim Ummah' sentiment in Pakistani society - a job made easier by Israel's own brutal and repressive policies and the easy availability of images and videos.

The militantly vehement opposition to Pakistan normalizing relations with Israel has some parallels to other issues such as reforming blasphemy laws and the Ahmadi community - Pakistanis (or at least the more vocal segments) seem to take far more hardline positions on certain religious issues than people in other countries.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

what is in the vaccine

Yahoodi sazish.

 

[Iltutmish]

Inferiority complex and nothing else. Ashamed of their South Asian pagan past.

Unfortunately. How often do we hear from Pakistanis „I have Arab Ancestors!“ like it’s something special. And Arabs were the worst pagans and have nothing to do with the prophet (PBUH)!

Your dead ancestors cannot help you. Neither on earth nor in the hereafter. There was a Omani princess descending from the prophet (PBUH) himself fleeing their country with a westerner and converting to Christianity. So? Will her descendence help her on the day of judgement?

Be what you are without feeling inferior or superior to others just because of your origins!

 

[Cliftonite]

I don't think it has anything to do with the Arabs or Turks and us following their lead, because both the GCC and the Turks are improving their relationship with Israel. The Turks have historically had a strong relationship with Israel that went downhill in recent years. Given the degree of support Turkey has among Pakistanis, your line of argument would imply that support for normalizing Pakistan's relationship with Israel should be pretty high.

Iran in fact is the country most vehemently opposed to Israel in the region and has been actively supporting Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel, and Iran's popularity in Pakistan keeps shrinking (for various reasons).

I think the issue is simply one of the rabble rousing religious right in Pakistan hijacking the issue and exploiting & exacerbating existing antisemitism in conjunction with the 'support the Muslim Ummah' sentiment in Pakistani society - a job made easier by Israel's own brutal and repressive policies and the easy availability of images and videos.

We've been fed 70 years of anti semitic propaganda. It's going to take time to wean us off. But I bet you, our clergy will have a sudden change of heart once KSA religious authorities accept Israel. Mental ghulaami.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

our clergy will have a sudden change of heart once KSA religious authorities accept Israel

100%. Watch how halal Israel will become then.

 

[zhxy]

China makes the same mistake as Pakistan. They condemn Israel for the Palestinians.

Israel has military, economic and technological cooperation. China should not say anything that affects relations between the two countries.

 

[Azadkashmir]

there were in Russia and they killed the czar and millions of Russians, they were comfortable in german they sold her out, they were taken in by the sultan and then they overthrow him, taking Jerusalem, they were in the USA as a golden child and look what fifth and bankrupt state USA us in. you want to recognise Israel, hoping they might throw your more rupees, however this whore will devour you have you forgotten about india and israel ties. east India company - david sassoons.

 

[Vapnope]

I think we need to understand that world is not in just black and white and foreign policy cannot work like this "with with them or with us". We don't need to make our foreign policy with Indian lens. Foreign relations should be based on multiple mutual interests instead of focusing on only one point. We can be good friends with one country which is good with our perceived enemy and this is the case world over.

Take an example of Iran who is friends with India who is friends with Israel while Iran has a shear animosity towards Israel and both engage in proxy wars. However you won't find Iran to be asking India to leave Israel and you won't find Israel saying the same to India about Iran.

This Indian-centric foreign policy has only hurt us and it has done nothing against India. We need to fight our case on our own without asking others to take a side.